"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' well known fake Hispanic
since
c.2000 and paid shill for Univision/iBiquity wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Yes, one must remember it's not about the serious listening that
HD/IBOC
assumes, but rather the serious money that Edweenie and his minions
hope
to make
by selling an unsuspecting public something it doesn't really need.

Those of us in radio do not make any money from HD.

If you're not going to make any money from HD then why the hell do you
spend a
good part of your day shilling for it?

Because it is one of those investments, like a new transmitter, that
preserves the ongoing business model.

"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one
will
pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM.

Pay? there is no fee.

Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved
quality.

I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently,
especially with codec ver. 2.2.5.

No one will be attracted to it under any circumstances if its chief
selling point is that it's "almost as good as the alternatives"

FM HD is better than any other current distribution system, plus it is
free.

AM HD is as good as any alternative system, and is free. It is much
better
than Analog AM.

"as good as" isn't what you've said previously, but it's also not good
enough to cut the mustard.

AM HD compares favorably to most online streams, to iPod audio, and the that
available currently from satellite. It is vastly better than analog AM.

"Steve" wrote in message
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The only difference is in the improved audio quality. There is no such
thing
as "serious" radio listening... it is almost all done to accompany other
things, like working, driving, etc.

The people who listen to AM don't put a lot of priority on audio
quality.

Yes, they are all older, most are over 45, and a majority over 55. That is
not a salable demographic, so the band will die as the existing listeners
age and no new ones come in due to audio quality.

People who do put a big priority on audio quality listen to FM.

It is nowhere as simple as that. AM is a spoken word band because music
sounds inferior on it. In other words, AM dropped any programming that
nobody would listen to anyway.

You'll never lure any portion of the FM audience back to AM.

Yes, you can.

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo' the only genuine fake
Hispanic to ever come out of Hawken School wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo, otherwise known as David Frackelton Gleason, spawn of the
Cuyahoga wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Yes, one must remember it's not about the serious listening that
HD/IBOC
assumes, but rather the serious money that Edweenie and his minions
hope
to make
by selling an unsuspecting public something it doesn't really need.

Those of us in radio do not make any money from HD. In fact, it costs us
in
new equipment and the iBiquity license we have to pay for from now on.

No money? Univision owns part of iBiquity, does it not? So therefore
Univision
will be a beneficiary of those licensing fees and by extension, you,
Edweenie,
will also be a beneficiary!

The investments by the broadcasters are minor, and were kind of seed capital
to get the larger investment bankers and private capital sources to finance
the development of HD. The likelihood of any gain from this pales compared
to the cost of converting stations, developing second FM channels,
marketing, etc.

But you're still gonna make a $ or two, right, shill?

"David" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:09:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



The only difference is in the improved audio quality. There is no such
thing
as "serious" radio listening... it is almost all done to accompany other
things, like working, driving, etc.


Aside from being quieter, it really doesn't sound any better.

It is much better fidelity and quality

"Steve" wrote in message
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Frank Dresser wrote:

This is the death of AM Radio?

HALLELUJAH!! THERE IS THE PROMISE OF LIFE AFTER DEATH!!!

No nighttime IBOC and fewer interfering signals?

Might I somenight be able to DX the Farsi station from LA? It seems so
unlikely, but...

IN AM RADIO, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!!!

Thank you for your prophetic vision of the death of AM radio. Thank you.

SAY AMEN, EVERYBODY!!!

Frank Dresser

Here here. If AM is as slow about dying as shortwave, people will be
enjoying it far into the future.

It has about 7 to 10 years of life as it is, since the remaining salable
demos in 35-54 will be over 55 in that time period, and there will be no
advertisers. Just paid religion, infomecials and stuff like that.

David Frackelton Gleason, Univision Radio's only pompous poseur wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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The digital alternative may well be the doom of AM radio. No one
will
pay to listen to a slightly inferior version of FM.

Pay? there is no fee.

Buy the radio, no further fee. Get the radio, get far improved
quality.

I will bet you have not listened to HD AM either ever or recently,
especially with codec ver. 2.2.5.

No one will be attracted to it under any circumstances if its chief
selling point is that it's "almost as good as the alternatives"

FM HD is better than any other current distribution system, plus it is
free.

AM HD is as good as any alternative system, and is free. It is much
better
than Analog AM.

"as good as" isn't what you've said previously, but it's also not good
enough to cut the mustard.

AM HD compares favorably to most online streams, to iPod audio, and the that
available currently from satellite. It is vastly better than analog AM.

Yeah, and it QRM's two additional channels to boot!

Wow!

A pox upon you and your spawn, Edweenie!

"Telamon" wrote in message
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As has been shown, even at FCC level, there is no significant usage of
stations adjacent to locals in each market. So there is no loss if there
is
what ammounts to unmeasurable listening.

Again the marketing viewpoint. This isn't a radio marketing news group
it is a hobby news group where people listen for other reasons than
tuning in for the programming material. That is not to say that the
programming is not the reason as I have tuned in out of market stations
to get programs not offered in my area.

When I began DXing, I not only joined NRC, NNRC, IRC, MWC, NZDXL, etc., but
I also subscribed to Broadcasting and Sponsor and such and learned about the
reason why I was hearing what I heard. Now, you say hobbyists have no
interest in the actual stations they listen too. You just gave me another
reason not to answer verification (QSL) requests.

I don't hear listeners complaining. I hear mostly DXers whining.

You don't care about DXers in your job but you should posting to this
news group.

As a DXer going back to 1958, I think it is important for DXers to know
about the radio business. If you want to live in a fantasy land, and get
angry about HD, then that is OK. But don't condemn radio as an industry for
doing what most of us think is right for the future.

The greater good is trying to preserve the existing free terrestrial
broadcast system, which will not endure unless a digital alternative is
offered.

We got that through numerous posts you have made.

You may have. DXass certainly hasn't, nor has Steve and the now-absent
"IBOC_Sucks" guy.

Well I hate to break it to you but listening to adjacent stations is
"done" by the people reading this news group. How many times does
someone have to post a complaint here that IBOC degrades their
reception? Please don't come back with the marketing perspective because
I get it already.

the symbiotic relationship is changing. You should know about it.

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Not by a long shot. But Univision obviously thinks his time is well spent
shilling
here.

I do this while waiting in airports, or in down time before research
projects... or while listening to them....

You, on the other hand, have nothing to do _but_ attacking Hispanics,
Canadians, owners of R-75's and such.

David Frackelton Gleason blew beans out his ass yet again when he wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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The only difference is in the improved audio quality. There is no such
thing
as "serious" radio listening... it is almost all done to accompany other
things, like working, driving, etc.

The people who listen to AM don't put a lot of priority on audio
quality.

Yes, they are all older, most are over 45, and a majority over 55. That is
not a salable demographic, so the band will die as the existing listeners
age and no new ones come in due to audio quality.

People who do put a big priority on audio quality listen to FM.

It is nowhere as simple as that. AM is a spoken word band because music
sounds inferior on it. In other words, AM dropped any programming that
nobody would listen to anyway.

You'll never lure any portion of the FM audience back to AM.

Yes, you can.

Heck, you're either 60, or almost 60 so that makes you a member of that
un-salable demographic.

Just why the **** is a member of that un-salable demographic doing the
programming for all those stations then.

Shouldn't they look at canning your un-salable fake Hispanic ass?