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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

If there is going to be a push for HD and a significant investment on
the part of each station, why isn't it being promoted as heavily on those
AM stations using it, as it is on the FMs?

That is a good question. I think that the on air part is just comeing
together now, and many stations may be waiting for receivers to be available
to do the promotion. Most promotion at present is for FM based on the HD 2
channels.

One would think that if DELPHI and JVC can put together a portable
satellite receiver, with decent battery life, they could do the same with
IBOC equipped receivers in a similar sized package.

I don't intimately know the development process. A few months ago, I talked
to Bob Struble (CEO of iBiquity) at a conference for our PDs and Managers
and asked him about a more efficient chipset. I got some discussion of the
power requirements for the DAC and an indication that development, together
with the mostly Chinese manufacturers, was going on. I was not given a
timetable.


Make no mistake, portable satellite receivers get good and warm,
indicating some serious current draw, not unlike the first and second
generations of digital cameras, but they do work, and battery life is
pretty solid.

Right now, a receiver with 4 AA batteries would only last about 4 to 6
hours.

IBOC at night (WABC)
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

If there is going to be a push for HD and a significant investment on
the part of each station, why isn't it being promoted as heavily on those
AM stations using it, as it is on the FMs?

That is a good question. I think that the on air part is just comeing
together now, and many stations may be waiting for receivers to be available
to do the promotion. Most promotion at present is for FM based on the HD 2
channels.
One would think that if DELPHI and JVC can put together a portable
satellite receiver, with decent battery life, they could do the same with
IBOC equipped receivers in a similar sized package.

I don't intimately know the development process. A few months ago, I talked
to Bob Struble (CEO of iBiquity) at a conference for our PDs and Managers
and asked him about a more efficient chipset. I got some discussion of the
power requirements for the DAC and an indication that development, together
with the mostly Chinese manufacturers, was going on. I was not given a
timetable.

Make no mistake, portable satellite receivers get good and warm,
indicating some serious current draw, not unlike the first and second
generations of digital cameras, but they do work, and battery life is
pretty solid.

Right now, a receiver with 4 AA batteries would only last about 4 to 6
hours.



I get not quite twice that with a rechargeable Li Ion battery on my
Delphi. Clearly, alkalines won't be quite the way to go, yet.

IBOC at night (WABC)
 

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:14:24 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



FM took off when the FCC mandated an end to simulcasting. The biggest gain
in FM was from Beautiful Music, not progressive rock.


Right. Montovani rules!

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DaviD - The Digital Hash from AM/MW HD-IBOC Radio :
Will be used to hide the Noise of the Black Helicopters
as they approach your home to take you away.
http://www.jacquedee63.com/takemeaway.html

Watch-Out-DaviD - They're Coming to Take You Away Ha-Haaa!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They%27...way_Ha-Haaa%21


Yes DaviD - The Men-in-Black are Real - Just Look in the Mirror !
http://it.stlawu.edu/~x0tsing/takeaway.ra

- thus sayeth the 'maharishi homey' ~ RHF

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Thanks all very good information.

On 5 Jul 2006 07:38:19 -0700, "Stephanie Weil"
wrote:


David Eduardo wrote:

HD is not yet authorized for night operation, although 4:30 AM falls in the
experimental period, so they could be testing.

WABC-77 AM (along with WOR-710 and WFAN-66 AM) shuts down the IBOC down
for the night.

WCBS-88 AM, however is running it 24/7. I guess they're experimenting
interference with WLS-89 AM,Chicago?

WNYC-82 AM was running IBOC day and night for the past month (10,000
watts day, 1000 watts night). The exciter has been off since this past
Friday night, however. As of this morning, it was still shut off.

WADO-1280 AM's exciter has also been off over the weekend. I don't
know what happened this morning, though. Didn't tune in.

So I don't know what's been happening...aside from LOTS of hash in the
daytime.
My Tivoli-Model 1 is now useless on AM in the daytime. Go figure.

I'm still waiting for WINS-1010, WEPN-1050 and WBBR-1130 to go
IBOC...maybe in a few months time? Ditto the regionals (WPAT-AM 93,
WZRC-1480, etc.), although those were playing with IBOC back in 2003
and then shut it off, never to turn it back on.

Salem Broadcasting (WMCA-57 and WWDJ-97 AM) are holding off on IBOC for
now....
"The only way to have a friend is to be one".
-Ralph Waldo Emerson-

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Good info.. Thanks

"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
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WABC 770 NYC seems to be running IBOC at night (now 4:30am EDT),
wiping out WJR 760 Detroit listening in Central Ohio, which is
a pretty hefty signal to be wiping out.

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:45:15 GMT, Ron Hardin
wrote:

WABC 770 NYC seems to be running IBOC at night (now 4:30am EDT),
wiping out WJR 760 Detroit listening in Central Ohio, which is
a pretty hefty signal to be wiping out.
"The only way to have a friend is to be one".
-Ralph Waldo Emerson-

NYC IBOC situation (was IBOC at night (WABC))
 

HD is not yet authorized for night operation, although 4:30 AM falls in the
experimental period, so they could be testing.

WABC-77 AM (along with WOR-710 and WFAN-66 AM) shuts down the IBOC down
for the night.

WCBS-88 AM, however is running it 24/7. I guess they're experimenting
interference with WLS-89 AM,Chicago?

WNYC-82 AM was running IBOC day and night for the past month (10,000
watts day, 1000 watts night). The exciter has been off since this past
Friday night, however. As of this morning, it was still shut off.

WADO-1280 AM's exciter has also been off over the weekend. I don't
know what happened this morning, though. Didn't tune in.

On a number of occasions, stations have run their IBOC all night. In
most cases this seems to involve major stations operated by major groups
such as Clear Channel. As much as some people may dislike Clear
Channel, they are not known for violating FCC technical regulations. [0]
I suppose in one or two cases there's been a simple mistake or failure
of a timer, but I have to think in most cases these stations have some
kind of temporary authority from the FCC for testing purposes.

(in most cases I've heard of, the IBOC is staying on *all night* -
including between sunset and midnight - not just during the experimental
period when it might arguably be legal without STA)

Salem Broadcasting (WMCA-57 and WWDJ-97 AM) are holding off on IBOC for
now....

Indeed, Salem reportedly *removed* IBOC from WIND-560 Chicago when they
acquired it from a different owner.

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

[0] some would argue they get the interference-causing technology
declared legal before they try using itgrin, kinda

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On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:11:41 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:


On a number of occasions, stations have run their IBOC all night. In
most cases this seems to involve major stations operated by major groups
such as Clear Channel. As much as some people may dislike Clear
Channel, they are not known for violating FCC technical regulations. [0]
I suppose in one or two cases there's been a simple mistake or failure
of a timer, but I have to think in most cases these stations have some
kind of temporary authority from the FCC for testing purposes.

You can do whatever you want between Midnight and 4 AM, as long as you
don't run paid.

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David wrote:
You can do whatever you want between Midnight and 4 AM, as long as you
don't run paid.

And you can't run regularly scheduled programs.

But some of these nighttime IBOC tests are being heard between sunset
and midnight - *before* this "experimental period" kicks in.

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com