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dxAce August 17th 05 01:55 AM



Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

On 16 Aug 2005 11:35:45 -0700, wrote:


I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I
can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many
generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now
people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future.


That's ridiculous.


Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard.

Now go tote it, boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I think that abortion he was involved in sucked his brains out. lol


Either that or the transplant didn't go very well.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] August 17th 05 02:14 AM

Did someone say something about major broadcasters? I certainly didn't.


dxAce August 17th 05 02:18 AM



wrote:

Did someone say something about major broadcasters?


Rickets did!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



m II August 17th 05 03:22 AM

dxAce wrote:

That's ridiculous.



Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard.


Not so. He is but a mere shadow of *you*, his Master.

Now go BORE it, Bozo.





mike

Gene August 21st 05 01:04 AM

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:46:46 +0100, "Mike Terry"
wrote:

Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying
like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past?


When I got into shortwave listeniing around 1973, it wasn't popular
then. People around me preferred a solid 24/7 AM or FM signal to the
fading in and out of SW and formats that were just a general 1-3 hour
service. SW was added as an after thought to most cheap portables.
Telescopic antennas and dial slider tuning that would whisk past 6
bands in one sweep.

Anyone really into the hobby wanted a longwire and a "serious" $150+
rig, something anyone in any country saturated with AM/FM stations of
any format did not care for.

While it may have popular in the 1930s to 1960s, magazines like
Popular Electronics started dropping their SW columns as the computing
hobby gained steam.

The growth of the Internet has cut into SWBC. Most can stream their
signals to such users and they want to leave SW to outlying regions
that still use it as a means of contact. Times just change.

SWBC is not going away completely, just as newspapers won't.

Gene




Telamon August 21st 05 01:46 AM

In article ,
Gene wrote:

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:46:46 +0100, "Mike Terry"
wrote:

Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying
like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past?


When I got into shortwave listeniing around 1973, it wasn't popular
then. People around me preferred a solid 24/7 AM or FM signal to the
fading in and out of SW and formats that were just a general 1-3 hour
service. SW was added as an after thought to most cheap portables.
Telescopic antennas and dial slider tuning that would whisk past 6
bands in one sweep.

Anyone really into the hobby wanted a longwire and a "serious" $150+
rig, something anyone in any country saturated with AM/FM stations of
any format did not care for.

While it may have popular in the 1930s to 1960s, magazines like
Popular Electronics started dropping their SW columns as the computing
hobby gained steam.

The growth of the Internet has cut into SWBC. Most can stream their
signals to such users and they want to leave SW to outlying regions
that still use it as a means of contact. Times just change.

SWBC is not going away completely, just as newspapers won't.


Every time anything exciting happens anywhere in the world the servers
FAIL. They just can't handle the number of interested people. Even the
BBC servers can't keep up and at the NORMAL connection rate the sound
sucks due to the dismally low audio sampling rate. SW sounds much better.
I stopped listening to their computer audio feed because it sounded so
bad.

I've been into SW since I was a teenager and my computer interests have
not supplanted SW radio at all. I am usually listening to SW on the SW
radio while on the computer and connection is plenty fast to stream
audio and do several other things at the same time. I was listening to
Australia on 21,740 and now 17,715. I was listening to Japan and
Netherlands earlier this morning on the SW radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Gene August 21st 05 02:49 AM

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:03 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


Every time anything exciting happens anywhere in the world the servers
FAIL. They just can't handle the number of interested people. Even the
BBC servers can't keep up and at the NORMAL connection rate the sound
sucks due to the dismally low audio sampling rate. SW sounds much better.
I stopped listening to their computer audio feed because it sounded so
bad.


Hi Telemon

I havn't tried my DSL connection under those conditions, but I'm just
looking at the SWBC'ers logic of cutting SW programming for streaming
audio. Personally I don't want to be at my laptop all the time and I
keep the YB400 by my side.

I've been into SW since I was a teenager and my computer interests have
not supplanted SW radio at all. I am usually listening to SW on the SW
radio while on the computer and connection is plenty fast to stream
audio and do several other things at the same time. I was listening to
Australia on 21,740 and now 17,715. I was listening to Japan and
Netherlands earlier this morning on the SW radio.


Right, a lot of good signals out there. Radio Australia and Radio New
Zealand (15720) are my favorites. I just don't chase the DX like I
used to. I'm up the road in Berkeley.

Gene

Telamon August 21st 05 03:59 AM

In article ,
Gene wrote:

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:03 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


Every time anything exciting happens anywhere in the world the servers
FAIL. They just can't handle the number of interested people. Even the
BBC servers can't keep up and at the NORMAL connection rate the sound
sucks due to the dismally low audio sampling rate. SW sounds much better.
I stopped listening to their computer audio feed because it sounded so
bad.


Hi Telemon

I havn't tried my DSL connection under those conditions, but I'm just
looking at the SWBC'ers logic of cutting SW programming for streaming
audio. Personally I don't want to be at my laptop all the time and I
keep the YB400 by my side.

I've been into SW since I was a teenager and my computer interests have
not supplanted SW radio at all. I am usually listening to SW on the SW
radio while on the computer and connection is plenty fast to stream
audio and do several other things at the same time. I was listening to
Australia on 21,740 and now 17,715. I was listening to Japan and
Netherlands earlier this morning on the SW radio.


Right, a lot of good signals out there. Radio Australia and Radio New
Zealand (15720) are my favorites. I just don't chase the DX like I
used to. I'm up the road in Berkeley.


I was never big on DXing, just a program listener here. I just like this
SW radio technology where I can cut out the middle man. I have spent to
much of my life reading news papers and magazines where some reporter
tells me what people in other countries are thinking.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Brian Hill August 21st 05 04:25 AM


"Telamon" wrote in message I
was never big on DXing, just a program listener here. I just like this
SW radio technology where I can cut out the middle man. I have spent to
much of my life reading news papers and magazines where some reporter
tells me what people in other countries are thinking.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


It definitely helps clean out the mind Tel and get a little closer to
understanding the bigger picture around the globe. I myself love to DX
anything i.e. domestic, clandestine, pirates, utility, mil ops, hams etc...
You name it. I remember going camping and hunting with the family up in the
Sierra Nevada's and I would go listen to the am radio in dads truck and what
got my DXing started was late one night, I imagine it was 12:00? or so I got
a station in Chicago and I can't remember what station but I told Dad- hey
what's up with this and he explained in simple terms why and he said if your
into this you should check out shortwave. Been hooked ever since. I'll be
very bummed if shortwave ever did KO. I'd almost rather die on the very last
day of the last great skip carrying the last program. Write it on my
tombstone. : )


--
73 and good DX. B.H.
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm



Telamon August 21st 05 06:18 AM

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message I
was never big on DXing, just a program listener here. I just like this
SW radio technology where I can cut out the middle man. I have spent to
much of my life reading news papers and magazines where some reporter
tells me what people in other countries are thinking.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


It definitely helps clean out the mind Tel and get a little closer to
understanding the bigger picture around the globe. I myself love to DX
anything i.e. domestic, clandestine, pirates, utility, mil ops, hams etc...
You name it. I remember going camping and hunting with the family up in the
Sierra Nevada's and I would go listen to the am radio in dads truck and what
got my DXing started was late one night, I imagine it was 12:00? or so I got
a station in Chicago and I can't remember what station but I told Dad- hey
what's up with this and he explained in simple terms why and he said if your
into this you should check out shortwave. Been hooked ever since. I'll be
very bummed if shortwave ever did KO. I'd almost rather die on the very last
day of the last great skip carrying the last program. Write it on my
tombstone. : )


Receiving distant stations is always exciting it's just that I'm not
into the verifications and scoring how many countries I have heard.
Keeping score was not a interest but improving reception was a goal.
Better antennas and radios are the answer.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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