On Apr 12, 8:20*am, dave wrote:
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...01148125546802...

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Dr Ramana warned that it would likely take several months without any
more setbacks before the crisis can be declared stable.

"What we're seeing is a lot of the systems were taken out during the
tsunami and explosions," he added, "The lack of power to circulate the
water is a problem, so there aren t going to be any quick fixes for
these things."

Olson also fears that if the core meltdowns get to the groundwater under
the plant, "You have an explosive force that is like putting dynamite
under the site. The problem is if you get this molten fuel into that
water it could cause a steam explosion."

"Since unit two is showing signs of fission happening, the chances of
something more catastrophic happening at that site are increasing,"
Olson added, "People are acting like the worst is over, and that is just
not understanding the real issues here as far as the radiological impacts.."

She also pointed out that the fuel pool in reactor No. 3 "is gone,
according to recent photos. There is no fuel there. The reactor fuel
pool in No. 3 is gone. Where did it go?"

Chernobyl Contaminated and Polluted the Land
Area for a 100 to 1000 Kilometres around it with
Multi-Generational Radioactivity.

The Japanese will be pumping over a Million Gallons of
Contaminated and Polluted Radioactive Waste Water
into the Worlds Oceans and spreading Radioactive
Toxic Waters all around the World; with the potential
to Toxicify All Sea Food for Years if not Generations.

JAPAN CRIMINAL POLLUTERS ON A GLOBAL SCALE !

and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF

Regarding those crippled Yapanee Nuke plants, those Yapanee people act
like they don't know what the Sheet they are doing!
cuhulin

Wow Roy.
I didn'tunderstand all that. How sure are you of your surce, does she know
her stuff?

Thanks for posting it

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On Apr 12, 8:20 am, dave wrote:
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...01148125546802...

Permanent interdiction

Dr Ramana warned that it would likely take several months without any
more setbacks before the crisis can be declared stable.

"What we're seeing is a lot of the systems were taken out during the
tsunami and explosions," he added, "The lack of power to circulate the
water is a problem, so there aren t going to be any quick fixes for
these things."

Olson also fears that if the core meltdowns get to the groundwater under
the plant, "You have an explosive force that is like putting dynamite
under the site. The problem is if you get this molten fuel into that
water it could cause a steam explosion."

"Since unit two is showing signs of fission happening, the chances of
something more catastrophic happening at that site are increasing,"
Olson added, "People are acting like the worst is over, and that is just
not understanding the real issues here as far as the radiological
impacts."

She also pointed out that the fuel pool in reactor No. 3 "is gone,
according to recent photos. There is no fuel there. The reactor fuel
pool in No. 3 is gone. Where did it go?"

Chernobyl Contaminated and Polluted the Land
Area for a 100 to 1000 Kilometres around it with
Multi-Generational Radioactivity.

The Japanese will be pumping over a Million Gallons of
Contaminated and Polluted Radioactive Waste Water
into the Worlds Oceans and spreading Radioactive
Toxic Waters all around the World; with the potential
to Toxicify All Sea Food for Years if not Generations.

JAPAN CRIMINAL POLLUTERS ON A GLOBAL SCALE !

and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF

On Apr 12, 4:40*pm, RHF wrote:
On Apr 12, 8:20*am, dave wrote:









http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...01148125546802...

Permanent interdiction

Dr Ramana warned that it would likely take several months without any
more setbacks before the crisis can be declared stable.

"What we're seeing is a lot of the systems were taken out during the
tsunami and explosions," he added, "The lack of power to circulate the
water is a problem, so there aren t going to be any quick fixes for
these things."

Olson also fears that if the core meltdowns get to the groundwater under
the plant, "You have an explosive force that is like putting dynamite
under the site. The problem is if you get this molten fuel into that
water it could cause a steam explosion."

"Since unit two is showing signs of fission happening, the chances of
something more catastrophic happening at that site are increasing,"
Olson added, "People are acting like the worst is over, and that is just
not understanding the real issues here as far as the radiological impacts."

She also pointed out that the fuel pool in reactor No. 3 "is gone,
according to recent photos. There is no fuel there. The reactor fuel
pool in No. 3 is gone. Where did it go?"

Chernobyl Contaminated and Polluted the Land
Area for a 100 to 1000 Kilometres around it with
Multi-Generational Radioactivity.

The Japanese will be pumping over a Million Gallons of
Contaminated and Polluted Radioactive Waste Water
into the Worlds Oceans and spreading Radioactive
Toxic Waters all around the World; with the potential
to Toxicify All Sea Food for Years if not Generations.

JAPAN CRIMINAL POLLUTERS ON A GLOBAL SCALE !

and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF
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Roy - did you make this up?

Frankly, not at all. A million gallons of the water in question -
even a billion gallons - spread among the all the oceans, will result
in concentrations of toxins and levels of radiation almost
unmeasurable, assuming perfect mixing (which is a fair assumption
worldwide, but a less than satisfactory assumption for the water
immediately near Japan in the short term). The oceans of the world
contain about 326,000,000,000,000,000,000 gallons of water, and the
addition of even a billion contaminated gallons would be diluted by a
factor of 326,000,000,000 times. That's less than 1/3 part per 100
billion on average, a VERY tiny concentration. This would be hard to
detect under the best of circumstances, and I'd bet good money that
increases in cancer rates as a result would be statistically
insignificant, much less than having a well-used highway near your
home, for example.

Contaminated *rainwater*, which could *only* come from cloud droplets
forming on radioactive dust particles and by no other method, falling
on the ocean would be nearly inconsequential after a couple of
seconds. Pretty minor on land too.

Make no mistake - I am not a fan of U and PU fission reactors - but
this fear is just not scientifically based at all. You should really
stop being such a fearmonger.

The more critical problem is when this material is taken up by the
local biota near Japan that feeds ever higher creatures on the food
chain. Higher creatures tend to concentrate toxins, which not only
hurts them but any critters that eat them. The fish nearby may be
unsafe to eat for animals or humans for quite awhile, and the local
marine mammal population will probably suffer even more than it
already does (I refer, of course, to the brutal mass slaughter of
dolphins in Japan).

The problem Dave relates, that of further meltdown and steam
explosion, is demonstrably more immediate and dangerous locally.
Earthwide, however, not a big deal, for the same reason - dilution.
If it goes on for a LONG time, like years, I suppose it could have
effects on populations of nearby Pacific Islands, assuming favorable
wind patterns...but I'd have to see some better analysis to be
convinced.

That, from a die-hard environmentalist.

Bruce Jensen

Well Said Bruce!

On Apr 12, 8:16*pm, "Burr" wrote:

- Wow Roy.
- I didn't understand all that.
- How sure are you of your surce,
- does she know her stuff?
-
-*Thanks for posting it
-
- --
- Burr

The Japanese right now are doing a lot of face saving
-so- They Can Not Be Trusted for the Whole Truth.

On 4/13/2011 3:39 AM, RHF wrote:

Plus The Obama-Regime Never Could Be Trusted
for the Truth.

Yeah, it's almost enough to make you long for the George W. Bush good
old days of "the Truth"...like those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
that were in the north...and south...and east...and west.

Bwaaahahahahahaha!

On 4/12/2011 7:40 PM, RHF wrote:

JAPAN CRIMINAL POLLUTERS ON A GLOBAL SCALE !

So tell us, Roy...just exactly how did those evil Japanese cause that
earthquake and tsunami to cause all that "criminal pollution".

On 04/12/2011 04:47 PM, wrote:
Regarding those crippled Yapanee Nuke plants, those Yapanee people act
like they don't know what the Sheet they are doing!
cuhulin



The leading experts in many fields are applying themselves to that mess.
This is a global catastrophe

On 04/12/2011 09:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


The problem Dave relates, that of further meltdown and steam
explosion, is demonstrably more immediate and dangerous locally.
Earthwide, however, not a big deal, for the same reason - dilution.
If it goes on for a LONG time, like years, I suppose it could have
effects on populations of nearby Pacific Islands, assuming favorable
wind patterns...but I'd have to see some better analysis to be
convinced.

That, from a die-hard environmentalist.

Bruce Jensen

You can't dilute radioactive particles and make them less mutagenic; you
are just dispersing them more.

When the secondary containment of F.D. reactor 3 exploded three days
into the incident its spent fuel (waste) pond was pulverized and the
contents were scattered for many kilometers around the plant. At that
point the incident was in Chernobyl category 7 territory, but the
authorities were afraid to panic rescue workers away from the region.