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Steve Silverwood August 16th 05 01:10 PM

In article . com,
says...
In china,sometimes, the radio is the only way to know the outside.


Same for some other countries with totalitarian regimes -- Cuba comes to
mind first. There's also the matter of simple geographic isolation,
such as places in Africa or Central Asia. Shortwave gets the message
through when other more technological means are simply not available, or
are limited.

Here's one example: I work for Wycliffe Associates (see
www.wycliffeassociates.org), an organization which mobilizes volunteers
to assist the people in Wycliffe Bible Translators in getting things
done, so that the translators can concentrate on translating and not
worry about building buildings and such. Many of our overseas locations
have some limited Internet capability, but VERY limited in bandwidth --
most dial-up users here in the States get faster throughput, in fact.
Due to that limitation, the Internet connection there is pretty much
dedicated to necessary uses only. Surfing the Web for news and such
falls pretty low on the priority list. Due to geographic isolation,
it's pretty hard to have the New York Times delivered ;-) so what else
is left but shortwave?

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

Steve Silverwood August 16th 05 01:10 PM

In article .com,
says...

Mike Terry wrote:
Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying
like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past?


Is stamp collecting dying? I know people don't use stamps as much as
they once did, since they don't use the regular mail as much as they
once did. However, I'd expect this to be a boon to stamp collecting, as
it makes stamps much more 'collectible'.

The next time you decide to troll rec.radio.shortwave, I suggest you
get your facts straight.


As a stamp collector, I'll tell you what I know. The number of
collectors is somewhat in decline, and the average age is rising. Very
similar to ham radio, in fact. However, that's looking at hobby
collectors. There are other "collectors" who are looking at philately
more as an investment, and those are in fact increasing. So it depends
on your point of view as to the validity of the claim that stamp
collecting is in decline.

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


Steve Silverwood August 16th 05 01:10 PM

In article .com,
says...

Adding to the mix is the increasing cost of oil, Oil generated
Electricity and hence Shortwave transmissions..

BUT,

WBCQ, 7.415 Monticello Maine

looks to be in the vanguard,
putting up Wind Turbines, which will probably let it become a Net
generator of Electricity.


I believe HCJB is doing something along the same lines, with
hydroelectric power, in Ecuador. Or at least, that's what I remember
hearing once on the station. I could be wrong.

They say the memory is the second thing to go as you get older -- I
can't remember what the first one is.... ;-)

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


[email protected] August 16th 05 03:00 PM

If Shortwave dies,what would folks use for emergency communications if
the you know what hits the fan big time? I hope Shortwave never dies.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 16th 05 05:02 PM

Screw the oil!,, lets make oil out of politicians U.S.A.will never run
out of poliicians.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 16th 05 05:58 PM

Some Stamps (and I only baseing this in my opinion) are getting more and
more valuable.Stamp Collectors are nothing sneeze at,am I right?
cuhulin


[email protected] August 16th 05 07:35 PM


Steve Silverwood wrote:
In article ,
says...
Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying
like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past?


I don't think Shortwave is dying at all, neither is ham radio. There
are still a lot of places on this old planet where the Internet is still
not readily available, so for news and entertainment the shortwave
receiver is still pretty much the only method of delivery. Same goes
for some places where the government is restrictive in what it will let
the people see in their regular media, or even on the Internet -- China
is actively filtering access to the Web within that country, for
example.

There may be less discussion about it here on the 'Net but that's not a
very accurate indicator of the medium worldwide. The people who depend
on shortwave are the same people who either don't have access to the
Internet or who are restricted in what they can get to on the 'Net by
their government, hence they don't get into the discussions on RRS
here....

(Stamp collecting may be in a bit of a decline, but that's a subject for
a different news group.)
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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:




I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I
can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many
generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now
people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future.


David August 16th 05 08:39 PM

On 16 Aug 2005 11:35:45 -0700, wrote:



I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I
can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many
generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now
people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future.


That's ridiculous. Major broadcasters are slashing their HF coverage
in favor of superior delivery methods that actually have an audience
beyond hobbyists.




dxAce August 16th 05 08:48 PM



David wrote:

On 16 Aug 2005 11:35:45 -0700, wrote:


I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I
can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many
generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now
people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future.


That's ridiculous.


Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard.

Now go tote it, boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Brian Hill August 17th 05 01:52 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

On 16 Aug 2005 11:35:45 -0700, wrote:


I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I
can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many
generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now
people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future.


That's ridiculous.


Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard.

Now go tote it, boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I think that abortion he was involved in sucked his brains out. lol

B.H.




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