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Old August 7th 05, 03:37 PM
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Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1


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Old August 7th 05, 03:47 PM
 
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I reckon I am too poor or too cheap (both) to bid.
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Old August 7th 05, 05:48 PM
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Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?


This one does not smell like a "shill-bid setup" to me.
More like a feeding frenzy as the R-1000 was not a
common radio (low production numbers) and the one
shown looks to be in near-mint and well kept.

Like most e-bay ham and related auctions
the price is way overblown. The most I would pay
for an Kenwood R-1000 would be $250 in mint
shape or $165.00 worn and well used.

Again, this don't look like a shill-bid situation.
The clear tipoff to a classic ham radio dealer
shill-auction is bids where 30% or more of
the total bids are "Undisclosed Bidders" on
the Bid History.

I would not touch ANY e-Bay auction that has 'undisclosed' bids
at any time with a 20' Lineman's Hotstick pole in rubber gloves.
Anyone who does is asking to be taken as such are RAMPANT
in the Ham Radio categories on e-Bay and are exclusively run
by ex-hamfest dealers who will steal you blind in a heartbeat.

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I wouldn't touch it with a million mile long pole.
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Old August 7th 05, 06:06 PM
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Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1


Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me.



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Old August 7th 05, 08:27 PM
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In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

Unrevealed Source wrote:
Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=1&sspage nam
e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1


Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me.


I don't like the fact that one bidder has moved the price from $301 to
$510 by himself. This looks fishy.

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Old August 7th 05, 08:33 PM
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Telamon wrote:

In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

Unrevealed Source wrote:
Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=1&sspage nam
e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1


Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me.


I don't like the fact that one bidder has moved the price from $301 to
$510 by himself. This looks fishy.


Not hard to do. You'd have to read up on how the bidding process works.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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Old August 7th 05, 09:01 PM
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In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

Unrevealed Source wrote:
Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...358&rd=1&sspag
enam
e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me.


I don't like the fact that one bidder has moved the price from $301 to
$510 by himself. This looks fishy.


Not hard to do. You'd have to read up on how the bidding process works.

Well yeah I can understand how it can happen. A person just keeps
putting in another bid but why? I can only speculate as to the reason.
Maybe the guy is doing this to off put other bidders but it does not
look right to me because he has nearly doubled the price and established
a bidding trend. Based on what he has done I can predict his next bid.

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Old August 7th 05, 10:21 PM
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"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

Unrevealed Source wrote:
Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1


Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me.


Right John

This one guy guy just joined Aug.4th. Now he could have just joined for this
auction. The thing is, even though it looks like shill bidding at first
glance, I doubt it is. If this is a shill bidder, he went haywire and lost
all control! No one is going to outbid this guy and pay so much for a
R-1000. I know some collectors will but I doubt this guy is a collector.

But, yes, sometimes I'm amazed at the prices some of these older radios go
for.
But you know what? At this point in my life I can understand it now. Life is
short and may get even shorter with the way this world is politically.
Anything could go down and who knows what.

So, if paying 5 or 6 bills for this radio is going to bring happiness and
joy into this guys life, it's worth it to him and that's that.

Lucky


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Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1


A few weeks ago they were going for around $200-$250, when a few were
up for auction at any given time. Then a week and a half went by with
none available, followed by two in excellent condition (this one being
practically new-look at the color of the pushbuttons). For a collector
of pristine equipment, I can see it. Not for anyone else.



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