MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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"John S." wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey
wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use
of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving
test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test altogether...well start
with your kids.

And that's the point. The written and practical drivers test is a
measure of whether a prospective driver knows something about the law
and theory of driving and has some proficiency in the operation of a
motor vehicle.

The written amateur test proves that the owner has some knowlege of the
theory of radio construction and operation.

The morse code test only tests the ability to translate a language for
which there is no practical use. It does not shed any light on the
ability if the prospective ham to operate a ham radio in a safe and
courteous manner. A live on-the-air test of a prospective ham setting
up a rig and using voice or one of the digital modes would prove
something about his competence as a radio operator.

Copying morse code proves nothing.

Sure it does you stupid 'tard... it proves one can do it!

Which proves????

I give up...

Be a lazy 'tard!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Code proficient.

"dxAce" wrote in message
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MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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"John S." wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey
wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the
use
of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical
driving
test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test altogether...well start
with your kids.

And that's the point. The written and practical drivers test is a
measure of whether a prospective driver knows something about the
law
and theory of driving and has some proficiency in the operation of a
motor vehicle.

The written amateur test proves that the owner has some knowlege of
the
theory of radio construction and operation.

The morse code test only tests the ability to translate a language
for
which there is no practical use. It does not shed any light on the
ability if the prospective ham to operate a ham radio in a safe and
courteous manner. A live on-the-air test of a prospective ham
setting
up a rig and using voice or one of the digital modes would prove
something about his competence as a radio operator.

Copying morse code proves nothing.

Sure it does you stupid 'tard... it proves one can do it!

Which proves????

I give up...

Be a lazy 'tard!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Code proficient.

You're sure not phone proficient.

MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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"John S." wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey
wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the
use
of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical
driving
test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test altogether...well start
with your kids.

And that's the point. The written and practical drivers test is a
measure of whether a prospective driver knows something about the
law
and theory of driving and has some proficiency in the operation of a
motor vehicle.

The written amateur test proves that the owner has some knowlege of
the
theory of radio construction and operation.

The morse code test only tests the ability to translate a language
for
which there is no practical use. It does not shed any light on the
ability if the prospective ham to operate a ham radio in a safe and
courteous manner. A live on-the-air test of a prospective ham
setting
up a rig and using voice or one of the digital modes would prove
something about his competence as a radio operator.

Copying morse code proves nothing.

Sure it does you stupid 'tard... it proves one can do it!

Which proves????

I give up...

Be a lazy 'tard!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Code proficient.

You're sure not phone proficient.

Wanna bet?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Code proficient.

You're sure not phone proficient.

Wanna bet?

I didnt think you could say 'tard on the air.

When or if the big s... hits the fan,Shortwave is the ONLY communication
that will work,Period!
cuhulin

dxAce wrote:



MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"John S." wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey
wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use
of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving
test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test altogether...well start
with your kids.

And that's the point. The written and practical drivers test is a
measure of whether a prospective driver knows something about the law
and theory of driving and has some proficiency in the operation of a
motor vehicle.

The written amateur test proves that the owner has some knowlege of the
theory of radio construction and operation.

The morse code test only tests the ability to translate a language for
which there is no practical use. It does not shed any light on the
ability if the prospective ham to operate a ham radio in a safe and
courteous manner. A live on-the-air test of a prospective ham setting
up a rig and using voice or one of the digital modes would prove
something about his competence as a radio operator.

Copying morse code proves nothing.

Sure it does you stupid 'tard... it proves one can do it!

Which proves????

I give up...

Be a lazy 'tard!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Code proficient.

Answer the question, stupid. What is the specific reason for learning an
obsolete mode of communication? So what if code is better, so were Beta
videotapes, and how long has it been since you've seen one of those?
Face the facts: morse code is obsolete, it has been for a long time, and
the only ones who demand that the newbies learn it are 60 year old hams
who had to learn 20wpm for their ham test in 1962. Code still has a few
applications, yes-specifically airplane waypoint beacons, which
broadcast in code. But those aren't actually copied by the pilots,
instead a light goes on in the cockpit when the plane passes over a
beacon, so the pilot knows he's on course. But for ham applications, and
marine distress signals, and most everything else, it's obsolete. It's a
requirement that was useful in 1920, but it's outlived its usefulness.


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rd:

Personally, my auto-ident in CW will always be close to my heart, I
fail to even notice it anymore...

John

"running dogg" wrote in message
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dxAce wrote:



MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"John S." wrote:

beerbarrel wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:29:37 -0400, Cmdr Buzz Corey

wrote:

John S. wrote:


Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient
in the use
of a
buggy whip in addition to passing a written and
practical driving
test.


If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good
idea.



Maybe we should just drop the driving test
altogether...well start
with your kids.

And that's the point. The written and practical drivers test
is a
measure of whether a prospective driver knows something about
the law
and theory of driving and has some proficiency in the
operation of a
motor vehicle.

The written amateur test proves that the owner has some
knowlege of the
theory of radio construction and operation.

The morse code test only tests the ability to translate a
language for
which there is no practical use. It does not shed any light
on the
ability if the prospective ham to operate a ham radio in a
safe and
courteous manner. A live on-the-air test of a prospective
ham setting
up a rig and using voice or one of the digital modes would
prove
something about his competence as a radio operator.

Copying morse code proves nothing.

Sure it does you stupid 'tard... it proves one can do it!

Which proves????

I give up...

Be a lazy 'tard!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Code proficient.

Answer the question, stupid. What is the specific reason for
learning an
obsolete mode of communication? So what if code is better, so were
Beta
videotapes, and how long has it been since you've seen one of those?
Face the facts: morse code is obsolete, it has been for a long time,
and
the only ones who demand that the newbies learn it are 60 year old
hams
who had to learn 20wpm for their ham test in 1962. Code still has a
few
applications, yes-specifically airplane waypoint beacons, which
broadcast in code. But those aren't actually copied by the pilots,
instead a light goes on in the cockpit when the plane passes over a
beacon, so the pilot knows he's on course. But for ham applications,
and
marine distress signals, and most everything else, it's obsolete.
It's a
requirement that was useful in 1920, but it's outlived its
usefulness.


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John Smith wrote:

rd:

Personally, my auto-ident in CW will always be close to my heart, I
fail to even notice it anymore...

You got one of those on your CB? A 'roger-beep' too?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

dx-boob:

Actually, I have a severe distaste for "roger beep." (indeed, I should
think I would dislike his whole family! grin)

However, my computers sound card, patched to a mic in is able to say
cutsie little mp3's, such as:
"Houston, I think we have a problem" and, "Maybe the dingo ate yer
baby!", etc...

I don't really do echo either, however the dsp software on the sound
card (written by myself, in C++) is able to provide a plethora of
strange/unusual and not-often-heard effects, it is one-of-a-kind, I
assure you... grin

John

"dxAce" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:

rd:

Personally, my auto-ident in CW will always be close to my heart, I
fail to even notice it anymore...

You got one of those on your CB? A 'roger-beep' too?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

running dogg wrote:



But those aren't actually copied by the pilots,
instead a light goes on in the cockpit when the plane passes over a
beacon, so the pilot knows he's on course.

The code is there so the pilot can verify, if necessary, that he is
tuned to the correct VOR. The Morse characters are printed on the
sectional chart next to the VOR symbol.