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Old June 16th 05, 04:27 AM
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Michael wrote:
I tend to do all of my
DX'ing in ssb mode using ECSS tuning.


With the R-75, you really have no choice, do you?


Yes, you do have a choice to use it in AM mode... I'd use ecss for
DX'ing with any rig.

The R-75 is King for this.


Over what? All high end receivers are stable and do ECSS mode
extremely well.


Without benifit of a dual PBT. Only Icom has that. I've been using
the R-75 long enough to say that it is a tremendously benificial
feature for DX'ing extreamly weak signals.

Most (but not the Icom) also do AM sync very well.


AM sync ??? I thought we were talking about "real" DX'ing. How did
we get on program listening ??? Oh... OK, I get it...You just feel
like bashing the R-75 because you shelled out a chunk of money for a
rig that isnt as capable. No AM sync... I mean NO AM sync is ANY help
with very weak signals. AM sync comes in handy for program listneing
on signals with moderate fade. Not with "real" DX'ing. Not that it
has do with DX'ing but my R-75 has the Kiwa modded AM sync. It works
just fine for program listening and sounds great. Along with being a
good rig for program listening, it is better for DX'ing then any rig
out there under $2,000.


Horse sh*t. You just keep telling yourself it's better than the higher
price rigs. It's not. My JRC has over 500 bandwidth settings, a great sync
detector and better stability for manual ECSS. We all hear the same
signals you do, Michael. All our receivers are rock stable. We can all do
ECSS extremely well and we didn't need any mods! Some of these radios have
features you haven't experienced.

The R-75 is a nice radio - for the price. Why pretend it's something it
isn't?
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Old June 16th 05, 04:35 AM
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Michael wrote:
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Michael wrote:
I tend to do all of my
DX'ing in ssb mode using ECSS tuning.

With the R-75, you really have no choice, do you?


Yes, you do have a choice to use it in AM mode... I'd use ecss for
DX'ing with any rig.

The R-75 is King for this.

Over what? All high end receivers are stable and do ECSS mode
extremely well.


Without benifit of a dual PBT. Only Icom has that. I've been using
the R-75 long enough to say that it is a tremendously benificial
feature for DX'ing extreamly weak signals.

Most (but not the Icom) also do AM sync very well.


AM sync ??? I thought we were talking about "real" DX'ing. How did
we get on program listening ??? Oh... OK, I get it...You just feel
like bashing the R-75 because you shelled out a chunk of money for a
rig that isnt as capable. No AM sync... I mean NO AM sync is ANY help
with very weak signals. AM sync comes in handy for program listneing
on signals with moderate fade. Not with "real" DX'ing. Not that it
has do with DX'ing but my R-75 has the Kiwa modded AM sync. It works
just fine for program listening and sounds great. Along with being a
good rig for program listening, it is better for DX'ing then any rig
out there under $2,000.


Horse sh*t. You just keep telling yourself it's better than the higher
price rigs. It's not. My JRC has over 500 bandwidth settings, a great

sync
detector and better stability for manual ECSS. We all hear the same
signals you do, Michael. All our receivers are rock stable. We can all

do
ECSS extremely well and we didn't need any mods! Some of these radios

have
features you haven't experienced.

The R-75 is a nice radio - for the price. Why pretend it's something it
isn't?


When you say your JRC are you talking about the NRD-545 DSP or a different
model?


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Old June 16th 05, 04:56 AM
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"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
I tend to do all of my
DX'ing in ssb mode using ECSS tuning.

With the R-75, you really have no choice, do you?


Yes, you do have a choice to use it in AM mode... I'd use ecss for
DX'ing with any rig.

The R-75 is King for this.

Over what? All high end receivers are stable and do ECSS mode
extremely well.


Without benifit of a dual PBT. Only Icom has that. I've been using
the R-75 long enough to say that it is a tremendously benificial
feature for DX'ing extreamly weak signals.

Most (but not the Icom) also do AM sync very well.


AM sync ??? I thought we were talking about "real" DX'ing. How did
we get on program listening ??? Oh... OK, I get it...You just feel
like bashing the R-75 because you shelled out a chunk of money for a
rig that isnt as capable. No AM sync... I mean NO AM sync is ANY help
with very weak signals. AM sync comes in handy for program listneing
on signals with moderate fade. Not with "real" DX'ing. Not that it
has do with DX'ing but my R-75 has the Kiwa modded AM sync. It works
just fine for program listening and sounds great. Along with being a
good rig for program listening, it is better for DX'ing then any rig
out there under $2,000.


Horse sh*t. You just keep telling yourself it's better than the higher
price rigs. It's not. My JRC has over 500 bandwidth settings, a great
sync detector and better stability for manual ECSS. We all hear the same
signals you do, Michael. All our receivers are rock stable. We can all
do ECSS extremely well and we didn't need any mods! Some of these radios
have features you haven't experienced.


If you are talking about the NRD-545. I've used this rig. It is over priced
BIG TIME. Sure, it is a nice looking radio and it is built rock solid. I
also found it to be tinny sounding. I'd go so far as to say the audio
quality sux !!! I had to use it through my PC speakers and work my software
mixer to get it to sound tolerable for program listening. What does that
radio sell for ??? $1,800.00 ??? I'd rather use my R-75 for program
listening over the NRD-545 because the 545 sounds so tinny and hollow.

If you want to spend more money and get a more capable rig then the R-75 ,
the NRD-545 is NOT the answer. I'd say go with the Icom 746 pro. Less money
then the NRD-545 at $1,500 and more capable.

Michael


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Old June 16th 05, 05:10 AM
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I assume you are listening to your R-75 with an external speaker, as the
stock speaker sound is equivelant to the sound of a cheap transistor radio.
I know, I have one. By the way, I love my R-75 but I can't imagine ANY radio
sounding worse than the R-75 thru the stock speaker...



"Michael" wrote in message
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"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
I tend to do all of my
DX'ing in ssb mode using ECSS tuning.

With the R-75, you really have no choice, do you?

Yes, you do have a choice to use it in AM mode... I'd use ecss for
DX'ing with any rig.

The R-75 is King for this.

Over what? All high end receivers are stable and do ECSS mode
extremely well.

Without benifit of a dual PBT. Only Icom has that. I've been using
the R-75 long enough to say that it is a tremendously benificial
feature for DX'ing extreamly weak signals.

Most (but not the Icom) also do AM sync very well.

AM sync ??? I thought we were talking about "real" DX'ing. How did
we get on program listening ??? Oh... OK, I get it...You just feel
like bashing the R-75 because you shelled out a chunk of money for a
rig that isnt as capable. No AM sync... I mean NO AM sync is ANY help
with very weak signals. AM sync comes in handy for program listneing
on signals with moderate fade. Not with "real" DX'ing. Not that it
has do with DX'ing but my R-75 has the Kiwa modded AM sync. It works
just fine for program listening and sounds great. Along with being a
good rig for program listening, it is better for DX'ing then any rig
out there under $2,000.


Horse sh*t. You just keep telling yourself it's better than the higher
price rigs. It's not. My JRC has over 500 bandwidth settings, a great
sync detector and better stability for manual ECSS. We all hear the

same
signals you do, Michael. All our receivers are rock stable. We can all
do ECSS extremely well and we didn't need any mods! Some of these

radios
have features you haven't experienced.


If you are talking about the NRD-545. I've used this rig. It is over

priced
BIG TIME. Sure, it is a nice looking radio and it is built rock solid. I
also found it to be tinny sounding. I'd go so far as to say the audio
quality sux !!! I had to use it through my PC speakers and work my

software
mixer to get it to sound tolerable for program listening. What does that
radio sell for ??? $1,800.00 ??? I'd rather use my R-75 for program
listening over the NRD-545 because the 545 sounds so tinny and hollow.

If you want to spend more money and get a more capable rig then the R-75 ,
the NRD-545 is NOT the answer. I'd say go with the Icom 746 pro. Less

money
then the NRD-545 at $1,500 and more capable.

Michael




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Old June 16th 05, 05:21 AM
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"Jim Hackett" wrote in message
ink.net...
I assume you are listening to your R-75 with an external speaker, as the
stock speaker sound is equivelant to the sound of a cheap transistor
radio.
I know, I have one. By the way, I love my R-75 but I can't imagine ANY
radio
sounding worse than the R-75 thru the stock speaker...


Yes... I use an external. I have two options set up. I can use it through
my RCA 40-5000 external speaker, or, if the signal really needs to be
dressed up, I pipe it through my PC's sound card. I have a five piece PC
speaker set up with a sub woofer and a full software mixer/eq. I can get
anything to sound good with that. It comes in especially handy on signals
with muffled audio. I can really thin it out with the software eq.

Michael




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"Michael" wrote in message
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"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
I tend to do all of my
DX'ing in ssb mode using ECSS tuning.

With the R-75, you really have no choice, do you?

Yes, you do have a choice to use it in AM mode... I'd use ecss for
DX'ing with any rig.

The R-75 is King for this.

Over what? All high end receivers are stable and do ECSS mode
extremely well.

Without benifit of a dual PBT. Only Icom has that. I've been using
the R-75 long enough to say that it is a tremendously benificial
feature for DX'ing extreamly weak signals.

Most (but not the Icom) also do AM sync very well.

AM sync ??? I thought we were talking about "real" DX'ing. How did
we get on program listening ??? Oh... OK, I get it...You just feel
like bashing the R-75 because you shelled out a chunk of money for a
rig that isnt as capable. No AM sync... I mean NO AM sync is ANY help
with very weak signals. AM sync comes in handy for program listneing
on signals with moderate fade. Not with "real" DX'ing. Not that it
has do with DX'ing but my R-75 has the Kiwa modded AM sync. It works
just fine for program listening and sounds great. Along with being a
good rig for program listening, it is better for DX'ing then any rig
out there under $2,000.


Horse sh*t. You just keep telling yourself it's better than the higher
price rigs. It's not. My JRC has over 500 bandwidth settings, a great
sync detector and better stability for manual ECSS. We all hear the

same
signals you do, Michael. All our receivers are rock stable. We can all
do ECSS extremely well and we didn't need any mods! Some of these

radios
have features you haven't experienced.


If you are talking about the NRD-545. I've used this rig. It is over

priced
BIG TIME. Sure, it is a nice looking radio and it is built rock solid. I
also found it to be tinny sounding. I'd go so far as to say the audio
quality sux !!! I had to use it through my PC speakers and work my

software
mixer to get it to sound tolerable for program listening. What does that
radio sell for ??? $1,800.00 ??? I'd rather use my R-75 for program
listening over the NRD-545 because the 545 sounds so tinny and hollow.

If you want to spend more money and get a more capable rig then the R-75 ,
the NRD-545 is NOT the answer. I'd say go with the Icom 746 pro. Less

money
then the NRD-545 at $1,500 and more capable.


Thanks. I'll take a good look at both the R-75 and the 746 Pro.


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Old June 16th 05, 05:25 AM
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"Michael" wrote in message
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"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
I tend to do all of my
DX'ing in ssb mode using ECSS tuning.

With the R-75, you really have no choice, do you?

Yes, you do have a choice to use it in AM mode... I'd use ecss for
DX'ing with any rig.

The R-75 is King for this.

Over what? All high end receivers are stable and do ECSS mode
extremely well.

Without benifit of a dual PBT. Only Icom has that. I've been using
the R-75 long enough to say that it is a tremendously benificial
feature for DX'ing extreamly weak signals.

Most (but not the Icom) also do AM sync very well.

AM sync ??? I thought we were talking about "real" DX'ing. How did
we get on program listening ??? Oh... OK, I get it...You just feel
like bashing the R-75 because you shelled out a chunk of money for a
rig that isnt as capable. No AM sync... I mean NO AM sync is ANY help
with very weak signals. AM sync comes in handy for program listneing
on signals with moderate fade. Not with "real" DX'ing. Not that it
has do with DX'ing but my R-75 has the Kiwa modded AM sync. It works
just fine for program listening and sounds great. Along with being a
good rig for program listening, it is better for DX'ing then any rig
out there under $2,000.

Horse sh*t. You just keep telling yourself it's better than the higher
price rigs. It's not. My JRC has over 500 bandwidth settings, a great
sync detector and better stability for manual ECSS. We all hear the

same
signals you do, Michael. All our receivers are rock stable. We can
all
do ECSS extremely well and we didn't need any mods! Some of these

radios
have features you haven't experienced.


If you are talking about the NRD-545. I've used this rig. It is over

priced
BIG TIME. Sure, it is a nice looking radio and it is built rock solid.
I
also found it to be tinny sounding. I'd go so far as to say the audio
quality sux !!! I had to use it through my PC speakers and work my

software
mixer to get it to sound tolerable for program listening. What does that
radio sell for ??? $1,800.00 ??? I'd rather use my R-75 for program
listening over the NRD-545 because the 545 sounds so tinny and hollow.

If you want to spend more money and get a more capable rig then the R-75
,
the NRD-545 is NOT the answer. I'd say go with the Icom 746 pro. Less

money
then the NRD-545 at $1,500 and more capable.


Thanks. I'll take a good look at both the R-75 and the 746 Pro.


The 746 Pro is actually a transceiver. You dont have to use it to transmit
of course. I wouldn't recommend using it to transmit either. Serious
problems with the transmitter section. Regardless, as a DX'ing receiver, it
would be a great choice.

Michael


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Thanks. I'll take a good look at both the R-75 and the 746 Pro

I wouldn't bother with the 746 pro unless you are planning to
get a ham ticket...I just don't see much point in spending
money on a transmitter, when that could be saved, or
applied to other receiver features.. Also...A 746pro ain't
exactly cheap...I would think a R-75 costs much less, and
is just as good for SWL purposes. I think the R-75
would be a good choice. You are not going to hear anything
on one, that you couldn't hear on the other...Actually, this
is basically the case between any of the better radios...
Some of the PC win radios , ten tec, etc, are pretty good.
They have lots of features you can diddle with...But...
I sorta prefer a stand alone radio...IE: If I decide to take it
camping, who wants to have to drag along a PC, etc...
I have many decent radios, but for SWL I use my little
IC-706mk2g the most lately...
http://www.icomcanada.com/products/a...2g/706mk2g.htm
But, like the 746, it's a transceiver..But...I'm a ham, so it's
not a waste of money...:/ I like it because it covers LW to UHF,
all modes, in one radio. 30hz to 200 mhz, straight line,
and then covers from 400-470 mhz. So I can listen to HF,
or switch to other stuff like aircraft, police, etc...Has 4 scan modes,

and is a good scanner...Good on MW too...
Most versatile radio I have, hands down.
I could sell everything I have, and keep that one radio, and
survive quite ok. At one point, they were down in the $750
range, but I hear due to the devaluation against the yen, the
prices are back up to about $900 or so...Thats what I paid
for mine in 2001....You can get the HF only R-75 for a good
bit less than that...MK

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Michael wrote:

If you want to spend more money and get a more capable rig then the R-75 ,
the NRD-545 is NOT the answer. I'd say go with the Icom 746 pro. Less money
then the NRD-545 at $1,500 and more capable.

Michael


Heck, for this kind of money he should consider an AR7030+. (I won't
mention the R8B, since it's not available new anymore.)

Steve

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Old June 26th 05, 02:16 AM
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Michael wrote:

If you are talking about the NRD-545. I've used this rig. It is over
priced BIG TIME. Sure, it is a nice looking radio and it is built
rock solid. I also found it to be tinny sounding. I'd go so far as
to say the audio quality sux !!! I had to use it through my PC
speakers and work my software mixer to get it to sound tolerable for
program listening. What does that radio sell for ??? $1,800.00 ??? I'd
rather use my R-75 for program listening over the NRD-545 because
the 545 sounds so tinny and hollow.
If you want to spend more money and get a more capable rig then the
R-75 , the NRD-545 is NOT the answer. I'd say go with the Icom 746
pro. Less money then the NRD-545 at $1,500 and more capable.

Michael


Nope. I was talking about the NRD-535Db. It cost me $900 new in the box.

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