"David" wrote in message ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/nyregion/10civil.html

August 10, 2005
U.S. Defends Detentions at Airports
By NINA BERNSTEIN
Foreign citizens who change planes at airports in the United States
can legally be seized, detained without charges, deprived of access to
a lawyer or the courts, and even denied basic necessities like food,
lawyers for the government said in Brooklyn federal court yesterday.
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who in the hell cares???? why do you post this BS on a
radio newsgroup??????



Even if they are wrongly or illegally designated inadmissible, the
government's papers say, such aliens have at most a right against
"gross physical abuse."

Under immigration law, Ms. Mason asserted, Mr. Arar was afforded
"ample" due process when he was given five days to challenge an order
finding him inadmissible.

"The burden of proof is on the alien to demonstrate his
admissibility," Ms. Mason said, "and he did not do that."

"Yes, all have to show admissibility," Ms. Mason replied. In some
ways, she asserted, Mr. Arar had more rights than a United States
citizen, because he could have challenged his deportation to Syria,
which he had left as a teenager, under the Convention Against Torture.
He also had 30 days to challenge his removal, she said.
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That says it all. Boy Im crying real tears after reading this.

J

With the gun related crimes data base showing that the source of guns used
in crimes in Canada coming from the US, perhaps anyone trying to smuggle a
gun in their motorhome on a trip through Canada to Alaska should be
identified immediately as a terrorist and flown involuntarily to a Cuban
jail, with info to his government provided to him after he's gone. Of
course, this would not happen in a democracy with checks and balances and a
constitution would it?

The Arar story can be heard on radio as it unfolds if you wish to listen.

nospam wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/nyregion/10civil.html

August 10, 2005
U.S. Defends Detentions at Airports
By NINA BERNSTEIN
Foreign citizens who change planes at airports in the United States
can legally be seized, detained without charges, deprived of access to
a lawyer or the courts, and even denied basic necessities like food,
lawyers for the government said in Brooklyn federal court yesterday.

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{other bs snipped}

who in the hell cares???? why do you post this BS on a
radio newsgroup??????



Even if they are wrongly or illegally designated inadmissible, the
government's papers say, such aliens have at most a right against
"gross physical abuse."

Under immigration law, Ms. Mason asserted, Mr. Arar was afforded
"ample" due process when he was given five days to challenge an order
finding him inadmissible.

"The burden of proof is on the alien to demonstrate his
admissibility," Ms. Mason said, "and he did not do that."

"Yes, all have to show admissibility," Ms. Mason replied. In some
ways, she asserted, Mr. Arar had more rights than a United States
citizen, because he could have challenged his deportation to Syria,
which he had left as a teenager, under the Convention Against Torture.
He also had 30 days to challenge his removal, she said.

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That says it all. Boy Im crying real tears after reading this.

J

War taking toll on Miss. www.clarionledger.com We are fighting the
terrorist and terrorism.y'all mealy mouth Cowards,just get out of the
way! www.devilfinder.com World War Two
cuhulin

"uncle arnie" wrote
With the gun related crimes data base showing that the source of guns used
in crimes in Canada coming from the US, perhaps anyone trying to smuggle a
gun in their motorhome on a trip through Canada to Alaska should be
identified immediately as a terrorist and flown involuntarily to a Cuban
jail, with info to his government provided to him after he's gone. Of
course, this would not happen in a democracy with checks and balances and
a
constitution would it?

Yes it would. Smuggling a gun is a serious crime and a stupid one.