Every once in a while I think about getting an antenna for MW DXing.
I've read that the Kiwa Loop is fantastic, but because MW isn't my
primary interest, I can't see paying the hefty price for a Kiwa.

Not quite as expensive is the Quantum QX and QX Pro loops. I've heard
that these are good, but how good are they, really? How would they
compare to the Kiwa loop?

Steve

wrote:
Every once in a while I think about getting an antenna for MW DXing.
I've read that the Kiwa Loop is fantastic, but because MW isn't my
primary interest, I can't see paying the hefty price for a Kiwa.

Not quite as expensive is the Quantum QX and QX Pro loops. I've heard
that these are good, but how good are they, really? How would they
compare to the Kiwa loop?

Steve

Having owned both, I would say the QX Pro and the Kiwa are a toss up,
the QX Pro having the edge for LF reception. The nulls seem to be
slightly better for the QX Pro on MW. The Standard QX Loop has a
smaller head (shorter ferrite bars) and is not as effective on weak MW
stations as the Kiwa and QX Pro. The price for the QX Pro is attractive
vs. the going E-Pay prices for the Kiwa.

Les Locklear
Gulfport, MS.

I own both, and find the Kiwa to be better for MW. The nulls seem
sharper and the ability to tilt the loop (I think it's called azimuth?)
helps in nulling skywaves. The QX-PRO is smaller, thus easier to find a
spot for. The Kiwa doesn't receive LW, so of course the QX-PRO has the
LW advantage. Both are great antennas and you can't go wrong with
either one.

If memory serves, neither are manufactured any more.

Somebody Somewhere wrote:

I own both, and find the Kiwa to be better for MW. The nulls seem
sharper and the ability to tilt the loop (I think it's called azimuth?)

That would be altitude or elevation. Azimuth is the compass bearing or direction
the signal comes from.


helps in nulling skywaves. The QX-PRO is smaller, thus easier to find a
spot for. The Kiwa doesn't receive LW, so of course the QX-PRO has the
LW advantage. Both are great antennas and you can't go wrong with
either one.

If memory serves, neither are manufactured any more.

Heck,they are not being manufactured anymore? Gone just like Oldsmobile
Automobiles,(the oldest or one of the oldest Auto outfits in U.S.A.
www.devilfinder.com History of Oldsmobile There is much more
History concerning Oldsmobile and Oldsmobile connected to other
U.S.Automobile Companies than y'all realize,same with Dodge.Oldsmobile
used to build Trucks too,I have seen one of them here in Jackson
before,many years ago) witch are very,very good Automobiles,in my
opinion.A neighbor across the street from me owns two 1996
Oldsmobiles,very nice cars,they are too.General Motors Corporation
messed up.
cuhulin

The Quantum Loop antennas and accessories are still being manufactured.
See http://www.dxtools.com/

wrote:

Every once in a while I think about getting an antenna for MW DXing.
I've read that the Kiwa Loop is fantastic, but because MW isn't my
primary interest, I can't see paying the hefty price for a Kiwa.

Not quite as expensive is the Quantum QX and QX Pro loops. I've heard
that these are good, but how good are they, really? How would they
compare to the Kiwa loop?

Steve

I currently own both the the KIWA and Quantum QX Pro. My experience using
these antennas parallels Les Locklear's experience but there are some
differences that, in my opinion, make the QX Pro slightly better than the
KIWA. I find that the QX Pro doesn't overload on strong local MW signals
whereas my KIWA would often create a harmonic or mixing product on a
strong local signal. The QX Pro has some useful functions that the KIWA
doesn't have such a q-spoil control and attachment site for a longwire
antenna that allows full utilization of all the Pro's controls. This
makes a world of difference since I like to try phasing signals to see if
that gets me the best possible reception.

Your mileage may vary when pitting these 2 antennas against each other.
They are both excellent antennas but if cost is a factor then go with the
QX Pro.

JB

John Barnard wrote:

The QX Pro has some useful functions that the KIWA
doesn't have such a q-spoil control

Doesn't the "DX/Local" switch on the Kiwa preamp box (on the loop) work this
way? I haven't tested it using a phaser yet, but in the local setting the
preamp introduces some degenerative feedback, and it really opens up the
loop's bandwidth.

If you've a phaser handy, does this sufficiently spoil the loop Q enough to
work with the Kiwa into it?

Could you test it?

Rick Kunath

Steve,