On May 26, 12:23*am, oldwifetale wrote:
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It is writen when they ring in their new Age of Aquarius on December
21,2012

Its going to be worse than the past!

How can you know?
Just because "it's written"?

The December 21st date in 2012 is derived from the Mayan calendars
which do not specifically or even allegorically allude to an "Age of
Aquarius".

The 'ages' of the zodiac, if consisting of 12 signs, are approximately
2160 years long based on the precession of the equinoxes. The
precession rate is about 1 degree per 72 years. If the beginning of
the "Age of Aquarius" is 2012, then the "Age of Pisces" would have
commenced around 48 BCE. It is possible (the timing). Most likely the
"Age of Aquarius" marks a reversal in the polarity of the 'Great
Year' (25,920 - 26,000 years), as indicated by the Egyptian Sphinx -
it would be a point that is about 13,000 years after the "Age of Leo"
marked the spring equinox.

If the zodiac being considered consists of 13 signs rather than 12,
then the length of each 'age' would be somewhat shorter, just under
2000 years. That is also possible (the timing).

There really is no reason to assume that *Freemasons* or even *Knights
Templar* ever wrote anything concerning the date of December 21, 2012
unless you are suggesting pre-Columbian contact, and knowledge (and
correct interpretation) of the Mayan calendars - since both groups
actually existed before 1492.

*Or* perhaps you're trying to say that this precise date was non-
arbitrarily selected as a catastrophic 'end point' by two separate
groups of people on both sides of the Atlantic ocean, indicating a
well-hidden awareness of a planetary cycle, and one that was not held
exclusively by people in either the western or eastern hemisphere.

Is that what you're suggesting?

Sure it is. And in that case, you may be on to something.

(gawd, i'm ornery...)

"It is written,so shall it be done"

The Sunworshipers base all their belief on astrology and mythology!

On May 26, 3:46*pm, joeturn wrote:
On May 26, 12:23*am, oldwifetale wrote:





But enough about *the present*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It is writen when they ring in their new Age of Aquarius on December
21,2012

Its going to be worse than the past!

How can you know?
Just because "it's written"?

The December 21st date in 2012 is derived from the Mayan calendars
which do not specifically or even allegorically allude to an "Age of
Aquarius".

The 'ages' of the zodiac, if consisting of 12 signs, are approximately
2160 years long based on the precession of the equinoxes. The
precession rate is about 1 degree per 72 years. If the beginning of
the "Age of Aquarius" is 2012, then the "Age of Pisces" would have
commenced around 48 BCE. It is possible (the timing). Most likely the
"Age of Aquarius" marks a reversal in the polarity of the 'Great
Year' (25,920 - 26,000 years), as indicated by the Egyptian Sphinx -
it would be a point that is about 13,000 years after the "Age of Leo"
marked the spring equinox.

If the zodiac being considered consists of 13 signs rather than 12,
then the length of each 'age' would be somewhat shorter, just under
2000 years. That is also possible (the timing).

There really is no reason to assume that *Freemasons* or even *Knights
Templar* ever wrote anything concerning the date of December 21, 2012
unless you are suggesting pre-Columbian contact, and knowledge (and
correct interpretation) of the Mayan calendars - since both groups
actually existed before 1492.

*Or* perhaps you're trying to say that this precise date was non-
arbitrarily selected as a catastrophic 'end point' by two separate
groups of people on both sides of the Atlantic ocean, indicating a
well-hidden awareness of a planetary cycle, and one that was not held
exclusively by people in either the western or eastern hemisphere.

Is that what you're suggesting?

Sure it is. And in that case, you may be on to something.

(gawd, i'm ornery...)

"It is written,so shall it be done"

The Sunworshipers base all their belief on astrology and mythology!- Hide quoted text -

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Asia is NOT attacking The USA and NATO: Millions are Dying because the
United Snakes and Europe are Attacking the Innocent People of the
Middle East

On May 29, 12:33*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/29/2011 12:16 AM, wrote:





On May 26, 3:46 pm, *wrote:
On May 26, 12:23 am, *wrote:

But enough about *the present*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It is writen when they ring in their new Age of Aquarius on December
21,2012

Its going to be worse than the past!

How can you know?
Just because "it's written"?

The December 21st date in 2012 is derived from the Mayan calendars
which do not specifically or even allegorically allude to an "Age of
Aquarius".

The 'ages' of the zodiac, if consisting of 12 signs, are approximately
2160 years long based on the precession of the equinoxes. The
precession rate is about 1 degree per 72 years. If the beginning of
the "Age of Aquarius" is 2012, then the "Age of Pisces" would have
commenced around 48 BCE. It is possible (the timing). Most likely the
"Age of Aquarius" marks a reversal in the polarity of the 'Great
Year' (25,920 - 26,000 years), as indicated by the Egyptian Sphinx -
it would be a point that is about 13,000 years after the "Age of Leo"
marked the spring equinox.

If the zodiac being considered consists of 13 signs rather than 12,
then the length of each 'age' would be somewhat shorter, just under
2000 years. That is also possible (the timing).

There really is no reason to assume that *Freemasons* or even *Knights
Templar* ever wrote anything concerning the date of December 21, 2012
unless you are suggesting pre-Columbian contact, and knowledge (and
correct interpretation) of the Mayan calendars - since both groups
actually existed before 1492.

*Or* perhaps you're trying to say that this precise date was non-
arbitrarily selected as a catastrophic 'end point' by two separate
groups of people on both sides of the Atlantic ocean, indicating a
well-hidden awareness of a planetary cycle, and one that was not held
exclusively by people in either the western or eastern hemisphere.

Is that what you're suggesting?

Sure it is. And in that case, you may be on to something.

(gawd, i'm ornery...)

"It is written,so shall it be done"

The Sunworshipers base all their belief on astrology and mythology!- Hide quoted text -

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Asia is NOT attacking The USA and NATO: Millions are Dying because the
United Snakes and Europe are Attacking the Innocent People of the
Middle East

Well, recently it was found that Libya having 5 times the oil reserves
previously thought helps spark the interest of the shadow government.

The fact that Libya is solvent and not under tons of debt is one more
incentive.

The fact that Libya has considerable gold reserves it but another incentive.

The fact that Libya provide free medical care/drugs and education up to
the PhD levels is another incentive, the shadow government does not like
its' slaves expecting the same ...

Etc., etc., etc.

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, Khadaffi is aligned with other parts of Africa, and he had
supported the Palestinian cause, his country does have a social net,
and if the neo-liberals of US and the Nato get control of Lybia, the
social net may be erased. Als Khadaffi did not do the Lockerbie jet
liner bombing. That was done by the CIA and European intelligence
agencies. Just like with Malosovic, the corrupt international court at
the Hague couldn't convict him, so NATO and the US just poisoned him
to death in prison. Welsey Clark told Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! in
2003, that the US was going to attack these countries, Iraq, Iran,
Afghanistan, Lybia, Somalia, and two others I can't remember off the
top of my head. Since then they have all been attacked, with some sort
of invented pretexts like using B-52 for humanitarian purposes.

On May 30, 6:15*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 2:31 AM, joeturn wrote:





On May 30, 5:25 am, John *wrote:
On 5/30/2011 2:22 AM, joeturn wrote:

...
The Constitution went out the window in 1935.when Americas bankruptcy
was declared legal.All previous law cases were never again to be used
as a refference to the new sepreme law of the land.Everything has been
rattified not to use the original constitution as a legitament
document!

The Slave owners Constitution has be replaced with *National Socialism
guidelines,to bring about One World Order/government.

Yeah, that is going to happen too ... over a bunch of dead patriots bodies!

ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

One of our fore fathers made sure of it.Read US.INC.goes to geneva in
1930.

Roosevelt destroied the original constituion!

http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html

I hate to bring this to your attention, but no amendments have been made
to the Constitution in recent times to have nullified it ...

What have you been smoking?

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

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Same as you we are both smoking the UCC but you cant see it.Our old
constitution does not apply to anyone that is a citizen of the USA.We
are simply worker bees to pay off the USA Bankrutcy debt.Our Solvern
Queen Mom owns the USA and calls all the shots and she does not apply
the constitution she goes by the UCC.

You forgot the creature from Jekyll Island.Ga.

You are living in a bubble John Smith you concentrate on small issues
such as politics when you should be looking at the big picture. At
least you dont have a grammar hangup that overides your thought
prossess but it is some else that causes you not to be able to grasp
reality.

On May 30, 6:17*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 3:15 AM, joeturn wrote:

Soo now you see our Constitution is not worth the paper it was written
on.
It was replaced with the "Universal Commercial Code" this is now the
supreme law of the land.

If it violates the Constitution, it is unconstitutional ...

You need to realize that criminals can say anything, do anything, but,
mostly, it will just be criminal ...

Regards,
JS

The only thing that is constitutional is a daily ****,your belief in
freedom and Democracy is costing millions to die John Smith.

"Freedoms just another word for nothing left to loose"
Joan Baez

On May 30, 6:17*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 3:15 AM, joeturn wrote:

Soo now you see our Constitution is not worth the paper it was written
on.
It was replaced with the "Universal Commercial Code" this is now the
supreme law of the land.

If it violates the Constitution, it is unconstitutional ...

You need to realize that criminals can say anything, do anything, but,
mostly, it will just be criminal ...

Regards,
JS




The only thing that is constitutional is a daily ****,your belief in
freedom and Democracy is costing millions to die John Smith.

"Freedoms just another word for nothing left to loose"
Janis Joplin

On May 30, 6:17*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 3:15 AM, joeturn wrote:

Soo now you see our Constitution is not worth the paper it was written
on.
It was replaced with the "Universal Commercial Code" this is now the
supreme law of the land.

If it violates the Constitution, it is unconstitutional ...

You need to realize that criminals can say anything, do anything, but,
mostly, it will just be criminal ...

Regards,
JS




The only thing that is constitutional is a daily ****,your belief in
freedom and Democracy is costing millions to die John Smith.

"Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose"
Janis Joplin

On May 30, 5:43*am, joeturn wrote:
On May 30, 5:38*am, joeturn wrote:





On May 30, 5:25*am, John Smith wrote:

On 5/30/2011 2:22 AM, joeturn wrote:

...
The Constitution went out the window in 1935.when Americas bankruptcy
was declared legal.All previous law cases were never again to be used
as a refference to the new sepreme law of the land.Everything has been
rattified not to use the original constitution as a legitament
document!

The Slave owners Constitution has be replaced with *National Socialism
guidelines,to bring about One World Order/government.

Yeah, that is going to happen too ... over a bunch of dead patriots bodies!

ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

It was Roosevelts job to destroy the original Constitution.They put
him in office to make sure it took place as planned!

Scroll down and read:
*US.INC.GOES TO GENEVA 1930's

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Erie vs. Thompkins sealed our fate!

Hince the word "railroaded" became public knowlege of the adverse
affect on the US CONSTITUTION.

On 5/30/2011 1:48 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
Same as you we are both smoking the UCC but you cant see it.Our old
constitution does not apply to anyone that is a citizen of the USA.We
are simply worker bees to pay off the USA Bankrutcy debt.Our Solvern
Queen Mom owns the USA and calls all the shots and she does not apply
the constitution she goes by the UCC.

You forgot the creature from Jekyll Island.Ga.

You are living in a bubble John Smith you concentrate on small issues
such as politics when you should be looking at the big picture. At
least you dont have a grammar hangup that overides your thought
prossess but it is some else that causes you not to be able to grasp
reality.

I am simply no reason for you to deny and ignore Constitutional law, the
only legal law of the land ...

I am afraid your reasons will have to stand on their own.

Regards,
JS

On May 30, 6:47*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 1:48 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
Same as you we are both smoking the UCC but you cant see it.Our old
constitution does not apply to anyone that is a citizen of the USA.We
are simply worker bees to pay off the USA Bankrutcy debt.Our Solvern
Queen Mom owns the USA *and calls all the shots and she does not apply
the constitution she goes by the UCC.

You forgot the creature from Jekyll Island.Ga.

You are living in a bubble John Smith you concentrate on small issues
such as politics when you should be looking at the big picture. At
least you dont have a grammar hangup that overides your thought
prossess but it is some else that causes you not to be able to grasp
reality.

I am simply no reason for you to deny and ignore Constitutional law, the
only legal law of the land ...

I am afraid your reasons will have to stand on their own.

Regards,
JS

WAKE UP JOHN! smell the coffee its a litterbox!

http://www.freedom-school.com/ucc-and-you.pdf

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread555233/pg1