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I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into
actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your computer?? Also, does the general license still require that you pass Morse Code Exam first.?? I"m hearing lots of debate over that. Thanks. |
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" wrote: I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your computer?? Also, does the general license still require that you pass Morse Code Exam first.?? Yes, unfortunately it's only 5 WPM. dxAce Michigan USA |
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I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your computer?? Don't buy anything. Look around for antennas, ham radio license plates, and search the callsign directory (www.qrz.com) for hams in your area. Walk up to a few and introduce yourself. You may get a blank look, or a "I don't do that anymore", or "he dosen't live here" responses but on the whole you will find that hams a friendly bunch and will gladly show you their shack, and if you bring a copy of your license many will let you operate. Once you've done that, you can find clubs to join with stations you can use as a member, and hams that will help you learn (called elmers). They will help you shop around and find used gear where you can look at, see if it works and does what you want before you buy it. If you do want to buy something the first thing I would suggest is a 2 meter handytalkie (called a walkietalkie by nonhams). From there you can get on local repeaters and meet other hams and connect that way. Also, does the general license still require that you pass Morse Code Exam first.?? I"m hearing lots of debate over that. Thanks. Yes. Look up Code Quick. It will teach you to copy code in a few weeks. 73, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 The trouble with being a futurist is that when people get around to believing you, it's too late. We lost. Google 2,000,000:Hams 0. |
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"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote: wrote: I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your computer?? Don't buy anything. Look around for antennas, ham radio license plates, and search the callsign directory (www.qrz.com) for hams in your area. If he took the exam he must know some hams... ya think? It's not as if he pulled it out of a Cracker-Jack box. (Well, not quite) dxAce Michigan USA |
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dxAce wrote: "John S." wrote: cut Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide against you just not soon enough Thanks for sharing! dxAce Michigan USA |
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an old friend wrote: dxAce wrote: "John S." wrote: cut Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide against you just not soon enough The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts! dxAce Michigan USA |
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:30:23 -0500, dxAce
wrote: an old friend wrote: dxAce wrote: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote: wrote: I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your computer?? Don't buy anything. Look around for antennas, ham radio license plates, and search the callsign directory (www.qrz.com) for hams in your area. If he took the exam he must know some hams... ya think? It's not as if he pulled it out of a Cracker-Jack box. (Well, not quite) that is far from certain or rather far from certain that he knows some US hams Who gives the tests these days? dxAce Michigan USA Volunteer Examiners, or VEs. From the FCC site... Volunteer Examiners (VEs) are Amateur Extra Class radio operators who volunteer their time and talent to prepare and administer amateur radio operator license examinations. The examination for a Technician Class operator license grant is also prepared and administered by Advanced and General Class operators. Advanced Class licensees may also prepare and administer General Class license examinations. A VE is a person at least 18 years of age whose license has never been revoked or suspended. Your close relatives, however, cannot be your VEs. Each VE, moreover, has been accredited by a Volunteer-Examiner Coordinator (VEC), an organization that exists for the purpose of furthering the amateur service. Contact a VE team in your community to make arrangements for being administered the examination elements you desire. The VE teams make public announcement stating the location and time of each examination session. If you need assistance in finding a VE team in your area, contact a VEC. bob k5qwg |
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Bob Miller wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:30:23 -0500, dxAce wrote: an old friend wrote: dxAce wrote: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote: wrote: I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your computer?? Don't buy anything. Look around for antennas, ham radio license plates, and search the callsign directory (www.qrz.com) for hams in your area. If he took the exam he must know some hams... ya think? It's not as if he pulled it out of a Cracker-Jack box. (Well, not quite) that is far from certain or rather far from certain that he knows some US hams Who gives the tests these days? dxAce Michigan USA Volunteer Examiners, or VEs. From the FCC site... Volunteer Examiners (VEs) are Amateur Extra Class radio operators who volunteer their time and talent to prepare and administer amateur radio operator license examinations. The examination for a Technician Class operator license grant is also prepared and administered by Advanced and General Class operators. Advanced Class licensees may also prepare and administer General Class license examinations. A VE is a person at least 18 years of age whose license has never been revoked or suspended. Your close relatives, however, cannot be your VEs. Each VE, moreover, has been accredited by a Volunteer-Examiner Coordinator (VEC), an organization that exists for the purpose of furthering the amateur service. Contact a VE team in your community to make arrangements for being administered the examination elements you desire. The VE teams make public announcement stating the location and time of each examination session. If you need assistance in finding a VE team in your area, contact a VEC. Yes, I was aware of that. I was asking a rhetorical question. Please, try to follow the thread. dxAce Michigan USA |
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dxAce wrote:
Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. No matter what you think it's going to happen. The best thing you can do IMHO, is to help make the new no-code hams comfortable in the hobby. If you feel that morse code is an essential part of ham radio, teach morse code classes. Listen on the Novice/tech CW bands. Next time you hear a bad sounding CQ at barely five wpm, don't sneer and move on, work the guy. Do it slowly, carefully and curteously. If you want to have new hams stay hams and to use CW, make them feel good about it. Next time you talk to someone on a repeater who is a new ham, offer to elmer them. You can start with CW and move up to building an oscilator that they can use to key their HT. That kills two birds with one stone to use an archaic and cruel sounding metaphor. They get to learn CW over the air for a small expense and learn the joy of building something they can use. BTW both Japan and the Soviet Union had no code HF licenses since the 1950s, and no one ever seemed to mind. 73, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 The trouble with being a futurist is that when people get around to believing you, it's too late. We lost. Google 2,000,000:Hams 0. |
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"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote: dxAce wrote: Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. No matter what you think it's going to happen. Yep, the process of "dumbing down" marches on. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... an old friend wrote: dxAce wrote: "John S." wrote: cut Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide against you just not soon enough The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts! dxAce Michigan USA You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. |
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Typeing (Keying) words on computer keyboards shouldn't be any more
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
dxAce wrote: Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. No matter what you think it's going to happen. The best thing you can do IMHO, is to help make the new no-code hams comfortable in the hobby. If you feel that morse code is an essential part of ham radio, teach morse code classes. Listen on the Novice/tech CW bands. Next time you hear a bad sounding CQ at barely five wpm, don't sneer and move on, work the guy. Do it slowly, carefully and curteously. If you want to have new hams stay hams and to use CW, make them feel good about it. Next time you talk to someone on a repeater who is a new ham, offer to elmer them. You can start with CW and move up to building an oscilator that they can use to key their HT. That kills two birds with one stone to use an archaic and cruel sounding metaphor. They get to learn CW over the air for a small expense and learn the joy of building something they can use. BTW both Japan and the Soviet Union had no code HF licenses since the 1950s, and no one ever seemed to mind. 73, Geoff. " BTW both Japan and the Soviet Union had no code HF licenses since the 1950s, and no one ever seemed to mind." Really? Thats encouraging to know, seeing as there are plenty of CW JA's to work. I guess they got interested in CW without being forced to learn it in order to get their tickets. Hopefully the same will hold true here in the U.S. if/when the FCC drops the code requirement altogether. CW = my primary mode - Matt |
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MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... an old friend wrote: dxAce wrote: "John S." wrote: cut Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide against you just not soon enough The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts! dxAce Michigan USA You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! dxAce Michigan USA |
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"John S." wrote in message oups.com... wrote: I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your computer?? Also, does the general license still require that you pass Morse Code Exam first.?? I"m hearing lots of debate over that. Thanks. Yes, unfortunately that pointless anachronism is still required of prospective hams for the general license. I can copy around 10wpm and I'm not a ham. It's not hard but it does take practice and a dedicated will to learn. Anybody can learn to copy 5wpm if the spend a week or two in their spare time. It helps if you have a person that knows CW helping you. Most radio clubs give classes. I don't understand why a ham wouldn't want to know it and gain full privileges? CW is kinda neat when you learn it and it is kinda a right of passage type thing. I wanted to learn it just to kinda know what was being said in that mode. B.H. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. |
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Yes, 5 wpm is not such a difficult task to master. There is a sense of
accomplishment getting the code ticket as with anything that takes a little effort. The fcc is just going to turn the HAM bands into another place for morons to hang out like 11m. There are arguments for code. It's more reliable and takes up a lot less bandwdth. N9NEO |
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Oh yea, ARRL has code practice schedule at www.arrl.org
I used that and NU-Morse to brush up before test. Nu-morse is awsum program that has 30 day free trial I think. 73 N9NEO |
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"N9NEO" wrote in message ups.com... The fcc is just going to turn the HAM bands into another place for morons to hang out like 11m. I listen to the ham bands all the time, there's no shortage of morons on there now. |
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"MnMikew" wrote in message I listen to the ham bands all the time, there's no shortage of morons on there now. I agree on that also. But there are allot more good than bad. It's just that it only takes a few bad apples to smell up the place. B.H. |
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"MnMikew" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all they have to do is memorize the answers? I actually had to know something about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to 'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000. |
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"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "MnMikew" wrote in message I listen to the ham bands all the time, there's no shortage of morons on there now. I agree on that also. But there are allot more good than bad. It's just that it only takes a few bad apples to smell up the place. Yes, but that's pretty much true for anything. I dont see how dropping code will be that big of a deal. |
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"MnMikew" wrote in message I dont see how dropping code will be that big of a deal. Probably not but I do understand why some hams don't want to do away with it. B.H. |
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message .. I started like most with a Novice ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to 'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000. That's why I think it's kinda unfair to lessen the requirements but CW will be gone eventually. It's becoming a bygone era. B.H. |
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dxAce wrote: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote: dxAce wrote: Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time. No matter what you think it's going to happen. Yep, the process of "dumbing down" marches on. meaning you will not do you job and promote a mode you value meaning if enough of the coders do the same Morse Code will die dxAce Michigan USA |
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Brenda Ann wrote: "MnMikew" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all they have to do is memorize the answers? You could substitute several difficult to learn but equally meaningless tests for the cw test and still meet your requirement for challenging new hams. For instance we could require hams send messages with semaphore flags; or we could take them down a completely different path and require that they exhibit a thorough knowlege of COBOL; or we could require that they show proficiency in automobile transmission repair. I actually had to know something about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to 'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000. Congratulations on passing the test. However to require that meaningless test of new hams when there is no practical use for morse code will do nothing more than drive prospective hams from the hobby. Fortunately the FCC is finally realizing that the world of communications has moved forward from the 1950's. It is time that many members of the hobby do so as well. |
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"John S." wrote: Brenda Ann wrote: "MnMikew" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all they have to do is memorize the answers? You could substitute several difficult to learn but equally meaningless tests for the cw test and still meet your requirement for challenging new hams. For instance we could require hams send messages with semaphore flags; or we could take them down a completely different path and require that they exhibit a thorough knowlege of COBOL; or we could require that they show proficiency in automobile transmission repair. I actually had to know something about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to 'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000. Congratulations on passing the test. However to require that meaningless test of new hams when there is no practical use for morse code will do nothing more than drive prospective hams from the hobby. It only serves to drive the whiners and complainers away. The doers will do what it takes to obtain a license. The whiners and complainers will sit on the sidelines with their thumbs up their butts until things change in their favour. That's the way it's always been in most any human endeavour. There are those who can, those who can't, and there are those who are just plain lazy. dxAce Michigan USA |
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Buzzygirl wrote:
"Johnny Borborigmi" wrote in message news:2006012319180827544%growl@tummycom... 99% of all hams are great people. That one percent hang out on one freq on 75m. Screw those dopes. Ah, yes... the "Pig Farmers." I've heard them. listened briefly, and decided to spin the VFO, ne'er to return. They really do reek up the band. 'Course there have been some 'nets on 40 meters whose participants' bacon seems to have slipped off'n their burgers, too. One thing I can say about my experience in communicating with CW ops is that they are top-notch when it comes to operating skills and consideration. I've never met one jerk on CW... I'm sure there might be some exceptions, but I've yet to meet one. Jackie I have to agree with you. Out of all of my CW contacts only a few have been impatient or irritable and that was only because they were contesting and I, being a newbie, was answering their contesting calls without or with wrong contest info. Otherwise, every CW op I work is very considerate and friendly. - Matt |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. Well yes, too dumb to learn the code, so I guess you are correct. Having no interest is not the same as being dumb. |
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Brian Denley wrote: Brenda Ann wrote: A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all they have to do is memorize the answers? I actually had to know something about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice ticket and 5WPM code. I taught it to myself by writing a BASIC program to send to myself using my old VIC20 computer. A month later, I got my Tech Plus ticket. I never could work my way up to 14WPM because I have to 'translate' in my head (like I do with all the human languages I have studied), so didn't get my General till April 2000. There was a time (not long ago) when you wouldn't have been allowed near a computer unless you knew 2s complement math and assembly language. Good thing the computer industry didn't follow the radio amateur method or this would be a real quiet newsgroup. not long ago? more than 20 years -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
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Brenda Ann wrote: "MnMikew" wrote in message ... cut You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. A large number are. What challenge is there to getting a ham license when the test pool questions are available to anyone that wants them, and all they have to do is memorize the answers? why is it suposed to be a chalenge TO get the license I see nothing saying that in Part 97 does anybody have any text from any era saying it should eb a challange to GET the license the process of geting a license is NOT an exercise in S&M you sound like many other what would satify you a flogging in a public square to show the new hams devotion to Ham Radio I actually had to know something about what I was doing to get my license. I started like most with a Novice ticket and 5WPM code. and yes you climb throug snow and broken glass on your hands and kness uphill both ways |
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MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. Well yes, too dumb to learn the code, so I guess you are correct. Having no interest is not the same as being dumb. Or lazy? At any rate, if one really wants the ticket 5 WPM shouldn't be a barrier. The ONLY barrier to learning 5 WPM is either being dumb or lazy. And the ONLY folks who would suggest otherwise are either dumb and/or lazy or are supporters of the dumb and/or lazy. Anything else is simply a lame excuse. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. Well yes, too dumb to learn the code, so I guess you are correct. Having no interest is not the same as being dumb. Or lazy? At any rate, if one really wants the ticket 5 WPM shouldn't be a barrier. The ONLY barrier to learning 5 WPM is either being dumb or lazy. And the ONLY folks who would suggest otherwise are either dumb and/or lazy or are supporters of the dumb and/or lazy. Anything else is simply a lame excuse. Having code req. is a lame excuse. |
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MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Getting rid of the code req. is the best thing the FCC has done in a long time. I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it! You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones who know it. Well yes, too dumb to learn the code, so I guess you are correct. Having no interest is not the same as being dumb. Or lazy? At any rate, if one really wants the ticket 5 WPM shouldn't be a barrier. The ONLY barrier to learning 5 WPM is either being dumb or lazy. And the ONLY folks who would suggest otherwise are either dumb and/or lazy or are supporters of the dumb and/or lazy. Anything else is simply a lame excuse. Having code req. is a lame excuse. Only for those who are unwilling to learn it! Bottom line, if you want the priveleges, you takes the test (and that pretty much holds true for anything), you don't get to 'cherry-pick' the particular things that you feel comfortable with being tested on, or that which YOU feel YOU have a use for. You're sounding more and more Liberal with each post! dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... Bottom line, if you want the priveleges, you takes the test (and that pretty much holds true for anything), you don't get to 'cherry-pick' the particular things that you feel comfortable with being tested on, or that which YOU feel YOU have a use for. You're sounding more and more Liberal with each post! And you're sounding like the typical code zealot. You'd make the perfect elitest liberal. |
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MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Bottom line, if you want the priveleges, you takes the test (and that pretty much holds true for anything), you don't get to 'cherry-pick' the particular things that you feel comfortable with being tested on, or that which YOU feel YOU have a use for. You're sounding more and more Liberal with each post! And you're sounding like the typical code zealot. You'd make the perfect elitest liberal. Are you currently licensed? dxAce Michigan USA |
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MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Bottom line, if you want the priveleges, you takes the test (and that pretty much holds true for anything), you don't get to 'cherry-pick' the particular things that you feel comfortable with being tested on, or that which YOU feel YOU have a use for. You're sounding more and more Liberal with each post! And you're sounding like the typical code zealot. You'd make the perfect elitest liberal. Well, I guess I am an 'elitist'. I was able to pass the 13 WPM requirement to obtain a General class license. I didn't allow the code requirement to hold me back whether I was going to ever use it or not. I wasn't lazy, I wasn't dumb, I simply wanted the ticket, and I didn't whine about it. Now, I guess I could use your mentality (and that of others) to provide a 'mental block' to my obtaining a Extra Class ticket if I desired to get one. I could whine, complain, stamp my feet and say that there are questions on the Extra exam that pertain to things that I just don't personally plan on using in Amateur Radio. But would I allow those things to get in my way? No, I'd simply buckle down, study, and take the test. I'm not a whiny Liberal. dxAce Michigan USA |
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If you want the Extra Class ticket,I would say,and I do
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Bottom line, if you want the priveleges, you takes the test (and that pretty much holds true for anything), you don't get to 'cherry-pick' the particular things that you feel comfortable with being tested on, or that which YOU feel YOU have a use for. You're sounding more and more Liberal with each post! And you're sounding like the typical code zealot. You'd make the perfect elitest liberal. Are you currently licensed? Nope. I'm waiting to see how the current license thing shakes out. Been meaning to for awhile now. I listen in on some 2m nets and stuff via the scanners and am starting to get the bug to talk insted of listen. From what I've seen the current ham tests are just like what Microsoft had for NT certification. Petty easy to pass with some memorization. But MSFT got wise and made the tests harder with each OS release. It would be fairly easy to make the tech test harder by not publishing the answers. You'd get a better quality of hams then instead of people with good memory who can barely do code. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... MnMikew wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Bottom line, if you want the priveleges, you takes the test (and that pretty much holds true for anything), you don't get to 'cherry-pick' the particular things that you feel comfortable with being tested on, or that which YOU feel YOU have a use for. You're sounding more and more Liberal with each post! And you're sounding like the typical code zealot. You'd make the perfect elitest liberal. Well, I guess I am an 'elitist'. I was able to pass the 13 WPM requirement to obtain a General class license. I didn't allow the code requirement to hold me back whether I was going to ever use it or not. I wasn't lazy, I wasn't dumb, I simply wanted the ticket, and I didn't whine about it. Now, I guess I could use your mentality (and that of others) to provide a 'mental block' to my obtaining a Extra Class ticket if I desired to get one. I could whine, complain, stamp my feet and say that there are questions on the Extra exam that pertain to things that I just don't personally plan on using in Amateur Radio. But would I allow those things to get in my way? No, I'd simply buckle down, study, and take the test. I'm not a whiny Liberal. dxAce Michigan USA Well, your constant whining that removing code will "dumb down" ham radio dosent really hold water. It's not like the ENTIRE HF band will be opened up to techs anyway. |
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