an old friend wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

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Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with
excuses just like the one you presented all the time.

and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide
against you just not soon enough

The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
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an old friend wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

cut
Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code
come up with
excuses just like the one you presented all the time.

and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide
against you just not soon enough

The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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an old friend wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

cut
Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code
come up with
excuses just like the one you presented all the time.

and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide
against you just not soon enough

The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You sound like the atypical code snob Steve.

Nothing snobbish about it at all.

Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
You sound like the atypical code snob Steve.

Nothing snobbish about it at all.

Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it!

You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones
who know it.

"MnMikew" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
You sound like the atypical code snob Steve.

Nothing snobbish about it at all.

Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it!

You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that
ones
who know it.

A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when
the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all
they have to do is memorize the answers? I actually had to know something
about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice
ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to
send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech
Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to
'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have
studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

.. I started like most with a Novice
ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to
send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech
Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to
'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have
studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000.


That's why I think it's kinda unfair to lessen the requirements but CW will
be gone eventually. It's becoming a bygone era.

B.H.

Brenda Ann wrote:
"MnMikew" wrote in message
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"dxAce" wrote in message
...
You sound like the atypical code snob Steve.

Nothing snobbish about it at all.

Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it!

You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that
ones
who know it.

A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when
the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all
they have to do is memorize the answers?

You could substitute several difficult to learn but equally meaningless
tests for the cw test and still meet your requirement for challenging
new hams. For instance we could require hams send messages with
semaphore flags; or we could take them down a completely different path
and require that they exhibit a thorough knowlege of COBOL; or we could
require that they show proficiency in automobile transmission repair.


I actually had to know something
about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice
ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to
send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech
Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to
'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have
studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000.

Congratulations on passing the test. However to require that
meaningless test of new hams when there is no practical use for morse
code will do nothing more than drive prospective hams from the hobby.
Fortunately the FCC is finally realizing that the world of
communications has moved forward from the 1950's. It is time that many
members of the hobby do so as well.

"John S." wrote:

Brenda Ann wrote:
"MnMikew" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
You sound like the atypical code snob Steve.

Nothing snobbish about it at all.

Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it!

You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that
ones
who know it.

A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when
the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all
they have to do is memorize the answers?

You could substitute several difficult to learn but equally meaningless
tests for the cw test and still meet your requirement for challenging
new hams. For instance we could require hams send messages with
semaphore flags; or we could take them down a completely different path
and require that they exhibit a thorough knowlege of COBOL; or we could
require that they show proficiency in automobile transmission repair.

I actually had to know something
about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice
ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to
send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech
Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to
'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have
studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000.

Congratulations on passing the test. However to require that
meaningless test of new hams when there is no practical use for morse
code will do nothing more than drive prospective hams from the hobby.

It only serves to drive the whiners and complainers away. The doers will do what
it takes to obtain a license.

The whiners and complainers will sit on the sidelines with their thumbs up their
butts until things change in their favour.

That's the way it's always been in most any human endeavour. There are those who
can, those who can't, and there are those who are just plain lazy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Brenda Ann wrote:
"MnMikew" wrote in message
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You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that
ones
who know it.

A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when
the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all
they have to do is memorize the answers?

why is it suposed to be a chalenge TO get the license I see nothing
saying that in Part 97

does anybody have any text from any era saying it should eb a challange
to GET the license

the process of geting a license is NOT an exercise in S&M

you sound like many other

what would satify you

a flogging in a public square to show the new hams devotion to Ham
Radio
I actually had to know something
about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice
ticket and 5WPM code.

and yes you climb throug snow and broken glass on your hands and kness
uphill both ways