To ask an obvious question

What do readers think this is? A prank? Spy station? WWV gone feral?

cheers Peter

"dxAce" wrote in message
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This via the WUN Listserver and was posted this morning:

For those who are interested:

The "Sam" Pirate that was so popular last month is now on 5 Mhz.

Can be heard in Southern AZ faintly on top of WWV.


JC
So. AZ
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I wonder if he'll be starting up on other frequencies as well?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

peter berrett wrote:

To ask an obvious question

What do readers think this is? A prank? Spy station? WWV gone feral?

The Sam activity observed in December would seem to point to a spy or
some other government operation of some kind. The Sam transmissions were
neatly spaced over four different frequencies audible at different
levels of signal strength at my location, indicating four different
transmitters in four different locations acting together. It is unlikely
that a prankster would go to such trouble. The big question is what it
means, if indeed it's a spy station. It was theorized that it was a "go
signal" for some sort of spy operation. But since it's back at reduced
power (my check of 5 and 10 Mhz at 0100 showed nothing unusual) that
would not seem to be the case.


cheers Peter

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
This via the WUN Listserver and was posted this morning:

For those who are interested:

The "Sam" Pirate that was so popular last month is now on 5 Mhz.

Can be heard in Southern AZ faintly on top of WWV.


JC
So. AZ
==========================================

I wonder if he'll be starting up on other frequencies as well?

dxAce
Michigan
USA






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running dogg wrote:

The Sam transmissions were
neatly spaced over four different frequencies audible at different
levels of signal strength at my location, indicating four different
transmitters in four different locations acting together.

I don't think you can draw that conclusion, since at any given time,
different frequencies are going to have different propogation (and
noise) characteristics.

However, I agree with your conclusion that it wasn't some prank simply
because of the precise timing of the signals and the apparant data
burst at the start.


--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

I, too am hearing Sam on 5 MHZ with a strong signal in North Texas.
This is almost certainly a covert "go" signal from our government.
Could be an exercize (most likely).
It's on WWV at 5 mHz because that provides a "BFO" for cheap SW
receivers. I will note the times I hear him.
Please note those you hear.

Loud 3:22:50 Z
Loud 3:23:35 Z
Weak 3:24:05 Z

Like that.
Let's see if we can do a little snooping of our own.

David Stinson wrote:

I, too am hearing Sam on 5 MHZ with a strong signal in North Texas.
This is almost certainly a covert "go" signal from our government.
Could be an exercize (most likely).
It's on WWV at 5 mHz because that provides a "BFO" for cheap SW
receivers.

Assuming 'they' is Uncle Sam, I wonder if they got approval from the
NIST or ITU to interfere with WWV? Probably not.

starman wrote:

David Stinson wrote:

I, too am hearing Sam on 5 MHZ with a strong signal in North Texas.
This is almost certainly a covert "go" signal from our government.
Could be an exercize (most likely).
It's on WWV at 5 mHz because that provides a "BFO" for cheap SW
receivers.

Assuming 'they' is Uncle Sam, I wonder if they got approval from the
NIST or ITU to interfere with WWV? Probably not.

'Uncle Sam' needs no approval.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

starman wrote:

Assuming 'they' is Uncle Sam, I wonder if they got approval from the
NIST or ITU to interfere with WWV?

Not likely.
Assuming this is Uncle, only those with a "need to know" will
know what's going on, and they will know only the fragment of
information needed to do their "part."
The FCC will have gotten the word from the DOD or
(if Los Alamos or Sandia Labs are involved) the DOE
to ignore any complaints and ask no questions.
NIST can gripe but it will go nowhere; there is
no "need" for them to know why the operations are
temporarily messing with them, so they won't be
told anything.

David Stinson wrote:

I, too am hearing Sam on 5 MHZ with a strong signal in North Texas.
This is almost certainly a covert "go" signal from our government.
Could be an exercize (most likely).
It's on WWV at 5 mHz because that provides a "BFO" for cheap SW
receivers. I will note the times I hear him.
Please note those you hear.

But then why did YS operate on all the other frequencies where a supposed "BFO"
would not be provided in his first incarnation?

I somehow doubt that it's a "go" signal at all.

I for one will be checking the commodity markets this coming week to see what
tin foil is going for. It may be time to invest!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"David Stinson" wrote in message
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This is almost certainly a covert "go" signal from our government.
Could be an exercize (most likely).

Looks like you think it's telling you to "go" smoke some more rock
cocaine.

Please stick to providing your signal reports, and stop your incredibly
dumb speculation.

It's on WWV at 5 mHz because that provides a "BFO" for cheap SW
receivers.
..

Sam in North Texas, 5 mHz

This pattern:

moderate 3:25:25
Loud 3:26:10
weak 3:27:25
weak 3:28:10
Loud 3:28:50
Loud 3:29:25
moderate 3:30:10

was followed by this pattern:
3:32:08 weak
3:32:48 weak
3:33:28 weak
3:34:08 weak
3:35:28 weak
3:36:08 loud
3:36:48 weak

Sam seems to have stopped at this time,
at least in North Texas.
The pattern likely carries some intelligence in itself.

More like "Uncle Sam," if you ask me.

D.S.