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Old April 1st 06, 08:44 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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I found the station so lacking in memorability I could not "click" on the
call letters alone.


It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that they never used
their call letters for anything other than the required station ID?

When you posted the on air name, I did remember it as
being atrocious and well worth changing to WMJI, which has a multi decade
history of being a fine, personality, fun radio station.


M-105 was always in a tight race with WMMS for listeners.


So, suddenly, when it is convenient, you believe in ratings.


I suspect that 25 years ago, they more closely reflected reality.


Who cares? It was a losing station. It had to change format, it lost so bad.
Radio is flexible that way... a format that does not work can be change,
literally, in hours.


I know a thing about format changes. But it wasn't a losing station.
It was successful, which is why it was *bought* and *changed* so it
wouldn't compete with WMMS.

WMMS was quite successful too, but only in promoting Peter's "3 foot
King Kong" myth. They overcompressed; everything above 8kHz was
noise. But they were THE HOME OF THE BUZZARD and had cool giveaways.

Those things do impress a 15 year old kid who hasn't got the best
hearing. I knew some of those kids back them -- but they grew up.

And WWWM's low-key approach to music would have -- and did, for some
of them -- appeal to 'em. When they changed ownership, those people
didn't go to WMMS -- they held their nose and went to WGCL/WNCX.

Or, they listened to *me* on the college station.


I am starting to understand you. You are an elitist, believing your taste is
sooooo good it should be emulated by others, while the taste of the masses
is inherently evil. You despise things, not because they are bad, but
because you don't like them and think anyone who does is wrong.


Oooh oooohh! Can I be a fascist, too, or is that exclusively
Pricket's domain?


WMJI is Cleveland's great radio station, and has been for some time. You are
simply unable to accept that it is doing what a lot of people want.


A lot of people want background noise. WMJI supplies that. I do want
content, and WMJI is devoid of that.


To you, success (WMMS, WMJI) are bad. Failure is to be put on a pedestal,
such as WWWM. You are like don Quixote... except that you joust with great
radio stations instead of windmills.


You finally got one thing right: I am a sucker for a lost cause. But
the lost cause in this case is the radio industry. Perhaps in the
future you'll get your due -- your name will be remembered in the
phrase "Eduardo Engineering" -- the process of running a station into
the ground.


I got you pegged. You want things your way, even if you are the only one in
the country who wants it that way.


Again I ask: What does Peter see in you that deserves the slightest
bit of respect? Or is he an elitist, too???

The only thing you got pegged is your own ego-meter.

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Eric F. Richards

"Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product."
-Ferenc Mantfeld
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Old April 1st 06, 09:02 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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So, suddenly, when it is convenient, you believe in ratings.


I suspect that 25 years ago, they more closely reflected reality.


Actually, they did not. They were far less sophisticated, and undermeasured
ethnic group members and many lifestyle groups. Since then, Arbitron has
developed DST, where they use special techniques to insure proportional
participation of Blacks and Hispanics and get adequate young adult male
participation. the current product is vastly better than it was even 10
years ago.

Who cares? It was a losing station. It had to change format, it lost so
bad.
Radio is flexible that way... a format that does not work can be change,
literally, in hours.


I know a thing about format changes. But it wasn't a losing station.
It was successful, which is why it was *bought* and *changed* so it
wouldn't compete with WMMS.


WMMS was owned by Malrite. Malrite did not buy WWWM and change it. It was
changed to stop the money losses and to try to make money, which they did
acheve; WMJI has long been the highest billing Cleveland staiton.

WMMS was quite successful too, but only in promoting Peter's "3 foot
King Kong" myth. They overcompressed; everything above 8kHz was
noise. But they were THE HOME OF THE BUZZARD and had cool giveaways.


And it was the #1 station in the 1985-1982 period where WWWM existed. It
never came close to giving WMMS a run for the money, whcih is why it lost
money and changed.

Or, they listened to *me* on the college station.


Now I see. Another free-form radio proponant. Yawn.
WMJI is Cleveland's great radio station, and has been for some time. You
are
simply unable to accept that it is doing what a lot of people want.


A lot of people want background noise. WMJI supplies that. I do want
content, and WMJI is devoid of that.


They have a magnificnent morning show. And the rest of the day, their
listeners want music and they get it.


To you, success (WMMS, WMJI) are bad. Failure is to be put on a pedestal,
such as WWWM. You are like don Quixote... except that you joust with
great
radio stations instead of windmills.


You finally got one thing right: I am a sucker for a lost cause. But
the lost cause in this case is the radio industry. Perhaps in the
future you'll get your due -- your name will be remembered in the
phrase "Eduardo Engineering" -- the process of running a station into
the ground.


I have not done it yet. And I am currently having the biggest run of "Worst
to First" experiences I have ever had... 12 major markets, in fact. That is
because I listen to listeners, and help build stations that appeal to them
and, thus, appeal to advertisers who want to reach those listeners. It is
that simple.


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