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I can't stand Art Bell and George Noory!
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Who is George Noory...
Sorry, my ignorance is showing... John wrote in message ... I can't stand Art Bell and George Noory! cuhulin |
John Smith wrote: Who is George Noory... Sorry, my ignorance is showing... Yes... you've been spewing it for days! dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
dx-dumbarse:
Really, damn, I though you were hanging on my ever word, you cut me to the quick! grin John "dxAce" wrote in message ... John Smith wrote: Who is George Noory... Sorry, my ignorance is showing... Yes... you've been spewing it for days! dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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MnMikew wrote:
CW is not going to go away just because they drop the requirement. Like Steve says, It's not that hard. Most anyone can learn 5 wpm in as little as a month or less. I think that something worth having is worth earning. I say give techs a piece of HF and if they like HF, they can take the test to get access to the rest of it. I'm half-heartedly studying for the tech test and only really have interest in 2m right now. Techs can listen in on the HF bands and determine if they like it. If so, then let that serve as the incentive toward upgrading their license. The incentive licensing has worked well up until now..if you want more privileges, you put in the study to gain the privileges. No need to have techs given a piece of HF, but they can earn it with the upgrade. Bill KC9CS (Extra) |
Hams? Some ancient grey-haired-geriatrics passing gass and ranting that the world is changing in ways they never dreamed possible or like? You obviously don't know me very well. Someone whose best argument for CW is probably based on "historical reasons?" You propose these peoples opinions are to be considered legit and worth taking the time to consider? I don't propose a thing. You have me confused with someone who really gives a hoot. You think I could care less? It's not going to have any effect on what I do. I can already do it all, being an extra, and nothing is going to change. Really, you believe the world considers these people of much consequence? Do you even think the world ever considers them as they tap their "hobby keys?" Who gives a rats ass what the world thinks. They aren't hams. Get a life, put down the opium pipe, welcome back to reality! You are one to talk. You have your head stuck so far up your ass it would take a cement chisel to pry it out. I see you blather your silly crap all over many groups. You are the lazy flake, not me. You have already admitted you are a problem child of sorts, and has to see some kind of doktor. *You* need to get back to reality. Usenet is not reality. Even if I were smoking an opium pipe, I could still pass that silly slow 5 wpm code test. Am I gifted? Am I special? No. I'm just not lazy, and sit around and whine about it all day. ROFLOL!!!! Doing my best "Gunny Hartman" imitation....Jeeezzuusss H. Christ, I think he's got a hard-on.... MK |
B. Otten:
I don't think anyone is going to "listen in and like it", right now anyway. Rather, let the techs listen in and come up with new ideas on how they can change it and breath some new life in it... if need be, perhaps some Chicken Banders can grab a license and add some help... then implement them with a purpose... No one likes change but a baby with a wet diaper--get ready baby... grin John "B. Otten" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: CW is not going to go away just because they drop the requirement. Like Steve says, It's not that hard. Most anyone can learn 5 wpm in as little as a month or less. I think that something worth having is worth earning. I say give techs a piece of HF and if they like HF, they can take the test to get access to the rest of it. I'm half-heartedly studying for the tech test and only really have interest in 2m right now. Techs can listen in on the HF bands and determine if they like it. If so, then let that serve as the incentive toward upgrading their license. The incentive licensing has worked well up until now..if you want more privileges, you put in the study to gain the privileges. No need to have techs given a piece of HF, but they can earn it with the upgrade. Bill KC9CS (Extra) |
Well son, perhaps some of those Chicken Banders have degrees in a
mental heath field... perhaps they can offer counseling and make the transition easier... Let's not jump to any conclusions until they get here... John wrote in message oups.com... Hams? Some ancient grey-haired-geriatrics passing gass and ranting that the world is changing in ways they never dreamed possible or like? You obviously don't know me very well. Someone whose best argument for CW is probably based on "historical reasons?" You propose these peoples opinions are to be considered legit and worth taking the time to consider? I don't propose a thing. You have me confused with someone who really gives a hoot. You think I could care less? It's not going to have any effect on what I do. I can already do it all, being an extra, and nothing is going to change. Really, you believe the world considers these people of much consequence? Do you even think the world ever considers them as they tap their "hobby keys?" Who gives a rats ass what the world thinks. They aren't hams. Get a life, put down the opium pipe, welcome back to reality! You are one to talk. You have your head stuck so far up your ass it would take a cement chisel to pry it out. I see you blather your silly crap all over many groups. You are the lazy flake, not me. You have already admitted you are a problem child of sorts, and has to see some kind of doktor. *You* need to get back to reality. Usenet is not reality. Even if I were smoking an opium pipe, I could still pass that silly slow 5 wpm code test. Am I gifted? Am I special? No. I'm just not lazy, and sit around and whine about it all day. ROFLOL!!!! Doing my best "Gunny Hartman" imitation....Jeeezzuusss H. Christ, I think he's got a hard-on.... MK |
Mark:
Your logic and facts, as you present them, are well taken. Indeed, I am anxious to see any arguments which are posed to the contrary... John "Mark Zenier" wrote in message ... In article , John Smith wrote: Tell me, what is/are a legitimate argument(s) to keep CW a requirement, which any sane man/woman could argue with real and logical conviction? The real reason for the Morse requirement was, (three quarters of a century ago or so, after WW I), to maintain a pool of people that could be inducted into the military in times of war to maintain communications on the battlefield. Learning Morse is not a natural act. Nor, for more than a small percentage of the population, very easy. Getting a bunch of Signal Corps cannon fodder to train themselves was a great boon. Back about 20 years ago, when Digital Signal Processor ICs were first coming out, I did a bunch of library research on the possiblity of building a box that could match the performance of a human operator. The newest paper I could find on the actual use of CW, in the open literature, was from 1959. They were no longer interested in using it. It takes too long to train an operator, and the data transmission capacity is too low. And if the radio operator gets shot... (There was, reportedly, a lot of expertise in the NSA and its military affiliates in automated CW intercepts, as the Soviet Union and third world still had a lot of tactical comm. in CW at that time). But at that same time, 20 years ago, I got some insight, (at a job interview), into what the miltary was planning for the future. It was automating an entire infantry division with packet radio. Not much reason to learn Morse code when the field radios had 20 kbps (?) packet modems built in, and the field officers could just plug the Grid portable into them. So the military no longer has any need and it's taken 40 years for the ham "community" to figure this out. Mark Zenier Washington State resident |
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