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IBOC at night (WABC)
David Eduardo wrote: "Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... Ron Hardin wrote: WABC 770 NYC seems to be running IBOC at night (now 4:30am EDT), wiping out WJR 760 Detroit listening in Central Ohio, which is a pretty hefty signal to be wiping out. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. And, to add from the same link: "As much as I'd like to hear Georgetown basketball games in this clarity next year, however, I probably won't; FCC regulations prohibit AM HD broadcasts after dark, lest they interfere with the reception of distant AM signals." FCC regulations permit HD from 6 AM or Sunrise, whichever is earlier to 6 PM or sunset, whichever is later. There is no specific prohibition for the rest of the night hours, because that has not been decided on yet. There is a current LIMITATION, not a specific prohibition. Ah, semantics ! |
IBOC at night (WABC)
"Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... There are over 1000 HD stations on the air. There are commitments for several thousand more. It already happened. We shall see - many experts disagree with you. Like any change, there will be some who disagree. They are very few in number. There is no interest/demand for HD/IBOC radio, from the general public. Of course there isn't. The poromotion of HD on a massive scale just began and the 2.0 design spec receivers have not arrived at retail yet. Keep in mind that in the first 3 years of FM stereo, only about 100 stations converted. It took FM as a band another 8 to 10 years to become economically viable after stereo was introduced, and much had to do with government "forced" regulation. It took 6 years for portable CD players to drop below $200... and that is about $300 in today's dollars. Actually, many stations have turned off their HD/IBOC equipment, due to listener complaints and/or interference to other stations ! Name me 10 who have. And that would be 10 out of over 1000 HD stations on the air, and nearly 2000 licensed by iBiquity. Note: in several cases, HD has not worked with highly directional AMs with high Q phasers and old transmission equipment. That is a management problem, not an HD problem. |
IBOC at night (WABC)
Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_! wrote: many stations have turned off their HD/IBOC equipment, due to listener complaints and/or interference to other stations ! Back in 2003, after WOR started IBOC transmissions, two other stations owned by MRBI (Multicultural Radio Broadcasting) joined the fray. WPAT-AM 93 fired up IBOC for a bit and then WZRC-1480 did. The exciters were turned off shortly thereafter. Haven't been turned on since. Why this is, I don't know. Maybe there are still bugs to be worked out in the transmitter plants at these two stations? -- Steph |
IBOC at night (WABC)
David Eduardo wrote: "Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... There are over 1000 HD stations on the air. There are commitments for several thousand more. It already happened. We shall see - many experts disagree with you. Like any change, there will be some who disagree. They are very few in number. There is no interest/demand for HD/IBOC radio, from the general public. Of course there isn't. The poromotion of HD on a massive scale just began and the 2.0 design spec receivers have not arrived at retail yet. Keep in mind that in the first 3 years of FM stereo, only about 100 stations converted. It took FM as a band another 8 to 10 years to become economically viable after stereo was introduced, and much had to do with government "forced" regulation. It took 6 years for portable CD players to drop below $200... and that is about $300 in today's dollars. Actually, many stations have turned off their HD/IBOC equipment, due to listener complaints and/or interference to other stations ! Name me 10 who have. And that would be 10 out of over 1000 HD stations on the air, and nearly 2000 licensed by iBiquity. Note: in several cases, HD has not worked with highly directional AMs with high Q phasers and old transmission equipment. That is a management problem, not an HD problem. Here are the ten and your "thousand" on-air is B.S: http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html I wouldn't expect anything less, from someone who markets sleazy IBOC. IBOC will die - there are too many technical problems: http://www.wbdhradio.com/html/say_no_to_iboc.html |
IBOC at night (WABC)
"Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... David Eduardo wrote: Name me 10 who have. And that would be 10 out of over 1000 HD stations on the air, and nearly 2000 licensed by iBiquity. Note: in several cases, HD has not worked with highly directional AMs with high Q phasers and old transmission equipment. That is a management problem, not an HD problem. Here are the ten and your "thousand" on-air is B.S: http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html That list is woefully out of date, and does not include FMs. In fact, more than half the AM stations I work with are that are HD operations are missing... It is even missing important HD stations like WJR and KGO which are 50 kw clear channel operations. I wouldn't expect anything less, from someone who markets sleazy IBOC. IBOC will die - I do not market HD. I use it. |
IBOC at night (WABC)
"Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! You have said that same cut-and-paste statement bout 25 times now. Add something useful, like Stephanie or Brenda, or shut up. |
IBOC at night (WABC)
David Eduardo wrote: "Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! You have said that same cut-and-paste statement bout 25 times now. Add something useful, like Stephanie or Brenda, or shut up. You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! |
IBOC at night (WABC)
David Eduardo wrote: "Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! You have said that same cut-and-paste statement bout 25 times now. Add something useful, like Stephanie or Brenda, or shut up. IBOC AM Broadcasting Is a Complete Failure! http://www.wbdhradio.com/html/say_no_to_iboc.html |
IBOC at night (WABC)
"Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message ups.com... David Eduardo wrote: "Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! You have said that same cut-and-paste statement bout 25 times now. Add something useful, like Stephanie or Brenda, or shut up. You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! There are nearly 2,000 stations with HD licenses, and over 1000 on the air. Tell me how that is a lack of interest. |
IBOC at night (WABC)
David Eduardo wrote: "Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message ups.com... David Eduardo wrote: "Grundig_Tecsun_Eton_garbage_!" wrote in message oups.com... You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! You have said that same cut-and-paste statement bout 25 times now. Add something useful, like Stephanie or Brenda, or shut up. You could have fooled me ! There is no interest for HD/IBOC - HD/IBOC will die ! There are nearly 2,000 stations with HD licenses, and over 1000 on the air. Tell me how that is a lack of interest. What a joke - that doesn't mean **** ! Do you really think consumers are going to pay for digital radio and a fee to sign up/listen ! Satellite radio is already deeply in debt, because of that same reason ! What a ****ing joke you are ! Consumers have no interest in purchasing digital radios to listen to AM/FM ! |
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