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David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo' and shamelessly whoring for
Univision Radio/iBiquity wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years.
The decline is technology based, and can be corrected... with
technology.

Nothing wrong with the technology, 'tard boy. AM (MW) comes in just
fine here. And it comes in even better without the HD/IBOC QRM.

There is everything wrong with the technology. It sounds so inferior
that nobody who "grew up" on FM will touch it, as it is irritating.
Two generations now have no use for AM. The only users, like you, are
old farts who do not look at the future or have lost most of their
hearing.

I don't know where you are coming from on this. I grew up listening to
FM and AM and I think AMBCB sounds just fine.

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average listener.

The fact that YOU are on this group means YOU got lost somewhere along the way,
prancing boy.

Find your way back.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.


Well, of course it's a vicious circle. Most everything in Radio is.
You remember how tough it is to get hired until you have experience, but
you can't get experience until you get hired. Vicious circles in Radio
aren't news. But the fact remains.

That said, it's content that drives listening. If the content is of
no interest to the target, HD isn't going to help. What's not
happening, is there's no change in content to accompany HD
implementation. WGN didn't change content when HD was installed. And I'm
sure that Ace will point out that WBBM's content is the same as before
HD was installed. So, HD is only really benefitting those who are
already using AM. And those younger demos you wish to attract with audio
quality, will be just as unintersted in the content after HD, as the
stations themselves are in those who listen outside of the city grade
contour.





The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be a
natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new radio
in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on both
bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling going on.
In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some encouraging
acceptance.

That is exactly what will be the make-or-break as to AM. FM is healthy. It
will become healthier with HD 2 channels. It can potentially drage AM back
into the game. This is why none of the big operators has sold a viable AM in
years... all believe the value will be enhanced by HD. That is a
many-billion-dollar gamble.



That's exactly my point...it's a gamble. A crap shoot. Targeting the
superficiality and subjective perception of audio quality. While the
real attraction to listening is content.

You've noted growth at your AM's on the West Coast. Those are due to
content, not audio quality. And your growth has exceeded expectations.
Whether HD has been implemented or not, HD's 'improved' audio quality is
not a factor, since receiving hardware is both expensive and not widely
available. In fact, your share increase would exceed the number of HD
radios sold in those markets were explosive growth has taken place. IF
HD audio is not a factor, it's the content that's attracting listeners.
In under 45 demo's at that.

However, HD is putting that content off limits to potential
listeners, by trashing the bands in weak signal areas with other
station's HD rash. If noise and audio quality are, indeed, factors
keeping AM from stable growth, or at least stable levels of
listenership, increasing noise found in HD sidebands is not going to be
a viable solution.



So, as with most radio techological innovations, it's going to have to be
in the cars in order to expose that captive audience to a fair hearing of
HD-AM for an interest to be generated. (This, despite the fact that a
majority of listening is not in cars.) But for those listeners who would
have to actively pursue an HD experience without current regular AM
usage...I'm not seeing it.

Cars are where Americans are forced to get a new radio. Obviously, there is
a trickle down aspect, as not everyone buys new cars (ever) and not everyone
buys a new car every year or two. But this is the opportunity for AM. It is
not an overnighter, but the band is fading, not exploding.
So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You and
I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener centric
product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM is
unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside of
controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is more
interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for some time
to come.

We are years away from being able to evaluate listener response, which will
be based on product demand. But the few reports that have started coming in
are favorable. On the FM side, we put a Tejano format on last week ont he
KLTN HD2 channel, and we have registered several hundred calls (the format
is on a marginal AM as well) asking about how to buy radios and all were
very excited. This, perhaps and even hopefully will rub off on AM.


Then, again, if audio quality is really an issue, that same Tejano
format on HD2, since HD radios must resolve both AM and FM HD, will
present an attraction of listeners away from the AM station, even if
listening is done in AM HD.

So, the net advantage to AM, here is zero where the same content is
available on FM, analog or digital.

As you said, that makes AM HD an enormous gamble. And an expensive
buy-in to the game.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.

The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be a
natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new radio
in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on both
bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling going on.
In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some encouraging
acceptance.

That is exactly what will be the make-or-break as to AM. FM is healthy. It
will become healthier with HD 2 channels. It can potentially drage AM back
into the game. This is why none of the big operators has sold a viable AM in
years... all believe the value will be enhanced by HD. That is a
many-billion-dollar gamble.

So, as with most radio techological innovations, it's going to have to be
in the cars in order to expose that captive audience to a fair hearing of
HD-AM for an interest to be generated. (This, despite the fact that a
majority of listening is not in cars.) But for those listeners who would
have to actively pursue an HD experience without current regular AM
usage...I'm not seeing it.

Cars are where Americans are forced to get a new radio. Obviously, there is
a trickle down aspect, as not everyone buys new cars (ever) and not everyone
buys a new car every year or two. But this is the opportunity for AM. It is
not an overnighter, but the band is fading, not exploding.

So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You and
I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener centric
product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM is
unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside of
controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is more
interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for some time
to come.

We are years away from being able to evaluate listener response, which will
be based on product demand. But the few reports that have started coming in
are favorable. On the FM side, we put a Tejano format on last week ont he
KLTN HD2 channel, and we have registered several hundred calls (the format
is on a marginal AM as well) asking about how to buy radios and all were
very excited. This, perhaps and even hopefully will rub off on AM.





Is it true that you only started using "Eduardo" in 2000? How does this
use of this name promote your business?

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-

Again with the problem of how AMBCB sounds. AMBCB sounds just fine.

Even when music is available on FM, such as Mexico (loads of music stations
still there) the younger audience does not listen. In fact, FM listening in
Mexico is higher than that of the US! It is nearly all about quality of the
sound, not the programming... because most Mexican cities have more viable
AM signals than US cities do.

Yes, but why do you keep ducking the issue about your name?

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D Peter Maus wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.

Well, of course it's a vicious circle. Most everything in Radio is.
You remember how tough it is to get hired until you have experience, but
you can't get experience until you get hired. Vicious circles in Radio
aren't news. But the fact remains.

That said, it's content that drives listening. If the content is of
no interest to the target, HD isn't going to help. What's not
happening, is there's no change in content to accompany HD
implementation. WGN didn't change content when HD was installed. And I'm
sure that Ace will point out that WBBM's content is the same as before
HD was installed. So, HD is only really benefitting those who are
already using AM. And those younger demos you wish to attract with audio
quality, will be just as unintersted in the content after HD, as the
stations themselves are in those who listen outside of the city grade
contour.

I don't listen very much to WBBM, but on the occasions that I do, you are correct
in that I have noted no change in their content.

What I do notice without fail is that when they have their HD/IBOC up and running
is the total annihilation of at least two adjacent channels.

Such a wonderful system, it seems to me, will only force more listeners away from
the MW bands.

The potential to drive those of us who tune around at night (or currently during
the daytime) looking for alternative voices from outside our 'local' market or
'area' off the band for good does not seem to be a productive use of this
resource.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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Steve wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.

The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be a
natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new radio
in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on both
bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling going on.
In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some encouraging
acceptance.

That is exactly what will be the make-or-break as to AM. FM is healthy. It
will become healthier with HD 2 channels. It can potentially drage AM back
into the game. This is why none of the big operators has sold a viable AM in
years... all believe the value will be enhanced by HD. That is a
many-billion-dollar gamble.

So, as with most radio techological innovations, it's going to have to be
in the cars in order to expose that captive audience to a fair hearing of
HD-AM for an interest to be generated. (This, despite the fact that a
majority of listening is not in cars.) But for those listeners who would
have to actively pursue an HD experience without current regular AM
usage...I'm not seeing it.

Cars are where Americans are forced to get a new radio. Obviously, there is
a trickle down aspect, as not everyone buys new cars (ever) and not everyone
buys a new car every year or two. But this is the opportunity for AM. It is
not an overnighter, but the band is fading, not exploding.

So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You and
I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener centric
product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM is
unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside of
controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is more
interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for some time
to come.

We are years away from being able to evaluate listener response, which will
be based on product demand. But the few reports that have started coming in
are favorable. On the FM side, we put a Tejano format on last week ont he
KLTN HD2 channel, and we have registered several hundred calls (the format
is on a marginal AM as well) asking about how to buy radios and all were
very excited. This, perhaps and even hopefully will rub off on AM.





Is it true that you only started using "Eduardo" in 2000? How does this
use of this name promote your business?

It's true! Right about that time he ceased being David_Gleason and became David
Eduardo on the net.

Now he claims to have been baptized 'Eduardo' in 1947, up in Cleveland, Ohio. He
was born David Frackelton Gleason in 1946.

One wonders why, when he spent so much time in Mexico, Ecuador, San Juan, etc., he
did not use the 'Eduardo' shtick at that time? He had business cards printed,
signed letters to listeners, was on HCJB, had his name in radio publications, both
professional and hobby (most often appearing as David Gleason and at times as
David F. Gleason) and NEVER once does the name 'Eduardo' ever come up.

If one looks at his resume page, one very telling item is his mothers death notice
which appears to be dated 1997 which lists her survivors as:

Carolyn G. Oberndorf, David Gleason, H. Lansing Vail, Thomas V. H. Vail, Jane
Vaughn and Stanton K. Gleason.

Wonder why David didn't at least get an F. tossed in there, let alone an E. F.?
At least his stepbrother got the V. H. put in.

Bottom line, he certainly is a Frackelton, but he sure as hell isn't an 'Eduardo',
at least until right around the year 2000 when he adopted that shtick, apparently
right around the time he discovered that he could check off a box on the Census
form and become an instant Hispanic.

Most likely somehow all related to his business activities.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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dxAce wrote:
Steve wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.

The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be a
natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new radio
in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on both
bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling going on.
In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some encouraging
acceptance.

That is exactly what will be the make-or-break as to AM. FM is healthy. It
will become healthier with HD 2 channels. It can potentially drage AM back
into the game. This is why none of the big operators has sold a viable AM in
years... all believe the value will be enhanced by HD. That is a
many-billion-dollar gamble.

So, as with most radio techological innovations, it's going to have to be
in the cars in order to expose that captive audience to a fair hearing of
HD-AM for an interest to be generated. (This, despite the fact that a
majority of listening is not in cars.) But for those listeners who would
have to actively pursue an HD experience without current regular AM
usage...I'm not seeing it.

Cars are where Americans are forced to get a new radio. Obviously, there is
a trickle down aspect, as not everyone buys new cars (ever) and not everyone
buys a new car every year or two. But this is the opportunity for AM. It is
not an overnighter, but the band is fading, not exploding.

So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You and
I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener centric
product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM is
unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside of
controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is more
interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for some time
to come.

We are years away from being able to evaluate listener response, which will
be based on product demand. But the few reports that have started coming in
are favorable. On the FM side, we put a Tejano format on last week ont he
KLTN HD2 channel, and we have registered several hundred calls (the format
is on a marginal AM as well) asking about how to buy radios and all were
very excited. This, perhaps and even hopefully will rub off on AM.





Is it true that you only started using "Eduardo" in 2000? How does this
use of this name promote your business?

It's true! Right about that time he ceased being David_Gleason and became David
Eduardo on the net.

Now he claims to have been baptized 'Eduardo' in 1947, up in Cleveland, Ohio. He
was born David Frackelton Gleason in 1946.

One wonders why, when he spent so much time in Mexico, Ecuador, San Juan, etc., he
did not use the 'Eduardo' shtick at that time? He had business cards printed,
signed letters to listeners, was on HCJB, had his name in radio publications, both
professional and hobby (most often appearing as David Gleason and at times as
David F. Gleason) and NEVER once does the name 'Eduardo' ever come up.

If one looks at his resume page, one very telling item is his mothers death notice
which appears to be dated 1997 which lists her survivors as:

Carolyn G. Oberndorf, David Gleason, H. Lansing Vail, Thomas V. H. Vail, Jane
Vaughn and Stanton K. Gleason.

Wonder why David didn't at least get an F. tossed in there, let alone an E. F.?
At least his stepbrother got the V. H. put in.

Bottom line, he certainly is a Frackelton, but he sure as hell isn't an 'Eduardo',
at least until right around the year 2000 when he adopted that shtick, apparently
right around the time he discovered that he could check off a box on the Census
form and become an instant Hispanic.

Most likely somehow all related to his business activities.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

It's also interesting that, on his website, Tardo represents himself as
"Executive Vice President of Univision Radio's research and programming
division". However, if you look at the page promoting the NAB
conference in San Diego in 2004

http://tinyurl.com/rzgea

he's "president of programming at Univision Radio". Either Tardo was
demoted since 2004 or he isn't able to keep his story straight.
Interesting.

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Steve wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Steve wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.

The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be a
natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new radio
in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on both
bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling going on.
In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some encouraging
acceptance.

That is exactly what will be the make-or-break as to AM. FM is healthy. It
will become healthier with HD 2 channels. It can potentially drage AM back
into the game. This is why none of the big operators has sold a viable AM in
years... all believe the value will be enhanced by HD. That is a
many-billion-dollar gamble.

So, as with most radio techological innovations, it's going to have to be
in the cars in order to expose that captive audience to a fair hearing of
HD-AM for an interest to be generated. (This, despite the fact that a
majority of listening is not in cars.) But for those listeners who would
have to actively pursue an HD experience without current regular AM
usage...I'm not seeing it.

Cars are where Americans are forced to get a new radio. Obviously, there is
a trickle down aspect, as not everyone buys new cars (ever) and not everyone
buys a new car every year or two. But this is the opportunity for AM. It is
not an overnighter, but the band is fading, not exploding.

So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You and
I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener centric
product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM is
unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside of
controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is more
interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for some time
to come.

We are years away from being able to evaluate listener response, which will
be based on product demand. But the few reports that have started coming in
are favorable. On the FM side, we put a Tejano format on last week ont he
KLTN HD2 channel, and we have registered several hundred calls (the format
is on a marginal AM as well) asking about how to buy radios and all were
very excited. This, perhaps and even hopefully will rub off on AM.





Is it true that you only started using "Eduardo" in 2000? How does this
use of this name promote your business?

It's true! Right about that time he ceased being David_Gleason and became David
Eduardo on the net.

Now he claims to have been baptized 'Eduardo' in 1947, up in Cleveland, Ohio. He
was born David Frackelton Gleason in 1946.

One wonders why, when he spent so much time in Mexico, Ecuador, San Juan, etc., he
did not use the 'Eduardo' shtick at that time? He had business cards printed,
signed letters to listeners, was on HCJB, had his name in radio publications, both
professional and hobby (most often appearing as David Gleason and at times as
David F. Gleason) and NEVER once does the name 'Eduardo' ever come up.

If one looks at his resume page, one very telling item is his mothers death notice
which appears to be dated 1997 which lists her survivors as:

Carolyn G. Oberndorf, David Gleason, H. Lansing Vail, Thomas V. H. Vail, Jane
Vaughn and Stanton K. Gleason.

Wonder why David didn't at least get an F. tossed in there, let alone an E. F.?
At least his stepbrother got the V. H. put in.

Bottom line, he certainly is a Frackelton, but he sure as hell isn't an 'Eduardo',
at least until right around the year 2000 when he adopted that shtick, apparently
right around the time he discovered that he could check off a box on the Census
form and become an instant Hispanic.

Most likely somehow all related to his business activities.

dxAce


Hmmm. That is interesting. I also noticed that in 2004 in San Diego he
participated in a panel discussion about the future of radio as "David
Gleason". A link is he

http://tinyurl.com/l7mr8

He's obviously got some kind of scam going.

Also, I don't know whether this has been posted before, but the
following might explain why Tardo wants to disrupt the activities of
RRS. Turns out he just plain old doesn't like DXers and "took his Drake
to the dumpster" out of disgust:

************************************************** ***********
************************************************** ***********

KTNQ is no longer testing. IBOC is on 6 A to 6 P permanently. We
believe it may be the only one on the West Coast in regular operation
(David Gleason, Univisi?n Radio, ibid.)

So, did you guys forget to notify the FCC of your IBOC operation?
Notification is supposed to take place within 10 days from your
startup date (Barry McLarnon, VE3JF, Ottawa, ON, ibid.)

The FCC list is hardly complete. It is missing several hundred
stations that have notified of intent and are installing now. Just in
my company, there are 16 stations installing the gear and several
already running; they were among the original Ibiquity signers. I'd
say that the FCC is simply not paying much attention to the list
(Gleason, ibid.)

I'm sure they don't care about intent, or who's signed up with
Ibiquity, but you DO have to formally notify them soon after you
actually start transmitting IBOC. If you don't, then I'd say you are
operating illegally. Of course, that doesn't seem to matter much
these days (Barry McLarnon, VE3JF, Ottawa, ON, ibid.)

Barry, KTNQ has done all the necessary notifications. Our company has
never been fined or cited for a major violation. Suggesting we are
operating incorrectly without first checking is personally,
professionally and morally of the highest offense. It's rude, Barry,
and insensitive to a company that has 1,500 employees and probably
does more service to its communities than any other broadcast company
I know of on this planet.

Yes, I am ****ed. And really offended.

Why the hell do you and some other DXers think that every radio
station in the US is operating illegally and incompetently.

[whining jag clipped]

This kind of crap is enough to make me take the Drake to the dumpster
and forget about DXing. And you wonder why stations don't answer
reports anymore --- several of the supposed DXers on this group have
enough misguided venom to turn off any broadcaster. Most of us are
professions, responsible and dedicated. There are over 100 thousand
people working in radio. Nearly none of them are dishonest and
deceitful.

KTNQ had its paperwork for IBOC in order, as it does on every legal
and technical matter, long before you started speculating and pointing
your finger.

I first became an NRC member in 1958. After this insult, 2003 will be
my last if I can get a refund for my remaining months.

And --- you should have seen this message _before_ I edited it (David
Gleason, ibid.)

[snip]

I hope David and Barry can get over what seems to be a pretty mild
misunderstanding. I, for one, value both David's industry insight and
Barry's outstanding DX skills, and I'd hate to lose either of them on
this list or in the club (or at the convention this fall!!!) s (Scott
Fybush, NY, ibid.)

The tone of the Barry-gram was simply so dismissive and rude, that I
am disposing of the Drake, already wrote to NRC to cancel membership
and am out of here. This is like being a conservative at the annual
Marx-Engels Awards (Gleason, ibid.)

I would urge that this thread be terminated (NRC-AM Moderator, ibid.)

************************************************** ********
************************************************** ********

It looks like Tardo never really got this tantrum out of his system and
is now taking it out on RRS. Talk about a prima donna!

Yes, I had read that previously but had forgotten about the Drake comment.

Sacrilege!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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dxAce wrote:

Steve wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Steve wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.

The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be a
natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new radio
in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on both
bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling going on.
In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some encouraging
acceptance.

That is exactly what will be the make-or-break as to AM. FM is healthy. It
will become healthier with HD 2 channels. It can potentially drage AM back
into the game. This is why none of the big operators has sold a viable AM in
years... all believe the value will be enhanced by HD. That is a
many-billion-dollar gamble.

So, as with most radio techological innovations, it's going to have to be
in the cars in order to expose that captive audience to a fair hearing of
HD-AM for an interest to be generated. (This, despite the fact that a
majority of listening is not in cars.) But for those listeners who would
have to actively pursue an HD experience without current regular AM
usage...I'm not seeing it.

Cars are where Americans are forced to get a new radio. Obviously, there is
a trickle down aspect, as not everyone buys new cars (ever) and not everyone
buys a new car every year or two. But this is the opportunity for AM. It is
not an overnighter, but the band is fading, not exploding.

So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You and
I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener centric
product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM is
unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside of
controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is more
interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for some time
to come.

We are years away from being able to evaluate listener response, which will
be based on product demand. But the few reports that have started coming in
are favorable. On the FM side, we put a Tejano format on last week ont he
KLTN HD2 channel, and we have registered several hundred calls (the format
is on a marginal AM as well) asking about how to buy radios and all were
very excited. This, perhaps and even hopefully will rub off on AM.





Is it true that you only started using "Eduardo" in 2000? How does this
use of this name promote your business?

It's true! Right about that time he ceased being David_Gleason and became David
Eduardo on the net.

Now he claims to have been baptized 'Eduardo' in 1947, up in Cleveland, Ohio. He
was born David Frackelton Gleason in 1946.

One wonders why, when he spent so much time in Mexico, Ecuador, San Juan, etc., he
did not use the 'Eduardo' shtick at that time? He had business cards printed,
signed letters to listeners, was on HCJB, had his name in radio publications, both
professional and hobby (most often appearing as David Gleason and at times as
David F. Gleason) and NEVER once does the name 'Eduardo' ever come up.

If one looks at his resume page, one very telling item is his mothers death notice
which appears to be dated 1997 which lists her survivors as:

Carolyn G. Oberndorf, David Gleason, H. Lansing Vail, Thomas V. H. Vail, Jane
Vaughn and Stanton K. Gleason.

Wonder why David didn't at least get an F. tossed in there, let alone an E. F.?
At least his stepbrother got the V. H. put in.

Bottom line, he certainly is a Frackelton, but he sure as hell isn't an 'Eduardo',
at least until right around the year 2000 when he adopted that shtick, apparently
right around the time he discovered that he could check off a box on the Census
form and become an instant Hispanic.

Most likely somehow all related to his business activities.

dxAce


Hmmm. That is interesting. I also noticed that in 2004 in San Diego he
participated in a panel discussion about the future of radio as "David
Gleason". A link is he

http://tinyurl.com/l7mr8

He's obviously got some kind of scam going.

Also, I don't know whether this has been posted before, but the
following might explain why Tardo wants to disrupt the activities of
RRS. Turns out he just plain old doesn't like DXers and "took his Drake
to the dumpster" out of disgust:

************************************************** ***********
************************************************** ***********

KTNQ is no longer testing. IBOC is on 6 A to 6 P permanently. We
believe it may be the only one on the West Coast in regular operation
(David Gleason, Univisi?n Radio, ibid.)

So, did you guys forget to notify the FCC of your IBOC operation?
Notification is supposed to take place within 10 days from your
startup date (Barry McLarnon, VE3JF, Ottawa, ON, ibid.)

The FCC list is hardly complete. It is missing several hundred
stations that have notified of intent and are installing now. Just in
my company, there are 16 stations installing the gear and several
already running; they were among the original Ibiquity signers. I'd
say that the FCC is simply not paying much attention to the list
(Gleason, ibid.)

I'm sure they don't care about intent, or who's signed up with
Ibiquity, but you DO have to formally notify them soon after you
actually start transmitting IBOC. If you don't, then I'd say you are
operating illegally. Of course, that doesn't seem to matter much
these days (Barry McLarnon, VE3JF, Ottawa, ON, ibid.)

Barry, KTNQ has done all the necessary notifications. Our company has
never been fined or cited for a major violation. Suggesting we are
operating incorrectly without first checking is personally,
professionally and morally of the highest offense. It's rude, Barry,
and insensitive to a company that has 1,500 employees and probably
does more service to its communities than any other broadcast company
I know of on this planet.

Yes, I am ****ed. And really offended.

Why the hell do you and some other DXers think that every radio
station in the US is operating illegally and incompetently.

[whining jag clipped]

This kind of crap is enough to make me take the Drake to the dumpster
and forget about DXing. And you wonder why stations don't answer
reports anymore --- several of the supposed DXers on this group have
enough misguided venom to turn off any broadcaster. Most of us are
professions, responsible and dedicated. There are over 100 thousand
people working in radio. Nearly none of them are dishonest and
deceitful.

KTNQ had its paperwork for IBOC in order, as it does on every legal
and technical matter, long before you started speculating and pointing
your finger.

I first became an NRC member in 1958. After this insult, 2003 will be
my last if I can get a refund for my remaining months.

And --- you should have seen this message _before_ I edited it (David
Gleason, ibid.)

[snip]

I hope David and Barry can get over what seems to be a pretty mild
misunderstanding. I, for one, value both David's industry insight and
Barry's outstanding DX skills, and I'd hate to lose either of them on
this list or in the club (or at the convention this fall!!!) s (Scott
Fybush, NY, ibid.)

The tone of the Barry-gram was simply so dismissive and rude, that I
am disposing of the Drake, already wrote to NRC to cancel membership
and am out of here. This is like being a conservative at the annual
Marx-Engels Awards (Gleason, ibid.)

I would urge that this thread be terminated (NRC-AM Moderator, ibid.)

************************************************** ********
************************************************** ********

It looks like Tardo never really got this tantrum out of his system and
is now taking it out on RRS. Talk about a prima donna!

Yes, I had read that previously but had forgotten about the Drake comment.

Sacrilege!

Oh yeah, he has indicated to me that he currently has a Drake R8B and two R75's.

So I wonder if he ever actually disposed of the Drake, or whether that was yet more of
Edweenies BS?

IBOC Crap News
 

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Steve wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Steve wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in AM
content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest in
users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio quality....if
there is no interest in the programming, there will be little interest in
how good it may or may not sound.

Viscious circle there... until there is an audio quality that under-45's can
tolerate, there will be no programming. And as the clock ticks, the band
dies.

The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be a
natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new radio
in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on both
bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling going on.
In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some encouraging
acceptance.

That is exactly what will be the make-or-break as to AM. FM is healthy. It
will become healthier with HD 2 channels. It can potentially drage AM back
into the game. This is why none of the big operators has sold a viable AM in
years... all believe the value will be enhanced by HD. That is a
many-billion-dollar gamble.

So, as with most radio techological innovations, it's going to have to be
in the cars in order to expose that captive audience to a fair hearing of
HD-AM for an interest to be generated. (This, despite the fact that a
majority of listening is not in cars.) But for those listeners who would
have to actively pursue an HD experience without current regular AM
usage...I'm not seeing it.

Cars are where Americans are forced to get a new radio. Obviously, there is
a trickle down aspect, as not everyone buys new cars (ever) and not everyone
buys a new car every year or two. But this is the opportunity for AM. It is
not an overnighter, but the band is fading, not exploding.

So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You and
I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener centric
product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM is
unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside of
controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is more
interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for some time
to come.

We are years away from being able to evaluate listener response, which will
be based on product demand. But the few reports that have started coming in
are favorable. On the FM side, we put a Tejano format on last week ont he
KLTN HD2 channel, and we have registered several hundred calls (the format
is on a marginal AM as well) asking about how to buy radios and all were
very excited. This, perhaps and even hopefully will rub off on AM.





Is it true that you only started using "Eduardo" in 2000? How does this
use of this name promote your business?

It's true! Right about that time he ceased being David_Gleason and became David
Eduardo on the net.

Now he claims to have been baptized 'Eduardo' in 1947, up in Cleveland, Ohio. He
was born David Frackelton Gleason in 1946.

One wonders why, when he spent so much time in Mexico, Ecuador, San Juan, etc., he
did not use the 'Eduardo' shtick at that time? He had business cards printed,
signed letters to listeners, was on HCJB, had his name in radio publications, both
professional and hobby (most often appearing as David Gleason and at times as
David F. Gleason) and NEVER once does the name 'Eduardo' ever come up.

If one looks at his resume page, one very telling item is his mothers death notice
which appears to be dated 1997 which lists her survivors as:

Carolyn G. Oberndorf, David Gleason, H. Lansing Vail, Thomas V. H. Vail, Jane
Vaughn and Stanton K. Gleason.

Wonder why David didn't at least get an F. tossed in there, let alone an E. F.?
At least his stepbrother got the V. H. put in.

Bottom line, he certainly is a Frackelton, but he sure as hell isn't an 'Eduardo',
at least until right around the year 2000 when he adopted that shtick, apparently
right around the time he discovered that he could check off a box on the Census
form and become an instant Hispanic.

Most likely somehow all related to his business activities.

dxAce


Hmmm. That is interesting. I also noticed that in 2004 in San Diego he
participated in a panel discussion about the future of radio as "David
Gleason". A link is he

http://tinyurl.com/l7mr8

He's obviously got some kind of scam going.

Also, I don't know whether this has been posted before, but the
following might explain why Tardo wants to disrupt the activities of
RRS. Turns out he just plain old doesn't like DXers and "took his Drake
to the dumpster" out of disgust:

************************************************** ***********
************************************************** ***********

KTNQ is no longer testing. IBOC is on 6 A to 6 P permanently. We
believe it may be the only one on the West Coast in regular operation
(David Gleason, Univisi?n Radio, ibid.)

So, did you guys forget to notify the FCC of your IBOC operation?
Notification is supposed to take place within 10 days from your
startup date (Barry McLarnon, VE3JF, Ottawa, ON, ibid.)

The FCC list is hardly complete. It is missing several hundred
stations that have notified of intent and are installing now. Just in
my company, there are 16 stations installing the gear and several
already running; they were among the original Ibiquity signers. I'd
say that the FCC is simply not paying much attention to the list
(Gleason, ibid.)

I'm sure they don't care about intent, or who's signed up with
Ibiquity, but you DO have to formally notify them soon after you
actually start transmitting IBOC. If you don't, then I'd say you are
operating illegally. Of course, that doesn't seem to matter much
these days (Barry McLarnon, VE3JF, Ottawa, ON, ibid.)

Barry, KTNQ has done all the necessary notifications. Our company has
never been fined or cited for a major violation. Suggesting we are
operating incorrectly without first checking is personally,
professionally and morally of the highest offense. It's rude, Barry,
and insensitive to a company that has 1,500 employees and probably
does more service to its communities than any other broadcast company
I know of on this planet.

Yes, I am ****ed. And really offended.

Why the hell do you and some other DXers think that every radio
station in the US is operating illegally and incompetently.

[whining jag clipped]

This kind of crap is enough to make me take the Drake to the dumpster
and forget about DXing. And you wonder why stations don't answer
reports anymore --- several of the supposed DXers on this group have
enough misguided venom to turn off any broadcaster. Most of us are
professions, responsible and dedicated. There are over 100 thousand
people working in radio. Nearly none of them are dishonest and
deceitful.

KTNQ had its paperwork for IBOC in order, as it does on every legal
and technical matter, long before you started speculating and pointing
your finger.

I first became an NRC member in 1958. After this insult, 2003 will be
my last if I can get a refund for my remaining months.

And --- you should have seen this message _before_ I edited it (David
Gleason, ibid.)

[snip]

I hope David and Barry can get over what seems to be a pretty mild
misunderstanding. I, for one, value both David's industry insight and
Barry's outstanding DX skills, and I'd hate to lose either of them on
this list or in the club (or at the convention this fall!!!) s (Scott
Fybush, NY, ibid.)

The tone of the Barry-gram was simply so dismissive and rude, that I
am disposing of the Drake, already wrote to NRC to cancel membership
and am out of here. This is like being a conservative at the annual
Marx-Engels Awards (Gleason, ibid.)

I would urge that this thread be terminated (NRC-AM Moderator, ibid.)

************************************************** ********
************************************************** ********

It looks like Tardo never really got this tantrum out of his system and
is now taking it out on RRS. Talk about a prima donna!

Yes, I had read that previously but had forgotten about the Drake comment.

Sacrilege!

Oh yeah, he has indicated to me that he currently has a Drake R8B and two R75's.

So I wonder if he ever actually disposed of the Drake, or whether that was yet more of
Edweenies BS?

From alt.politics.immigration on June 28 2006:

"I own two of them [referring to the R75's]. Also a Drake and a TenTec."

I seem to recall him saying the Drake was an R8B, but have not yet found that quote.