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Shill bidding?
Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 |
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I reckon I am too poor or too cheap (both) to bid.
cuhulin |
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"Unrevealed Source" wrote in message ... Sure looks like it. What would the play be here? This one does not smell like a "shill-bid setup" to me. More like a feeding frenzy as the R-1000 was not a common radio (low production numbers) and the one shown looks to be in near-mint and well kept. Like most e-bay ham and related auctions the price is way overblown. The most I would pay for an Kenwood R-1000 would be $250 in mint shape or $165.00 worn and well used. Again, this don't look like a shill-bid situation. The clear tipoff to a classic ham radio dealer shill-auction is bids where 30% or more of the total bids are "Undisclosed Bidders" on the Bid History. I would not touch ANY e-Bay auction that has 'undisclosed' bids at any time with a 20' Lineman's Hotstick pole in rubber gloves. Anyone who does is asking to be taken as such are RAMPANT in the Ham Radio categories on e-Bay and are exclusively run by ex-hamfest dealers who will steal you blind in a heartbeat. |
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I wouldn't touch it with a million mile long pole.
cuhulin |
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Unrevealed Source wrote: Sure looks like it. What would the play be here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me. |
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In article .com,
"John S." wrote: Unrevealed Source wrote: Sure looks like it. What would the play be here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=1&sspage nam e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me. I don't like the fact that one bidder has moved the price from $301 to $510 by himself. This looks fishy. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote: In article .com, "John S." wrote: Unrevealed Source wrote: Sure looks like it. What would the play be here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=1&sspage nam e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me. I don't like the fact that one bidder has moved the price from $301 to $510 by himself. This looks fishy. Not hard to do. You'd have to read up on how the bidding process works. dxAce Michigan USA |
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In article ,
dxAce wrote: Telamon wrote: In article .com, "John S." wrote: Unrevealed Source wrote: Sure looks like it. What would the play be here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...358&rd=1&sspag enam e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me. I don't like the fact that one bidder has moved the price from $301 to $510 by himself. This looks fishy. Not hard to do. You'd have to read up on how the bidding process works. Well yeah I can understand how it can happen. A person just keeps putting in another bid but why? I can only speculate as to the reason. Maybe the guy is doing this to off put other bidders but it does not look right to me because he has nearly doubled the price and established a bidding trend. Based on what he has done I can predict his next bid. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"John S." wrote in message oups.com... Unrevealed Source wrote: Sure looks like it. What would the play be here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me. Right John This one guy guy just joined Aug.4th. Now he could have just joined for this auction. The thing is, even though it looks like shill bidding at first glance, I doubt it is. If this is a shill bidder, he went haywire and lost all control! No one is going to outbid this guy and pay so much for a R-1000. I know some collectors will but I doubt this guy is a collector. But, yes, sometimes I'm amazed at the prices some of these older radios go for. But you know what? At this point in my life I can understand it now. Life is short and may get even shorter with the way this world is politically. Anything could go down and who knows what. So, if paying 5 or 6 bills for this radio is going to bring happiness and joy into this guys life, it's worth it to him and that's that. Lucky |
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Unrevealed Source wrote: Sure looks like it. What would the play be here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 A few weeks ago they were going for around $200-$250, when a few were up for auction at any given time. Then a week and a half went by with none available, followed by two in excellent condition (this one being practically new-look at the color of the pushbuttons). For a collector of pristine equipment, I can see it. Not for anyone else. |
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