"John Smith" wrote in message
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YEAH!!!

Hide all the answers and require 'em to come up with the answers
psychically!!!

ROFLOL! Get real, any college is test smart, any CS/EE technology
student will blow the doors off any test any panel can come up with in
damn short order.

The ARS written test has been a joke for years. All the answers are
published, all one has to do is buy the book and memorize the answers.. no
need to actually KNOW anything. How many of these damn 'appliance
operators' nowadays can actually build their own equipment? How many can
repair the appliances they buy from HRO or Universal Radio (beyond looking
on the internet for mods)?

dxace:

There are simply NO rational, logical and serious arguments against
dropping the code requirement with can be posed by a sane mind. Mind
you, I said "sane mind!" Or course, insanity is too often given a
painted face and an attempt made to feed it to the unwitting...

John

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"John S." wrote:

Unless the FCC operates very differently from other federal
agencies
the fact that they are using a Notice of Public Rulemaking
signifies
that they have pretty much made up their collective mind to go
ahead
with abolishing the morse requirement.

I wonder if all of those against change have expended as much
energy
writing to the FCC as they have repeating the same worn old
arguments
here on the news group.

The only worn out arguments are those expressed by those who want
the code test
dropped. The majority of whom it would seem are to stupid or lazy or
both to
take the time to actually learn something.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

John S. wrote:

Peter Maus wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:


On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:33:52 -0500, "Count Floyd"
wrote:



On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:41:48 UTC, beerbarrel
wrote:



On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:31:02 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



Joel Rubin wrote:



On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:33:36 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:



http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc

John


Code ability should be one alternative among other technical tests. It
seems very odd to freeze a technical test in a museum of bygone
technology.

If one cannot learn at least a minimal 5 WPM code then they have absolutely no
business obtaining an amateur license.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Agreed!

Then you should also learn how to ride a horse in order to deliver the
mail on time.



That's apples to oranges....Cw is the most efficient form of
communication in ham radio...




That's a truth not limited to ham radio...pilots have known that
VOR stations identify in Morse coded since the beginning of VOR. As
did/do ADF stations before them. Charts are marked with frequency,
station indentifier, and the Morse equivalent. Knowing the code
saves a lot of time and helps reduce confusion when navigating by
radio.


But what possible connection is there between licensing a ham for
communications on 40 meters and the ability of a pilot to interpret
station designators. Unless the FCC and FAA are merging and they will
be offering one combined license for the amateur Hamilot



I'll let you think about that remark before you retract it.

commander buzzard:

Your ideas, thoughts and convictions would not even count in
horseshoes--they'd miss even the whole pit!!!

John

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
All that can be taken care of with new bandwidth allocations. All
we do is benefit from is finally getting some new and interesting
minds to communicate with. Chatting with ancients farts gets old
quickly...


Eleminating the CW test won't bring in any significant numbers of
new minds into ham radio. Ham radio just isn't interesting to the
current generation code test or no code test. All your yapping is
for naught.

Carter,I happen to own a 1914 Ford Model T Runabout Roadster car.I have
to push the starting handle in and keep my right hand thumb (I am right
handed) and my knees out of the way when I start up that old
car.But,once I get it warmed up a little bit,all I have to do is shut
off the ignition and let the engine stop running and then switch the
ignition back on and if one of the four cylinders is on or near top dead
center,all I have to do is kick a tire and that old Ford T Model engine
will start right up.(it works every time) What if your modern day
vehicle has a burned out starter motor? How are you going to get it
started up if it isn't a straight shift and you can't push it down a
hill in second gear?
cuhulin

Brenda:

Have you ever looked at older tests???

Get real!!! Silk covered wire, TRF receivers, phenolic insulators,
regen receivers, coherers, "crystal detectors" and tubes are already
seen mostly in museums...

Those old tests look difficult because the methods are now understood
better, are totally out-dated, or the equip no longer used!

Yanno, even the bandwidth/freq allocs have changed and most would
guess wrong on those old questions!!!

ROFLOL!!!

John

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
YEAH!!!

Hide all the answers and require 'em to come up with the answers
psychically!!!

ROFLOL! Get real, any college is test smart, any CS/EE technology
student will blow the doors off any test any panel can come up with
in
damn short order.

The ARS written test has been a joke for years. All the answers are
published, all one has to do is buy the book and memorize the
answers.. no
need to actually KNOW anything. How many of these damn 'appliance
operators' nowadays can actually build their own equipment? How many
can
repair the appliances they buy from HRO or Universal Radio (beyond
looking
on the internet for mods)?

Public schools are used by nobody but so-called "teachers" baby sitting
the fed govt dumbed down moron idiot kids.
cuhulin

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Brenda:

Have you ever looked at older tests???

Get real!!! Silk covered wire, TRF receivers, phenolic insulators,
regen receivers, coherers, "crystal detectors" and tubes are already
seen mostly in museums...

Those old tests look difficult because the methods are now understood
better, are totally out-dated, or the equip no longer used!

Yanno, even the bandwidth/freq allocs have changed and most would
guess wrong on those old questions!!!

ROFLOL!!!

I don't know what tests you are talking about, but I am talking about
CURRENT QUESTION POOLS.. not stuff from the 40's.

I hate telephones,except my old antique telephones which I do not use.I
am thinking about rigging up my old 1933 Western Electric desk telephone
so I can use it.But first,I need to find an exterior bell box with the
bells for it.Cell phones sound like a choked chicken when they "ring"
Only fools use cell phones.
cuhulin

And the sum of your combined,,,,,,,,,
cuhulin