"David" wrote in message
...
They will track you like a common criminal.

''The Real ID Act says federally accepted ID cards must be "machine
readable," and lets Homeland Security determine the details. That
could end up being a magnetic strip, enhanced bar code, or radio
frequency identification (RFID) chips.

DON'T SWEAT THIS !

It is VERY EASY to defeat ANY type of RFID or embedded chip in an ID card.

All you have 2 do is put it in a microwave oven
on a flat dish and run it on HIGH POWER
for 12 seconds ---- DONE ! -- Bada-Bing !

The card and photo will still be intact but any/all chips which are
embedded
in the same will be 100% NON FUNCTIONAL.

This works with ANY type of so-called Smart Card as well
as any RFID chips or strips which may be embedded in
consumer products as well.

While your at it, if your car has OnStar or similar have this
disabled and/or ripped out asap. Visited a friend who is a
PD Officer and he showed me with a few keystrokes how
cars with OnStar can be tracked in real time via the cellular
telephone networks. Onstar is a TRANSPONDER which
broadcasts the VIN and a GPS coordinate for any 2000 and
newer car which is so equipped therin.

UNPLUG the 12 Volts or GET ONSTAR OUT OF YOUR CAR.
It is a real and present privacy threat.

On Mon, 9 May 2005 11:34:04 -0400, "Tazerman 60"
wrote:


While your at it, if your car has OnStar or similar have this
disabled and/or ripped out asap. Visited a friend who is a
PD Officer and he showed me with a few keystrokes how
cars with OnStar can be tracked in real time via the cellular
telephone networks. Onstar is a TRANSPONDER which
broadcasts the VIN and a GPS coordinate for any 2000 and
newer car which is so equipped therin.

UNPLUG the 12 Volts or GET ONSTAR OUT OF YOUR CAR.
It is a real and present privacy threat.

I like having GPS on my phone, in case I have to call 911 for a heart
attack. When I visit my crack dealer, I shut it off a few blocks
away.

David wrote:

On Mon, 9 May 2005 11:34:04 -0400, "Tazerman 60"
wrote:

While your at it, if your car has OnStar or similar have this
disabled and/or ripped out asap. Visited a friend who is a
PD Officer and he showed me with a few keystrokes how
cars with OnStar can be tracked in real time via the cellular
telephone networks. Onstar is a TRANSPONDER which
broadcasts the VIN and a GPS coordinate for any 2000 and
newer car which is so equipped therin.

UNPLUG the 12 Volts or GET ONSTAR OUT OF YOUR CAR.
It is a real and present privacy threat.

I like having GPS on my phone, in case I have to call 911 for a heart
attack. When I visit my crack dealer, I shut it off a few blocks
away.

Crack? I figured as much, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Anyone in denial of the invasiveness of this technology, is a blind
and bumbling fool.

Darren

http://hometown.aol.com/darren1965co...e/profile.html

On Tue, 10 May 2005 00:37:44 GMT, Conan Ford
wrote:

RFID chips have a range of, at best, a few feet. While Big Brother could
install readers in every doorway of every public place and track everyone
reading The Communist Manifesto in the first place, if you're paranoid you
should realize that if you work in an office an have an access card, you
probably already carry an RFID chip.
You aren't required to carry your parking garage card everywhere you
go.

Big Brother is very real. And he is watching you.

David wrote:

On Tue, 10 May 2005 00:37:44 GMT, Conan Ford
wrote:

RFID chips have a range of, at best, a few feet. While Big Brother could
install readers in every doorway of every public place and track everyone
reading The Communist Manifesto in the first place, if you're paranoid you
should realize that if you work in an office an have an access card, you
probably already carry an RFID chip.
You aren't required to carry your parking garage card everywhere you
go.

Big Brother is very real. And he is watching you.

No, he's watching you... 'tard boy. Guaranteed.

Got your number.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

David wrote:
They will track you like a common criminal.

''The Real ID Act says federally accepted ID cards must be "machine
readable," and lets Homeland Security determine the details. That
could end up being a magnetic strip, enhanced bar code, or radio
frequency identification (RFID) chips.

In the past, Homeland Security has indicated it likes the concept of
RFID chips. The State Department is already going to be embedding
RFID
devices in passports, and Homeland Security wants to issue
RFID-outfitted IDs to foreign visitors who enter the country at the
Mexican and Canadian borders. The agency plans to start a yearlong
test of the technology in July at checkpoints in Arizona, New York
and
Washington state.''


http://news.com.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+...3-5697111.html

Big deal! I've been carrying one since 2003. All active DOD personnel
both military and civilians carry one. I'm sure the rest of the Federal
Government use them also.

Les Locklear
Monitoring since ' 57
Located on the Gulf of Mexico
Bendix R-1015B/URR
Hammarlund R-274C/FRR (SP-600JX-14)
Ten Tec RX-340
RF Systems MLB - MK2
Quantum QX Loop
CU-2279/BRC Multicoupler
http://www.hammarlund.info/homepage.html

"-=jd=-" wrote in message
. 21...

Good gravy! Count up all the pieces of ID that you have. A partial list
of
mine includes, but is not limited to: DOD-CAC card, driver license, pass-
port, soc-sec card, medical insurance card, corp ID, credit card, library
card, membership cards, etc... The only negative impact I can see is that
it will make it harder to lie about who you are until you figure out how
to
compromise the format...

-=jd=-


jd,

Count up all the ID you had when you turned 16 (or 18 or whatever) and went
to get your drivers license. Most people have MAYBE 2 pieces (birth and
baptismal certificate), a large percentage have only a birth certificate.

The problem with RID is that you will have to somehow magically come up with
four pieces of ID in order to get the first one.

To obtain a passport generally requires birth certificate and drivers
license, at the very least. So you won't have that to show to get your
drivers license. Social Security cards are not accepted as ID. Nor are
library cards. In some cases, student ID cards have been accepted as ID to
get a drivers license, but not in most states, and RID is pretty much
putting the nix on using anything like that as ID to obtain a DL. Most don't
have DOD cards, and minors don't have medical insurance cards, corporate ID,
membership or credit cards. Most of those are not acceptable even now as
legitimate ID for obtaining a DL.

They're opening up a can of worms that I'm sure will incur the wrath of all
50 states (especially given that the states will now have to use the
additional time and manpower to verify each of those four pieces of ID for
each person applying for a new or renewal D/L). Not to mention I'm sure the
ACLU will plunge headlong into the fray.

Have any of these chicken littles actually bother to figure out how
much information these paranoiac schemes will generate? They will
need to construct an entire internet just dedicated to the polling and
registering of incoming data. Any attempt at using the current
systems will grind them to a halt with all that traffic. This will be
a Herculean feat for the forseable future. Let alone the storage of
the data.

D. Martin wrote:

Anyone in denial of the invasiveness of this technology, is a blind
and bumbling fool.

Darren

http://hometown.aol.com/darren1965co...e/profile.html

You are one scary looking dude with some scary looking ideas.