On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:35:26 -0500, wrote:

I am not knocking Taiwan,but Sangean radios are made in Taiwan

Not all of them. Some are ChiCom.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 03:39:04 -0400, "Lucky"
wrote:


From first impressions only, I like it a lot.

SHOCKER. It's assembled in India NOT China.

The build quality is actually superb for a rig classified as a portable. The
sync detector work very well IMO but remember I've only used one night, a
couple hours now. It also has double sideband like the HF-150. The PBT on a
portable is really a nice touch. The thing that amazed me was how well it's
implemented. They really took their time to do this one right. I think it
will be a big seller for them even at 5 bills. Prices will probably drop $75
by the holidays. This is also because of the build quality. This doesn't
stink from a cheap China clone factory product. Once people realize it's a
very respectabl built rig, they'll buy it.

The sound quality is very good and clean.
A real pleasure for BCB so far. Being able to knock between 7khz and 4 is
nice and comes in handy.

The bass and treble controls work very well especially with the bandwidth
choices of 7/4/2.3. I can't comment on the sensitivity yet cause I don't
have a PAL connector for the external antenna. Don't know why they chose
such a adaption. I have my main antenna hooked up to the whip for tonight.
There is choice of "DX" which acts as active antenna to boost signals.

You can chose from internal antenna {whip} to ext ant. with side switches.
One for FM and one for HF. The case seems to be made of some type of hard,
but rubbery feeling material. I think it could handle a moderate drop. The
eronomics are good on the very front though the buttons seem a tad on the
tiny side. But, I found that the knobs like the volume and PBT, bass and
treble to not be as recessed as much as I'd like. Turning the knobs sides is
very easy but if the radios back stand is pulled out and it's rested tilted
up, you feel there is not enough debt to them. You do get used to it pretty
quickly but it irritated me somewhat.

The whip can be rotated at a 90 degree angle so the it can point straight up
when resting on it's back. What I didn't like was the whip wouldn't stay on
it's side or at a 45 degree angle. When I let go of it it fell all the way
to one side. Perhaps it can be tightened a little to keep in exact position.

Now I didn't go thru the whole manual yet, but in ECSS the frequency seemed
to be off like 7kHz.. It didn't zero beat on certain known local stations
here in Florida. I don't have that with my other rigs. Looking thru the
menus I can't find a offset for it. Only an offset for the time and clocks.
I have to look into this more.

The AGC has a slow/fast and Auto mode which keep the AGC in fast mode
between tuning so you don't miss weak signals. Too bad you can't turn it
off.

That's about for now. I need to spend more time with it and read the
complete manual twice before I can really give more observations. The only
thing that really bothered me was the ergonomics. They should have made sure
there was a 360 degree recess all around any knobs.
It's not like it's a tiny portable with little real estate to work with.

If this was priced at $300, it would fly off the shelves. But, I think since
it's considered a "sat radio", people have to pay for added XM components
that they don't need. Like I said before, I believe XMSR helped Eton out to
some degree with the quality of this radio.

I'll tell you one thing this makes one hell of a portable if you got the
energy to power it. They say many of the fuctions drain battery life more
then the others so.
It's a pretty big portable. It's man's tote!

Lucky



Radio Shack has a Euro to F adapter.

http://www.radioshack.com/search.asp...search&S RC=1

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 03:39:04 -0400, "Lucky"
wrote:


From first impressions only, I like it a lot.

SHOCKER. It's assembled in India NOT China.

The build quality is actually superb for a rig classified as a portable.
The
sync detector work very well IMO but remember I've only used one night, a
couple hours now. It also has double sideband like the HF-150. The PBT on
a
portable is really a nice touch. The thing that amazed me was how well
it's
implemented. They really took their time to do this one right. I think it
will be a big seller for them even at 5 bills. Prices will probably drop
$75
by the holidays. This is also because of the build quality. This doesn't
stink from a cheap China clone factory product. Once people realize it's a
very respectabl built rig, they'll buy it.

The sound quality is very good and clean.
A real pleasure for BCB so far. Being able to knock between 7khz and 4 is
nice and comes in handy.

The bass and treble controls work very well especially with the bandwidth
choices of 7/4/2.3. I can't comment on the sensitivity yet cause I don't
have a PAL connector for the external antenna. Don't know why they chose
such a adaption. I have my main antenna hooked up to the whip for tonight.
There is choice of "DX" which acts as active antenna to boost signals.

You can chose from internal antenna {whip} to ext ant. with side switches.
One for FM and one for HF. The case seems to be made of some type of hard,
but rubbery feeling material. I think it could handle a moderate drop. The
eronomics are good on the very front though the buttons seem a tad on the
tiny side. But, I found that the knobs like the volume and PBT, bass and
treble to not be as recessed as much as I'd like. Turning the knobs sides
is
very easy but if the radios back stand is pulled out and it's rested
tilted
up, you feel there is not enough debt to them. You do get used to it
pretty
quickly but it irritated me somewhat.

The whip can be rotated at a 90 degree angle so the it can point straight
up
when resting on it's back. What I didn't like was the whip wouldn't stay
on
it's side or at a 45 degree angle. When I let go of it it fell all the way
to one side. Perhaps it can be tightened a little to keep in exact
position.

Now I didn't go thru the whole manual yet, but in ECSS the frequency
seemed
to be off like 7kHz.. It didn't zero beat on certain known local stations
here in Florida. I don't have that with my other rigs. Looking thru the
menus I can't find a offset for it. Only an offset for the time and
clocks.
I have to look into this more.

The AGC has a slow/fast and Auto mode which keep the AGC in fast mode
between tuning so you don't miss weak signals. Too bad you can't turn it
off.

That's about for now. I need to spend more time with it and read the
complete manual twice before I can really give more observations. The only
thing that really bothered me was the ergonomics. They should have made
sure
there was a 360 degree recess all around any knobs.
It's not like it's a tiny portable with little real estate to work with.

If this was priced at $300, it would fly off the shelves. But, I think
since
it's considered a "sat radio", people have to pay for added XM components
that they don't need. Like I said before, I believe XMSR helped Eton out
to
some degree with the quality of this radio.

I'll tell you one thing this makes one hell of a portable if you got the
energy to power it. They say many of the fuctions drain battery life more
then the others so.
It's a pretty big portable. It's man's tote!

Lucky



Radio Shack has a Euro to F adapter.

http://www.radioshack.com/search.asp...search&S RC=1


Hi David

Thanks for that info. It helps to eliminate any potential hassles knowing
the part numbers. Have a good day!

Lucky

Thanks Lucky for the observations. I am surprised that it ended up
being produced in India. I wonder what company is doing the assembly?

I'll probably end up getting one someday, but I still plan on waiting
for a few more productions runs (and perhaps a revision) before I get
one.

"mike0219116" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks Lucky for the observations. I am surprised that it ended up
being produced in India. I wonder what company is doing the assembly?

I'll probably end up getting one someday, but I still plan on waiting
for a few more productions runs (and perhaps a revision) before I get
one.


Anytime Mike.

I enjoy talking to and helping you guys out anytime. I remember how some
people in here were so nice to me when I first started out with newbie
questions. But they still replied to help me and I didn't forget that.

All it says is "assembled in India" and the manual states "Eton out of Ca."
is the manufacturer. I bet once word gets around about this rig from more
respected reviewers, it will sell good.
You'll get one you'll see.

And about wanting to wait for later production runs, you might have
something there. On the back of the radio on the left side of where the tilt
stand comes out, there is small circle covered with a tab of plastic that
can snap off. I couldn't find one word about what it is or what it does
anywhere in the docs.

But, one other user called Eton up about it and they say it was meant to be
the XM antenna port but was later redesigned.
So it's a useless hole/tab. But, I have a feeling it won't be removed
anytime soon.
My radio is the 122nd made.

Lucky


Lucky

Will it pick up that radio station in Monticello,Mississippi in the
daytime from over here on the West side of Jackson,Mississippi where I
live.If not,I am not interested in that radio.Look in a Rand McNally
road atlatlas,Monticello isn't far from Jackson.Build a AM radio for
about $300.00 that will pick up Monticello from where I live without an
external antenna and I will gladly buy that radio.
cuhulin

And all that outsourcing from U.S.A.to India.I once phoned webtv about
something,the guy who picked up the phone was in India.I have a hard
enough time understanding yankees (I mean that in a nice way though) let
alone folks in India.I hung up my phone and waited a while,dialed again
and got a very nice lady in Vancouver,Canada.At least I could understand
what she was saying.
cuhulin

Meanwhile,folks in U.S.A.whom had good paying jobs are flipping burgers
or greeting us in the wal mart stores.It is part of U.S.fed govt's
plan,selling us down the River and turning U.S.A.into a third World
Country.Open borders,Sewage in the streets in Long Island.
cuhulin