In article ,
matt weber wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:33:19 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:
Before satellites the Defense Department was able to send several
teletype channels at at time, maritime mobile. That was with a big dish
and probably 10's of kilowatts. (The best description of using that
equipment, that I've seen, was in a description of the incident where the
USS Liberty, the radio intelligence ship, was attacked by the Israelis.
In the Atlantic Monthly about 10-15 years ago, as I remember).

Yes, but that wasn't moonbounce, it was tropo scatter. YOu can only
use Moonbounce when the moon is visible to both ends. Troposcatter
works just about anytime, anywhere. The change in permittivity at the
top of the toposphere will actually bounce a tiny portion of the
microwave signal back down quite reliably. You can get about 600
miles that way. But you need the sort of big dish, and tens of
kilowatts to do it reliably. Only the military could really afford to
use it.

No, the article specifically stated that it was moonbounce and gave a
DOD rig designation, along with a remark that it was unreliable and a pain
to keep running, especially as they had a limited schedule for contact.
(For the radio intelligence ships, the goal would be to get their
intercepts to NSA headquarters at Fort Detrick in Maryland with as few
intermediaries as possilble).

Somewhere else, Monitoring Times I think, there was a description of
a Washington, DC - Pearl Harbor moonbounce link, so it got used
for fixed point connections, too. Given the expense, this sort of
stuff was probably only used by the highest priority traffic in the
DOD teletype network (AUTODIN?). Encrypted up the yazoo and anybody
who knew about it had their lips sewn shut.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

I wonder if Moonbounce had anything to do with www.kagnewstation.com
in Africa.Luke lives in Hattiesburg,Mississippi and he sometimes post at
www.pipelinenews.org (it might be a dot com) and he worked in
deciphering radio messages at Kagnew Station.Although Kagnew Station
was/is U.S.Army.
cuhulin

USS Liberty was attacked by Israel.Some of the "people" in cahoots with
U.S.fed govt attacking America are the Zionist Jews and Mossad.I used to
have some sympathy for Israel many years ago,about fifty five years
ago,because of the Holocaust,,,, LOOK! even the Vatican did NOT do
anything to help prevent the Holocaust when the Vatican could have.y'all
want to argue with me about that! Years ago,I showed Lucianne Goldberg
(Lucianne Goldberg,,, [[[[GoldTurd]]] she got her start by writing a
trio of novels about high class prostitutes,, go look it up for
y'allselfs if y'all don't believe me)
Let me be the prez,, BYE,BYE Israel and the whole middle East!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin

Go to a mens public toilet,if a Jew is in there,he is going to look at
your d..k to see if you are circumcised.For the record,,,, I still have
"mine",, Ladies.
cuhulin

To HELL!!! with them Damn Jews!!!!!,,,,,, I Say,,, Waste Them
All!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:33:19 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article , SR wrote:
The last few evening the moon was almost full and the evening sky was
fairly clear here in New York. I then transmitted on my CB but no DX
only locals.

I read something somewhere that mention about Moon Bouncing. Meaning
that a signal can travel far. But I am not sure if that is true.

It's a VHF and microwave thing. You actually illuminate the Moon
with enough power that another station back on Earth can pick up
the reflection. But that requires an antenna that can focus most
of your power on the Moon, a target only 1/2 degree across. Hams,
with 1 kilowatt, can get morse code and slow digital signals (on the
higher bands).

Back in the 60s or so, there was a TV program where a panel
was supposed to guess a guest's secret. For one guest, they said that
there was a special condition -- the guest's answer to a question
would be delayed a number of seconds. The secret was that the answer
was being moon-bounced.



Before satellites the Defense Department was able to send several
teletype channels at at time, maritime mobile. That was with a big dish
and probably 10's of kilowatts. (The best description of using that
equipment, that I've seen, was in a description of the incident where the
USS Liberty, the radio intelligence ship, was attacked by the Israelis.
In the Atlantic Monthly about 10-15 years ago, as I remember).

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

What's My Line?,,, tv series.I used to watch that tv program back in the
1950's.I don't know if it ran into the 1960's or not,I was busy in the
Army and other things.
USS Liberty was busy defending itself against those damn Israelies at
one time.It is tough about the Holocaust,but if I had been the prez back
then,Israel would Cease to Exist!!!
cuhulin

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:58:46 -0500, wrote:

What's My Line?,,,

Close. I just remembered -- the show was I've Got a Secret.

tv series.I used to watch that tv program back in the
1950's.I don't know if it ran into the 1960's or not,I was busy in the
Army and other things.
USS Liberty was busy defending itself against those damn Israelies at
one time.It is tough about the Holocaust,but if I had been the prez back
then,Israel would Cease to Exist!!!
cuhulin