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Old June 5th 05, 08:36 PM
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USA has a staunch ally in the dictator of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov. Like
Saddam, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Samoza, and many others, Karimov
sponsors torture and massacres of his own people. He has succeeded in
pushing the traditional Sufi version of Islam toward fundamentalism. 1,000
unarmed were killed on 13 May 2005. We'll hear alot more about this
country in the future, unless a better understanding of how anger at a
brutal regime propped up by a foreign power can fertilise overseas violence
and terror. Can't understand how this simple lesson is not learned.
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Old June 5th 05, 08:47 PM
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uncle arnie wrote:
USA has a staunch ally in the dictator of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov. Like
Saddam, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Samoza, and many others, Karimov
sponsors torture and massacres of his own people. He has succeeded in
pushing the traditional Sufi version of Islam toward fundamentalism. 1,000
unarmed were killed on 13 May 2005. We'll hear alot more about this
country in the future, unless a better understanding of how anger at a
brutal regime propped up by a foreign power can fertilise overseas violence
and terror. Can't understand how this simple lesson is not learned.



A couple months ago, long before the recent mass murder, Economists
Magazine nominated him the second worst dictator in the world. Second
only to Kim Jong Il in NK.

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Old June 6th 05, 10:02 PM
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In article , Al Dykes wrote:
In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:
USA has a staunch ally in the dictator of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov. Like
Saddam, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Samoza, and many others, Karimov
sponsors torture and massacres of his own people. He has succeeded in
pushing the traditional Sufi version of Islam toward fundamentalism. 1,000
unarmed were killed on 13 May 2005. We'll hear alot more about this
country in the future, unless a better understanding of how anger at a
brutal regime propped up by a foreign power can fertilise overseas violence
and terror. Can't understand how this simple lesson is not learned.



A couple months ago, long before the recent mass murder, Economists
Magazine nominated him the second worst dictator in the world. Second
only to Kim Jong Il in NK.


That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

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Old June 7th 05, 06:43 PM
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In article ,
Mark Zenier wrote:
In article , Al Dykes wrote:
In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:
USA has a staunch ally in the dictator of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov. Like
Saddam, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Samoza, and many others, Karimov
sponsors torture and massacres of his own people. He has succeeded in
pushing the traditional Sufi version of Islam toward fundamentalism. 1,000
unarmed were killed on 13 May 2005. We'll hear alot more about this
country in the future, unless a better understanding of how anger at a
brutal regime propped up by a foreign power can fertilise overseas violence
and terror. Can't understand how this simple lesson is not learned.



A couple months ago, long before the recent mass murder, Economists
Magazine nominated him the second worst dictator in the world. Second
only to Kim Jong Il in NK.


That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident



You are right, of course. I just confirmed it in someting I wrote
right after I read the issue. Thanks.

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Old June 7th 05, 07:02 PM
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Al Dykes wrote:

In article ,
Mark Zenier wrote:
In article , Al Dykes wrote:
In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:
USA has a staunch ally in the dictator of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov. Like
Saddam, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Samoza, and many others, Karimov
sponsors torture and massacres of his own people. He has succeeded in
pushing the traditional Sufi version of Islam toward fundamentalism. 1,000
unarmed were killed on 13 May 2005. We'll hear alot more about this
country in the future, unless a better understanding of how anger at a
brutal regime propped up by a foreign power can fertilise overseas violence
and terror. Can't understand how this simple lesson is not learned.


A couple months ago, long before the recent mass murder, Economists
Magazine nominated him the second worst dictator in the world. Second
only to Kim Jong Il in NK.


That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


You are right, of course. I just confirmed it in someting I wrote
right after I read the issue. Thanks.


Al is often wrong... best to ignore him!

His mission after all is simply to rant and bitch about Bush and/or the USA,
whether he has the facts behind him or not.

Go tote it Al.

dxAce
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dxAce wrote:

Al Dykes wrote:

In article ,
Mark Zenier wrote:
In article , Al Dykes wrote:
In article ,
uncle arnie wrote:
USA has a staunch ally in the dictator of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov. Like
Saddam, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Samoza, and many others, Karimov
sponsors torture and massacres of his own people. He has succeeded in
pushing the traditional Sufi version of Islam toward fundamentalism. 1,000
unarmed were killed on 13 May 2005. We'll hear alot more about this
country in the future, unless a better understanding of how anger at a
brutal regime propped up by a foreign power can fertilise overseas violence
and terror. Can't understand how this simple lesson is not learned.


A couple months ago, long before the recent mass murder, Economists
Magazine nominated him the second worst dictator in the world. Second
only to Kim Jong Il in NK.

That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


You are right, of course. I just confirmed it in someting I wrote
right after I read the issue. Thanks.


Al is often wrong... best to ignore him!

His mission after all is simply to rant and bitch about Bush and/or the USA,
whether he has the facts behind him or not.


Damn.. I forgot to toss in the fact that he's a Liberal 'tard!

Go tote it Al.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old June 9th 05, 04:27 AM
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Mark Zenier wrote:



That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.


We used to call the Latin American dictatorships "banana republics". We
need a term for the Asian variety. Suggestions?
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Old June 9th 05, 04:48 AM
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uncle arnie wrote:

Mark Zenier wrote:


That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.


We used to call the Latin American dictatorships "banana republics". We
need a term for the Asian variety. Suggestions?


Canuckystan1, Canuckystan2, Canuckystan3... etc.

Wake up 'tard... you are already in a 'banana republic' and have been for years.

dxAce
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Old June 9th 05, 05:27 AM
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uncle arnie wrote:

Mark Zenier wrote:



That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.


We used to call the Latin American dictatorships "banana republics". We
need a term for the Asian variety. Suggestions?


Rice republics? (In the US, souped up Japanese racing cars are called
"rice rockets".) But "Asia" is a big place, stretching from Turkey to
Oman to Japan. When that is considered, rice doesn't really fit. Maybe
the Muslim variety (most of the places we're talking about have Muslim
populations) could be called halal republics, halal being the Muslim
equivalent of the Jews' kosher. Any other ideas?


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Old June 10th 05, 05:41 PM
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In article ,
running dogg wrote:
uncle arnie wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:
That's probably Turkmenistan, not Uzbekistan. It's getting to the
point where you can't tell those central asian dictatorships apart.


We used to call the Latin American dictatorships "banana republics". We
need a term for the Asian variety. Suggestions?


Rice republics? (In the US, souped up Japanese racing cars are called
"rice rockets".) But "Asia" is a big place, stretching from Turkey to
Oman to Japan. When that is considered, rice doesn't really fit. Maybe
the Muslim variety (most of the places we're talking about have Muslim
populations) could be called halal republics, halal being the Muslim
equivalent of the Jews' kosher. Any other ideas?


Bananistans. ;-)

(Although it doesn't make that much sense, as the crop
that makes the economy in most of those places is cotton.)

Mark Zenier Washington State resident



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