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There was a Japanese company that made a smaller version
of the Collins Mechanical fitler and I htink it looked like your
discription. Poptronics ran an article int he mid 1960s about
how to add one to your existing SW receiver. I
Terry

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Old March 11th 05, 09:07 PM
Pete KE9OA
 
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Those filters were pretty awful................I don't remember the name of
the company name, but it started with the letter K.
They were used in the NRD-515 and in the Yaesu FRDX-400. They were filled
with some sort of foam substance that turns to a sticky jelly after many
years, causing the insertion loss of the filter to degrade. Peter Bertini
had an article in Popular Communications a few years ago on how to repair
them. I did just that for a friend's FRDX-400. You have to dismantle the
filter and clean out all of the goo with alcohol..........I used a product
called Flux-Off.
Afterwards, you have to replace the foam damping material. I used air
conditioner foam strip. Another thing about those filters....there is no
other mechanical support for the filter elements themselves. When you remove
the goo, you have the filter structure hanging by a few strands of Litz
wire. For years, I was looking for an NRD-515 until I discovered those
filter problems. I have never seen a Collins mechanical filter fail in that
manner, and I have had quite a few of those filters over the years. If any
of you ever have the problem with your JRC radios that use that filter, I
can give you advice on how to repair them.....................if you don't
feel comfortable repairing them yourself, I can repair them for you.
I did have one of those 2515 in for repair a couple of years ago, and the
unit that I repaired did not have any mechanical filters even though the
advertising hype stated that it did. It was definitely one of those slightly
oblong I.F. transformers that had the ceramic filter inside the same
structure.
For a cheap receiver, they weren't bad.
Anybody remember the transceiver that matched this unit in style? A friend
once told me that it was a Kenwood TS-510 with Allied's label.

Pete

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There was a Japanese company that made a smaller version
of the Collins Mechanical fitler and I htink it looked like your
discription. Poptronics ran an article int he mid 1960s about
how to add one to your existing SW receiver. I
Terry



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Old March 11th 05, 10:31 PM
 
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There is no excuse for a penny pinching move like that in an expensive
radio. My opinion of Japan Radio just went down a couple of notches.


Pete KE9OA wrote:
Those filters were pretty awful................I don't remember the

name of
the company name, but it started with the letter K.
They were used in the NRD-515 and in the Yaesu FRDX-400. They were

filled
with some sort of foam substance that turns to a sticky jelly after

many
years, causing the insertion loss of the filter to degrade. Peter

Bertini
had an article in Popular Communications a few years ago on how to

repair
them. I did just that for a friend's FRDX-400. You have to dismantle

the
filter and clean out all of the goo with alcohol..........I used a

product
called Flux-Off.
Afterwards, you have to replace the foam damping material. I used air


conditioner foam strip. Another thing about those filters....there is

no
other mechanical support for the filter elements themselves. When you

remove
the goo, you have the filter structure hanging by a few strands of

Litz
wire. For years, I was looking for an NRD-515 until I discovered

those
filter problems. I have never seen a Collins mechanical filter fail

in that
manner, and I have had quite a few of those filters over the years.

If any
of you ever have the problem with your JRC radios that use that

filter, I
can give you advice on how to repair them.....................if you

don't
feel comfortable repairing them yourself, I can repair them for you.
I did have one of those 2515 in for repair a couple of years ago, and

the
unit that I repaired did not have any mechanical filters even though

the
advertising hype stated that it did. It was definitely one of those

slightly
oblong I.F. transformers that had the ceramic filter inside the same
structure.
For a cheap receiver, they weren't bad.
Anybody remember the transceiver that matched this unit in style? A

friend
once told me that it was a Kenwood TS-510 with Allied's label.

Pete

wrote in message
ups.com...
There was a Japanese company that made a smaller version
of the Collins Mechanical fitler and I htink it looked like your
discription. Poptronics ran an article int he mid 1960s about
how to add one to your existing SW receiver. I
Terry


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Old March 12th 05, 01:48 AM
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In article . com,
says...
There is no excuse for a penny pinching move like that in an expensive
radio. My opinion of Japan Radio just went down a couple of notches.


Pete KE9OA wrote:
Those filters were pretty awful................I don't remember the

name of
the company name, but it started with the letter K.
They were used in the NRD-515 and in the Yaesu FRDX-400. They were

filled
with some sort of foam substance that turns to a sticky jelly after

many
years, causing the insertion loss of the filter to degrade. Peter

Bertini
had an article in Popular Communications a few years ago on how to

repair
them. I did just that for a friend's FRDX-400. You have to dismantle

the
filter and clean out all of the goo with alcohol..........I used a

product
called Flux-Off.
Afterwards, you have to replace the foam damping material. I used air


conditioner foam strip. Another thing about those filters....there is

no
other mechanical support for the filter elements themselves. When you

remove
the goo, you have the filter structure hanging by a few strands of

Litz
wire. For years, I was looking for an NRD-515 until I discovered

those
filter problems. I have never seen a Collins mechanical filter fail

in that
manner, and I have had quite a few of those filters over the years.

If any
of you ever have the problem with your JRC radios that use that

filter, I
can give you advice on how to repair them.....................if you

don't
feel comfortable repairing them yourself, I can repair them for you.
I did have one of those 2515 in for repair a couple of years ago, and

the
unit that I repaired did not have any mechanical filters even though

the
advertising hype stated that it did. It was definitely one of those

slightly
oblong I.F. transformers that had the ceramic filter inside the same
structure.
For a cheap receiver, they weren't bad.
Anybody remember the transceiver that matched this unit in style? A

friend
once told me that it was a Kenwood TS-510 with Allied's label.

Pete

wrote in message
ups.com...
There was a Japanese company that made a smaller version
of the Collins Mechanical fitler and I htink it looked like your
discription. Poptronics ran an article int he mid 1960s about
how to add one to your existing SW receiver. I
Terry





Hmm, never heard this before about the 515 filters. My almost 25 year
old 515 works great, just needs a little alignment in the PBT circuit.
A friend's 20 year old one is fine and dandy too..

BDK
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Hmm, never heard this before about the 515 filters. My almost 25 year
old 515 works great, just needs a little alignment in the PBT circuit.
A friend's 20 year old one is fine and dandy too..

BDK


You will be able to recognize if it happens if you start experiencing
reduced sensitivity in the SSB modes. Not a big deal to clean and repack the
filters. About an hour and a half for both the LSB and USB filters.

Pete




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Old March 12th 05, 05:21 AM
Pete KE9OA
 
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Hmm, never heard this before about the 515 filters. My almost 25 year
old 515 works great, just needs a little alignment in the PBT circuit.
A friend's 20 year old one is fine and dandy too..

BDK


Come to think of it...........I wonder if it depends on the user
environment..........I just don't know.

Pete


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Old March 12th 05, 05:18 AM
Pete KE9OA
 
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The radio itself was pretty good.................I knew a fellow back in
Iowa that had Collins filters installed and he was pretty happy with the
result. I was going to match the impedance of the new filters to the '515
but I lost track of him. It is still my favorite of the JRCs.

wrote in message
ups.com...
There is no excuse for a penny pinching move like that in an expensive
radio. My opinion of Japan Radio just went down a couple of notches.


Pete KE9OA wrote:
Those filters were pretty awful................I don't remember the

name of
the company name, but it started with the letter K.
They were used in the NRD-515 and in the Yaesu FRDX-400. They were

filled
with some sort of foam substance that turns to a sticky jelly after

many
years, causing the insertion loss of the filter to degrade. Peter

Bertini
had an article in Popular Communications a few years ago on how to

repair
them. I did just that for a friend's FRDX-400. You have to dismantle

the
filter and clean out all of the goo with alcohol..........I used a

product
called Flux-Off.
Afterwards, you have to replace the foam damping material. I used air


conditioner foam strip. Another thing about those filters....there is

no
other mechanical support for the filter elements themselves. When you

remove
the goo, you have the filter structure hanging by a few strands of

Litz
wire. For years, I was looking for an NRD-515 until I discovered

those
filter problems. I have never seen a Collins mechanical filter fail

in that
manner, and I have had quite a few of those filters over the years.

If any
of you ever have the problem with your JRC radios that use that

filter, I
can give you advice on how to repair them.....................if you

don't
feel comfortable repairing them yourself, I can repair them for you.
I did have one of those 2515 in for repair a couple of years ago, and

the
unit that I repaired did not have any mechanical filters even though

the
advertising hype stated that it did. It was definitely one of those

slightly
oblong I.F. transformers that had the ceramic filter inside the same
structure.
For a cheap receiver, they weren't bad.
Anybody remember the transceiver that matched this unit in style? A

friend
once told me that it was a Kenwood TS-510 with Allied's label.

Pete

wrote in message
ups.com...
There was a Japanese company that made a smaller version
of the Collins Mechanical fitler and I htink it looked like your
discription. Poptronics ran an article int he mid 1960s about
how to add one to your existing SW receiver. I
Terry




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Old March 12th 05, 03:56 AM
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"Pete KE9OA" ) writes:
Those filters were pretty awful................I don't remember the name of
the company name, but it started with the letter K.
They were used in the NRD-515 and in the Yaesu FRDX-400. They were filled
with some sort of foam substance that turns to a sticky jelly after many
years, causing the insertion loss of the filter to degrade. Peter Bertini
had an article in Popular Communications a few years ago on how to repair
them. I did just that for a friend's FRDX-400. You have to dismantle the
filter and clean out all of the goo with alcohol..........I used a product
called Flux-Off.


Of course, one pays quite a bit for Collins mechanical filters, and
that's always been the case. Those Japanese mechanical filters were
significantly cheaper, at least back then. Reading the old magazines,
I've sometimes wondered if at least some times people were calling
ceramic filters the wrong thing.

Your description of the insides reminds me that some guy wrote about
a homebrew receiver in the early sixties, I think it was in CQ, and
he made his own mechanical filter. No, I don't have it handy and
can't specify the issue, but every so often I come across the article,
and wonder how practical it was to do. It seems like we'd have
read more about doing it if it was something easily doable.

Michael



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