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Old April 25th 05, 08:14 AM
 
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Yep,,that is WOWO 1190 Fort Wayne's News,Talk and Weather I was
listening to,Depend on it! the guy in WOWO land said.Fort Wayne is 666
miles North of Jackson,according to www.indo.com/distance I am fixin
to watch Escape From New York movie on telebision now and read some news
updates on the telebision internet.
cuhulin

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Old April 25th 05, 04:07 AM
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On 24 Apr 2005 18:36:25 -0700, "wavetrapper" wrote:


Ron,

You are hearing the broadcasting disaster known as IBOC...brought to
you by Ibiquity. There are about 70 stations now running IBOC. This
creates a digital signal for the "wonderful" HD radio that no one
wants. It wipes out the adjacent channels on both sides.

The FCC is a big fan of IBOC and approved it last year (so we can have
higher quality sounding signals on AM). So far, daytime only (except
for tests). I can't imagine what it will be like when it gets approved
for night use on MW.

You can kiss at least +/- 10 khz goodbye for any station running IBOC.

Let's hope the marketplace votes "no" on this and IBOC dies a swift
death.

Russ

I thought AM IBOC sounded more like a vaccum cleaner.

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Old April 25th 05, 11:54 AM
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David wrote:
I thought AM IBOC sounded more like a vaccum cleaner.


Right, it's not IBOC (and it's not power supply noise). It's actual
low frequency modulation on 1190, complementary in each sideband
(so you don't hear it unless you're receiving one sideband only).

I'd doubt you could hear it at night since there are so many other
stations competing for the frequency, unless you're really close.

Whether it's WOWO or not I can't say, but it seems to be most likely,
since it's the only 1190 station really in competition for Central
Ohio in the daytime.

WFAN 660 had the same sort of thing for a couple of months last winter,
only it was a phase modulation introduced by their broken power supply,
inaudible unless you were hearing only one sideband.

This sounds more like a low bandwidth digital subcarrier.

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Old April 25th 05, 12:25 PM
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Ok. There was a lot of discussion on some MW boards about the WOWO
IBOC this past week. Assumed it was IBOC going through some
adjustments there.

I have heard is described differently in terms of what it sounds like.
I have listened to some clips and it is hard to describe.

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Old April 25th 05, 04:37 PM
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Ron Hardin wrote:

David wrote:
I thought AM IBOC sounded more like a vaccum cleaner.


Right, it's not IBOC (and it's not power supply noise). It's actual
low frequency modulation on 1190, complementary in each sideband
(so you don't hear it unless you're receiving one sideband only).

I'd doubt you could hear it at night since there are so many other
stations competing for the frequency, unless you're really close.

Whether it's WOWO or not I can't say, but it seems to be most likely,
since it's the only 1190 station really in competition for Central
Ohio in the daytime.

WFAN 660 had the same sort of thing for a couple of months last winter,
only it was a phase modulation introduced by their broken power supply,
inaudible unless you were hearing only one sideband.

This sounds more like a low bandwidth digital subcarrier.


I take it back. It's an on-frequency artifact of IBOC after all.
WCOL 1230 Columbus (or whatever they're calling it now) has the same
deal, a diesel engine idling sound when received either LSB only or USB only
but no sound when both sidebands are received. It has IBOC, and in fact I
spend a fair amount of time nulling its splatter into 1240 away to hear
Zanesville Ohio. That 10 kHz off-channel splatter is the obvious component
of IBOC. I hadn't noticed this on-channel artifact before.

So it's a way to tell who is the IBOC splatter source : who has the diesel engine
sound when received LSB (or USB) only.
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Zanesville,Ohio.Isn't that were they can go to the bridge and turn
right?
cuhulin

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Old April 25th 05, 04:30 PM
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:07:06 GMT, David wrote:

I thought AM IBOC sounded more like a vaccum cleaner.


Are you suggesting it sucks?

Rich

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Old April 25th 05, 07:05 PM
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:30:15 -0400, Rich Wood
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:07:06 GMT, David wrote:

I thought AM IBOC sounded more like a vaccum cleaner.


Are you suggesting it sucks?

Rich

I'm a Leonard Kahn fan.

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