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Old July 31st 05, 04:17 PM
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cuhulin:

There may indeed be a way to make hydrogen on demand. Hydrogen can be
extracted from hydrogen peroxide and something ran off it. At a GREAT
EXPENSE--making gas look dirt cheap.

Are you saying this guy has developed a method of extracting hydrogen out of
the ether, there is damn little in the air we are breathing!

John

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A guy in North Carolina built a scale model car for a science class that
never runs out of Hydrogen,it makes it's own Hydrogen fuel.It really
works too.I told y'all about that a few weeks ago.
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Old July 31st 05, 06:26 PM
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In article ,
dxAce wrote:


David wrote:

Oil Companies Discover 'Sustainability'


What frequency is this all on, 'tard boy?


I'd try "The National Interest" on Radio Australia. That would be
10 AM Sunday CDT on 9590, 7240 or 5995. Or 6 AM Monday CDT on 9590/9580.

On June 17, they had a great program.

An investment banker about how the oil reserve estimates are FUBAR.

And an interview with the author of "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"
about how the development banks, the US State Department and intelligence
agencies and the multinational constructions companies are playing an
version "Owing Your Soul the the Company Store" on a nation state level
by deliberatly putting third world countries in a position where they
are so tied down by their debts that they can't do anything.

If you can't figure out "why they hate us", check this out. First
you find a country that has resources or a useful geographic location.
And having a corrupt government helps. Then you come up with a
"development plan" that's total fiction. (This was the author's job
in the conspiracy, as an economist for an engineering consulting firm).
Then the third world country gets zillions in loans from the
development banks. Then the construction companies build something
that won't work or will never pay out. So now the development banks
(and the US agencies that actually call the shots) now have the poor
country by the balls.

Mark Zenier
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Old August 1st 05, 03:39 PM
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"Brian Hill" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Brian:

How so, where is this "hydrogen" going to come from, for free?

I have never seen pools of the stuff lying about. In college labs

I have
extracted it from sea water, strange, it takes about as much

energy to
recover it from sea water as you get back when you burn (use) the
hydrogen....

What am I missing?

John


Yea I've never seen pools of gas laying around either. It cost $s to

turn
oil into gas, right? Yes it cost money using electricity to do the

work of
extracting hydrogen, but there are other ways too that can work like
titanium dioxide & solar energy to offset the cost of more expensive

ways
etc.. My point is if there was enough human energy and $s thrown at

the
project, we would have it licked and the world would be a cleaner

better
place. There are many scientist that claim they can do it with the

right
resources and I believe them and as long as the big oil CO's are

still
selling oil it's going to be hard stopping they're lobbyist.


My thinking is that yes, it's preferable to what we have
now, but as I like to point out, there will be an impact
of some sort that we can't forsee. Remember, 100 years
ago, cars were a less polluting option to all the horses
that were around, and cars would have been seen as
a "cleaner" alternative to all the horse manure and flies
and other refuse around.

Hydrogen fuel cells would be a nicer alternative, but
what is the long term impact? We don't know. Nuclear
power is a nice alternative to coal and gas fired power
plants, but no one wants to put up with the risks of it
(or the spent fuel).

--Mike L.


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Old August 1st 05, 03:49 PM
 
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Turn all of the poiticians into oil and we got it made,blow them out the
tailpipes of our vehicles.
cuhulin

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Only chatting with the Women.Hey,I am not crazy.
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Old August 1st 05, 03:57 PM
 
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I never cross dress.I wear Dickies work pants (the tan ones,they wear
like iron, www.dickies.com) and regular short sleeve shirts and socks
and shoes and no jewelry except sometimes when I wear my cheap $4.87
Watchit wal mart wris****ch when I go shopping,the wris****ch,most of
the time I don't bother to wear my wris****ch,there are clocks
everywhere in the stores and the time isn't that important to me anyway.
cuhulin

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A guy in North Carolina (I think the article said in North Carolina)
invented a little crude looking model car thingy that runs on Hydrogen
for a science class experiment.According to what he said in the article
the car never needs to be refueled with Hydrogen.(of course,scaling
something like that up to be practical in real size vehicles might take
some doing) I think I emailed that article to one of my webtv
addresses.I will look for it after I read some news updates.Meanwhile,if
y'all will do some searches on the internet for the article,y'all might
beat me to it.
cuhulin

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Old August 1st 05, 04:21 PM
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cuhulin:

I have ran into such guys before, they usually want you to invest in their idea
so they can develop it into a workable product...

When dealing with such guys an old phrase comes to mind, "A fool and his money
are soon parted..."

John

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A guy in North Carolina (I think the article said in North Carolina)
invented a little crude looking model car thingy that runs on Hydrogen
for a science class experiment.According to what he said in the article
the car never needs to be refueled with Hydrogen.(of course,scaling
something like that up to be practical in real size vehicles might take
some doing) I think I emailed that article to one of my webtv
addresses.I will look for it after I read some news updates.Meanwhile,if
y'all will do some searches on the internet for the article,y'all might
beat me to it.
cuhulin



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Old August 1st 05, 04:40 PM
 
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A few years ago I read an article in either Popular Mechanics magazine
or Popular Science magazine about a new way to turn grass into
plastic.The article has a picture of a green plastic plate and cup and
saucer that is made from grass plastic.There is fortune in our yards.
cuhulin

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Old August 1st 05, 04:43 PM
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:39:33 -0400, "Michael Lawson"
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Hydrogen fuel cells would be a nicer alternative, but
what is the long term impact? We don't know. Nuclear
power is a nice alternative to coal and gas fired power
plants, but no one wants to put up with the risks of it
(or the spent fuel).

--Mike L.


Nuclear would be fine if it weren't for all the petroterrorists
threatening to blow-up the spent-fuel rods.

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