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the church of bush
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:18:15 -0500, dxAce
wrote: Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? All of this comes just as former Marine Corps General and former CENTCOM commander Anthony Zinni has begun to speak out about the war in Iraq. Zinni is the subject of a multiple page article in the Washington Post in which he says "If I'm ever in a position to say what I think is right, I will. . . . I don't care what happens to my career." Zinni is indeed telling it like it is. To quote the Post: "Iraq is in serious danger of coming apart because of lack of planning, underestimating the task and buying into a flawed strategy," he says. "The longer we stubbornly resist admitting the mistakes and not altering our approach, the harder it will be to pull this chestnut out of the fire." Apparently the time that Zinni turned against the Bush Administration (he endorsed Bush in the 2000 election) was when he saw Vice President Dick Cheney speak to a VFW convention. "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction," Cheney said. "There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Cheney's certitude bewildered Zinni. As chief of the Central Command, Zinni had been immersed in U.S. intelligence about Iraq. He was all too familiar with the intelligence analysts' doubts about Iraq's programs to acquire weapons of mass destruction, or WMD. "In my time at Centcom, I watched the intelligence, and never -- not once -- did it say, 'He has WMD.' " That's right. Zinni says that "never ‹ not once ‹ did [the intelligence] say, 'He has WMD.'" It was uncertain. It was always uncertain. Once Cheney left the stage Zinni was conviced of two things: first, that the Bush Administration was determined to invade and occupy Iraq. And, second, "These guys don't understand what they are getting into." (http://www.warblogging.com/archives/000781.php Yep and even though uncertain one has to make a decision. Had President Bush not made the decision that he did, and Hussein did use WMD's then you stupid Liberals would be bitching about that and asking why nothing was done. There's no pleasing you Kool-Aid drinkers. dxAce Michigan USA Point well put! It would have been the United States fault for not doing anything and I guarantee you that Canada would have done nothing as usual. Usenet'Hole List --------------------------------- chicken little and his mom!, |
the church of bush
Greg wrote: From: dxAce Organization: The Listener at the Gates of Dawn Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:17:42 -0500 Subject: the church of bush Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? The Associated Press PANAMA CITY, Panama Nov 7, 2005 ‹ President Bush vigorously defended U.S. interrogation practices in the war on terror Monday and lobbied against a congressional drive to outlaw torture. "There's an enemy that lurks and plots and plans and wants to hurt America again," Bush said. "So you bet we will aggressively pursue them but we will do so under the law." He declared, "We do not torture." 'Tard boy liberals such as yourself would rather give the terrorists some milk, cookies and a pat on the head. Actually, I would prefer to have seen Osama killed or captured and Al Qaeda destroyed in Afghanistan. But, like you, our commander-in-chief has a small attention span. As to operating torture camps - isn't that what we're supposed to be opposed to? Guess it depends on what is considered 'torture'. As I said, 'Tard boy liberals such as yourself would rather give the terrorists some milk, cookies and a pat on the head. Run along now, boy, and practice those listening skills. dxAce Michigan USA |
the church of bush
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:48:41 GMT, Greg wrote:
From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? On Thursday, President Bush claimed that: "Nearly 100,000 fully trained and equipped Iraqi soldiers, police officers, and other security personnel are working today." *- President Bush, Press Conference, Sept. 23, 2004 However, the Pentagon said last Monday that of these ³nearly 100,000 fully trained and equipped Iraqi soldiers² only about 53,000 Iraqi troops have undergone training. In addition, Reuters reports that of the nearly 90,000 Iraqis currently in the police force, only 8,169 have had the full eight-week academy training. And it will be July 2006 before the administration's new goal of 135,000 fully trained police is met. Greg Did you ever stop to think that there were some trained Iraqi soldiers before the war started? We did not kill them all you know. Do you think that the Pentagon might have meant that we have only trained 53K? Usenet'Hole List --------------------------------- chicken little and his mom!, |
the church of bush
Beerbarrel wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:17:13 GMT, Greg wrote: From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:46:55 GMT, Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? All of this comes just as former Marine Corps General and former CENTCOM commander Anthony Zinni has begun to speak out about the war in Iraq. Zinni is the subject of a multiple page article in the Washington Post in which he says "If I'm ever in a position to say what I think is right, I will. . . . I don't care what happens to my career." Zinni is indeed telling it like it is. To quote the Post: "Iraq is in serious danger of coming apart because of lack of planning, underestimating the task and buying into a flawed strategy," he says. "The longer we stubbornly resist admitting the mistakes and not altering our approach, the harder it will be to pull this chestnut out of the fire." Apparently the time that Zinni turned against the Bush Administration (he endorsed Bush in the 2000 election) was when he saw Vice President Dick Cheney speak to a VFW convention. "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction," Cheney said. "There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Cheney's certitude bewildered Zinni. As chief of the Central Command, Zinni had been immersed in U.S. intelligence about Iraq. He was all too familiar with the intelligence analysts' doubts about Iraq's programs to acquire weapons of mass destruction, or WMD. "In my time at Centcom, I watched the intelligence, and never -- not once -- did it say, 'He has WMD.' " That's right. Zinni says that "never ‹ not once ‹ did [the intelligence] say, 'He has WMD.'" It was uncertain. It was always uncertain. Once Cheney left the stage Zinni was conviced of two things: first, that the Bush Administration was determined to invade and occupy Iraq. And, second, "These guys don't understand what they are getting into." (http://www.warblogging.com/archives/000781.php Greg Why does it always have to be WMD's with you guys? You all seem to forget the other hundred reasons that we should have kicked his butt! The subject is Bush's lies. Try to keep up. Greg Why don't you just answer the question instead of avoiding it? Because the Liberal 'tards are fixated on WMD's. I know a fellow here who manages to bring up WMD's in every other sentence. It reminds me of a one time friend with whom it became impossible to carry on a conversation with because every other sentence that came out of his mouth had to do with Y2K and the gloom and doom that was to follow. dxAce Michigan USA |
the church of bush
From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:28:30 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:17:13 GMT, Greg wrote: From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:46:55 GMT, Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? All of this comes just as former Marine Corps General and former CENTCOM commander Anthony Zinni has begun to speak out about the war in Iraq. Zinni is the subject of a multiple page article in the Washington Post in which he says "If I'm ever in a position to say what I think is right, I will. . . . I don't care what happens to my career." Zinni is indeed telling it like it is. To quote the Post: "Iraq is in serious danger of coming apart because of lack of planning, underestimating the task and buying into a flawed strategy," he says. "The longer we stubbornly resist admitting the mistakes and not altering our approach, the harder it will be to pull this chestnut out of the fire." Apparently the time that Zinni turned against the Bush Administration (he endorsed Bush in the 2000 election) was when he saw Vice President Dick Cheney speak to a VFW convention. "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction," Cheney said. "There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Cheney's certitude bewildered Zinni. As chief of the Central Command, Zinni had been immersed in U.S. intelligence about Iraq. He was all too familiar with the intelligence analysts' doubts about Iraq's programs to acquire weapons of mass destruction, or WMD. "In my time at Centcom, I watched the intelligence, and never -- not once -- did it say, 'He has WMD.' " That's right. Zinni says that "never ‹ not once ‹ did [the intelligence] say, 'He has WMD.'" It was uncertain. It was always uncertain. Once Cheney left the stage Zinni was conviced of two things: first, that the Bush Administration was determined to invade and occupy Iraq. And, second, "These guys don't understand what they are getting into." (http://www.warblogging.com/archives/000781.php Greg Why does it always have to be WMD's with you guys? You all seem to forget the other hundred reasons that we should have kicked his butt! The subject is Bush's lies. Try to keep up. Greg Why don't you just answer the question instead of avoiding it? Are you drunk? Greg |
the church of bush
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:26:20 GMT, Greg wrote:
From: dxAce Organization: The Listener at the Gates of Dawn Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:17:42 -0500 Subject: the church of bush Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? The Associated Press PANAMA CITY, Panama Nov 7, 2005 ‹ President Bush vigorously defended U.S. interrogation practices in the war on terror Monday and lobbied against a congressional drive to outlaw torture. "There's an enemy that lurks and plots and plans and wants to hurt America again," Bush said. "So you bet we will aggressively pursue them but we will do so under the law." He declared, "We do not torture." 'Tard boy liberals such as yourself would rather give the terrorists some milk, cookies and a pat on the head. dxAce Michigan USA Actually, I would prefer to have seen Osama killed or captured and Al Qaeda destroyed in Afghanistan. But, like you, our commander-in-chief has a small attention span. As to operating torture camps - isn't that what we're supposed to be opposed to? Greg Actually, I don't think making people pose naked is torture, but the liberal media got the attention of all the bleeding heart liberals. It was the only way they had to fight back. They whined about some naked pictures. What happened to the Jews at the hands of the Nazis, that was torture. Usenet'Hole List --------------------------------- chicken little and his mom!, |
the church of bush
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:36:17 GMT, Greg wrote:
From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:28:30 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:17:13 GMT, Greg wrote: From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:46:55 GMT, Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? All of this comes just as former Marine Corps General and former CENTCOM commander Anthony Zinni has begun to speak out about the war in Iraq. Zinni is the subject of a multiple page article in the Washington Post in which he says "If I'm ever in a position to say what I think is right, I will. . . . I don't care what happens to my career." Zinni is indeed telling it like it is. To quote the Post: "Iraq is in serious danger of coming apart because of lack of planning, underestimating the task and buying into a flawed strategy," he says. "The longer we stubbornly resist admitting the mistakes and not altering our approach, the harder it will be to pull this chestnut out of the fire." Apparently the time that Zinni turned against the Bush Administration (he endorsed Bush in the 2000 election) was when he saw Vice President Dick Cheney speak to a VFW convention. "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction," Cheney said. "There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Cheney's certitude bewildered Zinni. As chief of the Central Command, Zinni had been immersed in U.S. intelligence about Iraq. He was all too familiar with the intelligence analysts' doubts about Iraq's programs to acquire weapons of mass destruction, or WMD. "In my time at Centcom, I watched the intelligence, and never -- not once -- did it say, 'He has WMD.' " That's right. Zinni says that "never ‹ not once ‹ did [the intelligence] say, 'He has WMD.'" It was uncertain. It was always uncertain. Once Cheney left the stage Zinni was conviced of two things: first, that the Bush Administration was determined to invade and occupy Iraq. And, second, "These guys don't understand what they are getting into." (http://www.warblogging.com/archives/000781.php Greg Why does it always have to be WMD's with you guys? You all seem to forget the other hundred reasons that we should have kicked his butt! The subject is Bush's lies. Try to keep up. Greg Why don't you just answer the question instead of avoiding it? Are you drunk? Greg I guess I made my point with you. You have no answer. Usenet'Hole List --------------------------------- chicken little and his mom!, |
the church of bush
Greg wrote: From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:28:30 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:17:13 GMT, Greg wrote: From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:46:55 GMT, Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? All of this comes just as former Marine Corps General and former CENTCOM commander Anthony Zinni has begun to speak out about the war in Iraq. Zinni is the subject of a multiple page article in the Washington Post in which he says "If I'm ever in a position to say what I think is right, I will. . . . I don't care what happens to my career." Zinni is indeed telling it like it is. To quote the Post: "Iraq is in serious danger of coming apart because of lack of planning, underestimating the task and buying into a flawed strategy," he says. "The longer we stubbornly resist admitting the mistakes and not altering our approach, the harder it will be to pull this chestnut out of the fire." Apparently the time that Zinni turned against the Bush Administration (he endorsed Bush in the 2000 election) was when he saw Vice President Dick Cheney speak to a VFW convention. "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction," Cheney said. "There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Cheney's certitude bewildered Zinni. As chief of the Central Command, Zinni had been immersed in U.S. intelligence about Iraq. He was all too familiar with the intelligence analysts' doubts about Iraq's programs to acquire weapons of mass destruction, or WMD. "In my time at Centcom, I watched the intelligence, and never -- not once -- did it say, 'He has WMD.' " That's right. Zinni says that "never ‹ not once ‹ did [the intelligence] say, 'He has WMD.'" It was uncertain. It was always uncertain. Once Cheney left the stage Zinni was conviced of two things: first, that the Bush Administration was determined to invade and occupy Iraq. And, second, "These guys don't understand what they are getting into." (http://www.warblogging.com/archives/000781.php Greg Why does it always have to be WMD's with you guys? You all seem to forget the other hundred reasons that we should have kicked his butt! The subject is Bush's lies. Try to keep up. Greg Why don't you just answer the question instead of avoiding it? Are you drunk? Another 'Classic' 'tard boy response. LMAO dxAce Michigan USA |
the church of bush
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:39:33 -0500, dxAce
wrote: Greg wrote: From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:28:30 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:17:13 GMT, Greg wrote: From: Beerbarrel Organization: Cox Communications Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: the church of bush On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:46:55 GMT, Greg wrote: From: clifto Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:52 -0600 Subject: the church of bush John Barnard wrote: The war started with lies Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies? All of this comes just as former Marine Corps General and former CENTCOM commander Anthony Zinni has begun to speak out about the war in Iraq. Zinni is the subject of a multiple page article in the Washington Post in which he says "If I'm ever in a position to say what I think is right, I will. . . . I don't care what happens to my career." Zinni is indeed telling it like it is. To quote the Post: "Iraq is in serious danger of coming apart because of lack of planning, underestimating the task and buying into a flawed strategy," he says. "The longer we stubbornly resist admitting the mistakes and not altering our approach, the harder it will be to pull this chestnut out of the fire." Apparently the time that Zinni turned against the Bush Administration (he endorsed Bush in the 2000 election) was when he saw Vice President Dick Cheney speak to a VFW convention. "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction," Cheney said. "There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Cheney's certitude bewildered Zinni. As chief of the Central Command, Zinni had been immersed in U.S. intelligence about Iraq. He was all too familiar with the intelligence analysts' doubts about Iraq's programs to acquire weapons of mass destruction, or WMD. "In my time at Centcom, I watched the intelligence, and never -- not once -- did it say, 'He has WMD.' " That's right. Zinni says that "never ‹ not once ‹ did [the intelligence] say, 'He has WMD.'" It was uncertain. It was always uncertain. Once Cheney left the stage Zinni was conviced of two things: first, that the Bush Administration was determined to invade and occupy Iraq. And, second, "These guys don't understand what they are getting into." (http://www.warblogging.com/archives/000781.php Greg Why does it always have to be WMD's with you guys? You all seem to forget the other hundred reasons that we should have kicked his butt! The subject is Bush's lies. Try to keep up. Greg Why don't you just answer the question instead of avoiding it? Are you drunk? Another 'Classic' 'tard boy response. LMAO dxAce Michigan USA I love these guys that just post links to some obscure news story. Do they actually have the ability to think critically for themselves. Barnard, Mike, Greg, David, and others they are all cut from the same mold I think. They remind me of a big turd swirling down the toilet. Do you think they make up this stuff as they are swirling side by side on the way down? Usenet'Hole List --------------------------------- chicken little and his mom!, |
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