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Old August 7th 05, 08:20 PM
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For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used radio
market.


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Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

A few weeks ago they were going for around $200-$250, when a few were
up for auction at any given time. Then a week and a half went by with
none available, followed by two in excellent condition (this one being
practically new-look at the color of the pushbuttons). For a collector
of pristine equipment, I can see it. Not for anyone else.



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Old August 7th 05, 08:28 PM
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For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used radio
market.


I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner, under every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
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Old August 7th 05, 09:12 PM
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$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it for
that kind of money.....



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For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.


I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner, under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




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Old August 7th 05, 10:19 PM
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I believe the play here is that the shills bid it up, then the seller
contacts the next-highest bidder and offers to sell it off eBay (since the
high bidder "backed out"), for that seller's high bid. That way, there is
no PayPal buyer protection or negative feedback that can be left.


"Frank Bals" wrote in message
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$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it

for
that kind of money.....



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Unrevealed Source wrote:

For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.


I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner,

under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm






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Old August 8th 05, 03:46 PM
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I believe the play here is that the shills bid it up, then the seller
contacts the next-highest bidder and offers to sell it off eBay (since the
high bidder "backed out"), for that seller's high bid. That way, there
is
no PayPal buyer protection or negative feedback that can be left.


"Frank Bals" wrote in message
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$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it

for
that kind of money.....



"dxAce" wrote in message
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Unrevealed Source wrote:

For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or
at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.

I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner,

under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm







I didn't think of that. Very astute on your part and I think it would work
rather well if the other person goes for it. I wouldn't . I want some sort
of protection at those prices.

Lucky




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Old August 8th 05, 05:37 PM
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Lucky wrote:
"Unrevealed Source" wrote in message
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I believe the play here is that the shills bid it up, then the
seller contacts the next-highest bidder and offers to sell it off
eBay (since the high bidder "backed out"), for that seller's high
bid. That way, there is no PayPal buyer protection or negative
feedback that can be left.


I don't believe that the above is true... The name of the "next-highest
bidder" came from eBay and eBay calls this type of transaction a "second
chance" offer, with all the rights, privileges and protection that that
the highest bidder has. Also, the price in this case is what the
*second* highest bidder offered, not the first highest. However, if
someone does offer you something "off eBay", watch out!
73,
Carter
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Old August 8th 05, 05:04 PM
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Unrevealed Source wrote:
I believe the play here is that the shills bid it up, then the seller
contacts the next-highest bidder and offers to sell it off eBay (since the
high bidder "backed out"), for that seller's high bid. That way, there is
no PayPal buyer protection or negative feedback that can be left.


And one other possibility is that seller is enforcing a reserve without
having to pay Ebay fees. Seen that many times.

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Old August 7th 05, 10:26 PM
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"Frank Bals" wrote in message
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$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it
for that kind of money.....



"dxAce" wrote in message
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Unrevealed Source wrote:

For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.


I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner, under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm





I never, ever, ever will pay a radio off someone unless they take Paypal for
credit cards or just credit cards alone. If the person is honest, and knows
he has a good working radio, and he sees you have good feedback too, there
is NO reason he would be scared to take a CC.

It protects all parties except a scam artist.
Me like a dummy was so tempted by a new Lowe HF-250 last week, I was ready
to send off cash to some guy in Germany for it. Yes he had great feedback,
but as much as I wanted the rig, and even watched acution to completion, I
never bid on it.

So if they don't take a credit cards, and the radio is over $80, then no go.

Lucky


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Old August 7th 05, 10:58 PM
 
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A few weeks ago,I wanted to buy something from www.geeks.com
geeks.com doesn't have a toll free phone number (if they have one
now,they didn't have one a few weeks ago and I will not waste my time to
check out their website again) and they only had a few of the items in
stock.So I emailed geeks.com about the item I wanted to buy.I never did
get an email reply from geeks.com Any company like that,that doesn't at
least have a toll free phone number is not worth dong business with,in
my opinion.I understand all the jazz about toll free phone numbers and
perhaps geeks.com can't have somebody sitting around there to pick up
the phone to reply to a toll free phone call,but if they can reply to a
local or long distance non toll free phone call,they can certainly reply
to a toll free phone call,it doesn't cost all that much money to have a
toll free phone number.geeks.com lost a sale of about $85.00 to me.
cuhulin

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What is it called if somebody puts something (a radio,for instance) on
ebay and starts a bidding price and then he or she uses a different name
at a different computer with a different IP address? To keep driving up
the price more than the item or items are worth.Does that sort of thing
happen much on ebay? Frankly,I dont like auctions at all.
cuhulin



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