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Old October 19th 05, 11:23 PM
 
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- Easier for someone to build a better box than reproduce 20 year old
technology IMHO..

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Old October 19th 05, 11:36 PM
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In article ,
wrote:
I guess Sony could start reproducing the Sony 2010's again if they
wanted to,,,, assuming parts are still available,and I believe they
are.Sony could dress them up in a new plastic dress though and perhaps
add one or two other features.The Sony 2020's perhaps?


Not likely. The 2010 was an odd design. Sony had dropped the ICF-2001
design in favor of the smaller ICF-2002. When they finaly realized that
the 100's of AM-Stereo receivers they were selling a year would never
use up their supply of decoder chips, they looked for an alternate
solution.

What they came up with was the ICF-2010. It was a much improved ICF-2001,
with the AM stereo decoder chip used as a sync detector. A brilliant idea,
they ICF-2010 sold like hot cakes when it first came out (around 1986-87)
and was still sold well into this decade.

However they eventualy ran out of chips. To make a replacement would require
the development of a new sync detector chip. This would push the price of
a 2020 as you called it well over $500 a unit.

Actualy at that price it would be a bargain, I paid close to $400 for a
2010, air freighted from Japan before they were available in the U.S. Of
that over $350 was for the receiver in 1987 dollars. In 2005 dollars, it
would be a lot more.

How many people would buy a radio at that price? Certainly enough to
make it the talk of this newsgroup. But would it be enough to pay
of the development costs?

Geoff.


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Old October 19th 05, 11:49 PM
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Default Replacement for the Sony ICF-2010 and ICF-SW77 Radios - Think the new Etón E1 AM/FM Shortwave Receiver with XM Satellite Radio !

CLU,

If you are interested in a 'replacement' for the Sony ICF-2010
and Sony ICF-SW77 Radios :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...o/message/1531
THINK {Consider} the new Etón E1 AM/FM Shortwave Receiver
with XM Satellite Radio.

You should "Read" the Review of the Etón E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio
- by Jay Allen on Radio Intel .Com
http://www.radiointel.com/review-etone1.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...o/message/1528
He compares the Etón E1 Radio to :
* Sony ICF-SW77 { Discontinued }
* Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium { Still Being Made }
* Sony ICF-2010 { The Legend - But No Longer Being Made }

Also - Another Must Read Is -Dr. Phils Side-by-Side Comparison of the
Etón E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio with the Grundig Satellit 800 Radio.
http://www.radiointel.com/phil/e1xmvssat800.pdf
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...o/message/1530
- - - Hosted by Radio Intel .Com
.
All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the
ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/
Where the Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver
with XM Satellite Radio. = http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
.
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what more can i say - e1'ing you all ~ RHF
ETON E1 = http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
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www.devilfinder.com History of Watkins Johnson Radios

I don't see how any Radios can be better than Watkins Johnson
Radios,regardless of price.
cuhulin

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Old October 20th 05, 12:22 AM
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I don't see how any Radios can be better than Watkins Johnson
Radios,regardless of price.
cuhulin

The Harris RF-series get very high marks. I have been thinking about
getting an RF-550 for awhile now. It wouldn't be a portable, alas...
;-)

Bruce Jensen



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Old October 20th 05, 12:58 AM
 
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Default Replacement for the Sony ICF-2010 and ICF-SW77 Radios - Thinkt...

I will wait untill I can buy one for two dollars at the Goodwill thrift
store,six tenths of a mile South of my Blueberry doggys couch.
cuhulin

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Old October 20th 05, 01:00 AM
 
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I like big radios with lots of breathing room in them.
cuhulin

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Old October 20th 05, 01:06 AM
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Default sony 2010 - what replaced it?

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

However they eventualy ran out of chips. To make a replacement would require
the development of a new sync detector chip. This would push the price of
a 2020 as you called it well over $500 a unit.



I don't buy that story. They could run another lot of the chips if the
process was still available, or use a newer chip like the one in the 7600GR.

There are other components that may not have been available. But Sony
has a suitable sync detector chip still in production.

craigm
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:01:02 -0500, wrote:

www.devilfinder.com History of Watkins Johnson Radios

I don't see how any Radios can be better than Watkins Johnson
Radios,regardless of price.
cuhulin

http://radio.tentec.com/Commercial/RX340

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Old October 20th 05, 01:32 AM
 
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Building chips in mass quantitys doesn't cost much money per each
chip.Look at the chips in your computer.It isn't as if they would need
to design a completly new chip,in my opinion.All they would need to do
is start another run of chips.
cuhulin

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