In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

Unrevealed Source wrote:
Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...358&rd=1&sspag
enam
e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me.

I don't like the fact that one bidder has moved the price from $301 to
$510 by himself. This looks fishy.

Not hard to do. You'd have to read up on how the bidding process works.

Well yeah I can understand how it can happen. A person just keeps
putting in another bid but why? I can only speculate as to the reason.
Maybe the guy is doing this to off put other bidders but it does not
look right to me because he has nearly doubled the price and established
a bidding trend. Based on what he has done I can predict his next bid.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it for
that kind of money.....



"dxAce" wrote in message
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Unrevealed Source wrote:

For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.

I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner, under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

I believe the play here is that the shills bid it up, then the seller
contacts the next-highest bidder and offers to sell it off eBay (since the
high bidder "backed out"), for that seller's high bid. That way, there is
no PayPal buyer protection or negative feedback that can be left.


"Frank Bals" wrote in message
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$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it
for
that kind of money.....



"dxAce" wrote in message
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Unrevealed Source wrote:

For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.

I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner,
under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...

Unrevealed Source wrote:
Sure looks like it. What would the play be here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Several low/no feedback bidders are suspicious to me.


Right John

This one guy guy just joined Aug.4th. Now he could have just joined for this
auction. The thing is, even though it looks like shill bidding at first
glance, I doubt it is. If this is a shill bidder, he went haywire and lost
all control! No one is going to outbid this guy and pay so much for a
R-1000. I know some collectors will but I doubt this guy is a collector.

But, yes, sometimes I'm amazed at the prices some of these older radios go
for.
But you know what? At this point in my life I can understand it now. Life is
short and may get even shorter with the way this world is politically.
Anything could go down and who knows what.

So, if paying 5 or 6 bills for this radio is going to bring happiness and
joy into this guys life, it's worth it to him and that's that.

Lucky

"Frank Bals" wrote in message
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$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it
for that kind of money.....



"dxAce" wrote in message
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Unrevealed Source wrote:

For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.

I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner, under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm





I never, ever, ever will pay a radio off someone unless they take Paypal for
credit cards or just credit cards alone. If the person is honest, and knows
he has a good working radio, and he sees you have good feedback too, there
is NO reason he would be scared to take a CC.

It protects all parties except a scam artist.
Me like a dummy was so tempted by a new Lowe HF-250 last week, I was ready
to send off cash to some guy in Germany for it. Yes he had great feedback,
but as much as I wanted the rig, and even watched acution to completion, I
never bid on it.

So if they don't take a credit cards, and the radio is over $80, then no go.

Lucky

A few weeks ago,I wanted to buy something from www.geeks.com
geeks.com doesn't have a toll free phone number (if they have one
now,they didn't have one a few weeks ago and I will not waste my time to
check out their website again) and they only had a few of the items in
stock.So I emailed geeks.com about the item I wanted to buy.I never did
get an email reply from geeks.com Any company like that,that doesn't at
least have a toll free phone number is not worth dong business with,in
my opinion.I understand all the jazz about toll free phone numbers and
perhaps geeks.com can't have somebody sitting around there to pick up
the phone to reply to a toll free phone call,but if they can reply to a
local or long distance non toll free phone call,they can certainly reply
to a toll free phone call,it doesn't cost all that much money to have a
toll free phone number.geeks.com lost a sale of about $85.00 to me.
cuhulin

What is it called if somebody puts something (a radio,for instance) on
ebay and starts a bidding price and then he or she uses a different name
at a different computer with a different IP address? To keep driving up
the price more than the item or items are worth.Does that sort of thing
happen much on ebay? Frankly,I dont like auctions at all.
cuhulin

I might be incorrect, but it looks like the guy bid against himself. It
seems this might be his first time bidding in an auction on EBay.

He obviously has his heart set on getting this radio!

Lee

"Lee Smith" wrote in message
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I might be incorrect, but it looks like the guy bid against himself. It
seems this might be his first time bidding in an auction on EBay.

He obviously has his heart set on getting this radio!

Can't bid against yourself. (unless you're using two accounts). You can
keep raising your bid, but the bid that shows is only the one that beats the
last bid of the other bidder.

What I suspect is happening is that the other bidder (whom he topped with
his last bid) was 'feeling' for his high bid to try to get the bid as
cheaply as he could. I've done this myself (usually unsuccessfully).

"Unrevealed Source" wrote in message
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I believe the play here is that the shills bid it up, then the seller
contacts the next-highest bidder and offers to sell it off eBay (since the
high bidder "backed out"), for that seller's high bid. That way, there
is
no PayPal buyer protection or negative feedback that can be left.


"Frank Bals" wrote in message
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$510 and no photo with the frequency display on? I would want to see it
for
that kind of money.....



"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Unrevealed Source wrote:

For a collector, I could see $300, or MAYBE even $400. These two
brand-new
ebay members have bid this up to over $500! No way this is real, or
at
least these are not bids by people that know anything about the used
radio
market.

I just love it when someone sees shill bidding around every corner,
under
every rock and behind every
tree.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm







I didn't think of that. Very astute on your part and I think it would work
rather well if the other person goes for it. I wouldn't . I want some sort
of protection at those prices.

Lucky