On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:21:54 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:14:53 GMT, David wrote:


Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II,
pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

Another crazed white guy.


This "crazed white guy" (as you call him) helped to save the world
from the nazis. I guess you don't like that he did that, do you?
I wonder where you live?

And I suppose you also sympathize with the islamic terrorists?

Peter Newman

Then you suppose erroneously.

The ****ing English in large part created the Middle East mess. Don't
give me that tired old Churchill crap.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:41:59 GMT, David wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:21:54 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:14:53 GMT, David wrote:


Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II,
pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

Another crazed white guy.


This "crazed white guy" (as you call him) helped to save the world
from the nazis. I guess you don't like that he did that, do you?
I wonder where you live?

And I suppose you also sympathize with the islamic terrorists?

Peter Newman

Then you suppose erroneously.

In that case, explain this "another crazed white guy" reply of yours.
Do I suppose correctly that perhaps you are not white and are not
entirely happy about your colour? Would it be also perhaps correct to
assume that you are a racist?

The ****ing English in large part created the Middle East mess. Don't
give me that tired old Churchill crap.


The English certainly did not create Al Qaeda. And that "old tired
Churchill" description of Islam is certainly more fitting than
anything that any politician of today would dare to say publicly.

The problem of today is Islam and its crazed Muslims - certainly not
"crazed white guys".

Peter Newman

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:11:21 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


The problem of today is Islam and its crazed Muslims - certainly not
"crazed white guys".

Peter Newman

The problem today is people refusing to live within their means, both
personally and nationally.

The problem today is people see the differences between one another,
not the similarities.

If you want to defeat the jihadists you do not attack their religion.
You stop giving them reasons to kill you.

Bono is right. If the West would use their riches to truly help the
starving and infirm (most of whom are incidently Muslim), while
cutting back on the greed and gluttony at home that forces us to kill
for oil, then the jihadists wouldn't be able to recruit.

David wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:11:21 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:

The problem of today is Islam and its crazed Muslims - certainly not
"crazed white guys".

Peter Newman

The problem today is people refusing to live within their means, both
personally and nationally.

Really? Or is it simply jealousy on your part, 'tard boy?

The problem today is people see the differences between one another,
not the similarities.

Speak for yourself, 'tard boy.

If you want to defeat the jihadists you do not attack their religion.
You stop giving them reasons to kill you.

They are using their 'religion' as a reason to KILL YOU, 'tard boy.

Bono is right.

Bono is a passable musician. Other than that, he's just another 'tard boy.

If the West would use their riches to truly help the
starving and infirm (most of whom are incidently Muslim), while
cutting back on the greed and gluttony at home that forces us to kill
for oil, then the jihadists wouldn't be able to recruit.

Aha... more income re-distribution, eh, Komrade 'tard boy?

LMAO at the clueless 'tard yet again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:43:53 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



If the West would use their riches to truly help the
starving and infirm (most of whom are incidently Muslim), while
cutting back on the greed and gluttony at home that forces us to kill
for oil, then the jihadists wouldn't be able to recruit.

Aha... more income re-distribution, eh, Komrade 'tard boy?

LMAO at the clueless 'tard yet again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

''Income redistribution''?

Like giving billions and billions to Halliburton?

Think of meaningful foreign aid as another kind of defense spending.

Big problems require radical solutions. Otherwise, we will all go
down together.

David wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:43:53 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



If the West would use their riches to truly help the
starving and infirm (most of whom are incidently Muslim), while
cutting back on the greed and gluttony at home that forces us to kill
for oil, then the jihadists wouldn't be able to recruit.

Aha... more income re-distribution, eh, Komrade 'tard boy?

LMAO at the clueless 'tard yet again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

''Income redistribution''?

Like giving billions and billions to Halliburton?

Think of meaningful foreign aid as another kind of defense spending.

Big problems require radical solutions. Otherwise, we will all go
down together.

I ain't going down anywhere with you, 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

I ain't going down anywhere with you, 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


In flames, Sweetheart. In flames.

"David" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:43:53 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



If the West would use their riches to truly help the
starving and infirm (most of whom are incidently Muslim), while
cutting back on the greed and gluttony at home that forces us to kill
for oil, then the jihadists wouldn't be able to recruit.

Aha... more income re-distribution, eh, Komrade 'tard boy?

LMAO at the clueless 'tard yet again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

''Income redistribution''?

Like giving billions and billions to Halliburton?

Think of meaningful foreign aid as another kind of defense spending.

Big problems require radical solutions. Otherwise, we will all go
down together.


You know why HB gets the work? Because their the only MFs that can handle
projects of the size their getting.

B.H.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:31:49 -0500, "Brian Hill"
wrote:




You know why HB gets the work? Because their the only MFs that can handle
projects of the size their getting.

B.H.

Cheney and Herbert Bush set the whole deal up. It's a scam.

$60 dollars a day per soldier for spoiled food.

Sailboat fuel convoys.

Billions of dollars missing.

During WW2 there was commission to provide oversight and prevent
profiteering, set up by a Democratic congress to oversee a Democratic
president. Republicans have no intention of checking up on their own.
They are swine.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:37:18 GMT, David wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:11:21 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


The problem of today is Islam and its crazed Muslims - certainly not
"crazed white guys".

Peter Newman

The problem today is people refusing to live within their means, both
personally and nationally.

The problem today is people see the differences between one another,
not the similarities.

If you want to defeat the jihadists you do not attack their religion.
You stop giving them reasons to kill you.

Bono is right. If the West would use their riches to truly help the
starving and infirm (most of whom are incidently Muslim), while
cutting back on the greed and gluttony at home that forces us to kill
for oil, then the jihadists wouldn't be able to recruit.



You have not responded to my questions enquiring about your racism
implicit in your earlier "crazed white guys" statement. I understand
you have now realized its silliness.

The assertion that terrorism is somehow related to the West
not "living within their means" is a popular cliche amongst the left,
but entirely erroneous. None of the 9/11 terrorists were recruited
from poor people. Moreover, none of them specified poverty as the
cause of their act. For example, Mohammed Atta's father claims that
his son's act (of which he remains immensely proud) is just a first
shot in a long religious war.

To always look for "white man's guilt" as root causes of events is
misleading and disingenuous at the least.

Bono and Geldof are not right at all - they are simply skillful
publicity seekers. Throwing money on poor countries won't help them -
this will only promote their culture of dependency and corruption and
achieve an entirely opposite effect. What would help is establishing a
strong legal system combined with responsible law enforcement where
local business can safely take roots, and where foreign business can
safely invest to.

People like Bono and Geldof should demonstrate en masse against real
"crazy black guys" like Mugabe, the true culprits of poverty, not
against this mythical "crazy white man" supposedly responsible for all
the world's ills.

It is all too easy to blame responsibility on the West, closing one's
eye's to the real causes - which seem too politically incorrect and
uncomfortable to speak out.

The West needs to make no excuses for living well - we have worked
hard many long centuries to achieve our standard of living. We are
always happy to help - as we indeed do. But to blame us for other
countries' failures, in this case for the obvious failures of Islamic
countries, is a bit too much.

The root cause of economic and social failures of Islamic countries is
simply Islam.

Peter Newman