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Old September 23rd 03, 07:14 PM
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Hello,

Can someone suggest a CW only, all tube tranceiver for me? Nothing
QRP, more like between 20 and 100 watts, no transmitter/receiver
separate boxes, and no SSB transmitting capability. I want glowing
tubes and CW, in one box (power supply, of course, on the side).

Thanks!

MW
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Old September 23rd 03, 08:36 PM
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MW,

You just described the venerable Heathkit HW-16! Here are
the basic characteristics:
- All tube-type (OK, it has one transistor, but only one!)
- covers 250 KHz of bandspread on 80, 40, and 15 meters
- CW only
- VFO receive
- crystal transmit (can also use HG-10B external VFO)
- built-in 115 VAC p/s
- full break-in keying with sidetone
- single-signal receiver
- power output is about 65 Watts on 80, 50 Watts on 40,
and 35 Watts on 15
These can be bought in working condition for about $75 give
or take a few, and the VFO goes for $50 to $75. Crystals are
getting "spendy" these days ($10 to $20 each these days). I
would spend the extra money and buy the VFO. For about $150,
you'll have a lot of fun! Oh, you will need a speaker, too.
Any 8-Ohm communications speaker will do fine.

I just picked up an HW-16 with HG-10B at a swap meet this past
weekend. I got 'em running last night, although I still need
to perform alignment on the VFO and give it a light cleaning.
No, they're not for sale... been wanting a set for myself for
a while now!

73,
Dean K5DH


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Hello,

Can someone suggest a CW only, all tube tranceiver for me? Nothing
QRP, more like between 20 and 100 watts, no transmitter/receiver
separate boxes, and no SSB transmitting capability. I want glowing
tubes and CW, in one box (power supply, of course, on the side).

Thanks!

MW


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Old September 23rd 03, 10:29 PM
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K5DH wrote:


I just picked up an HW-16 with HG-10B at a swap meet this past
weekend. I got 'em running last night, although I still need
to perform alignment on the VFO and give it a light cleaning.
No, they're not for sale... been wanting a set for myself for
a while now!

73,
Dean K5DH


And its worth the $15-20 bux to plunk down for a new xtal and move 15 to
20 meters. Easy mod, works great.

-Bill

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K5DH wrote:


I just picked up an HW-16 with HG-10B at a swap meet this past
weekend. I got 'em running last night, although I still need
to perform alignment on the VFO and give it a light cleaning.
No, they're not for sale... been wanting a set for myself for
a while now!

73,
Dean K5DH


And its worth the $15-20 bux to plunk down for a new xtal and move 15 to
20 meters. Easy mod, works great.

-Bill

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MW,

You just described the venerable Heathkit HW-16! Here are
the basic characteristics:
- All tube-type (OK, it has one transistor, but only one!)
- covers 250 KHz of bandspread on 80, 40, and 15 meters
- CW only
- VFO receive
- crystal transmit (can also use HG-10B external VFO)
- built-in 115 VAC p/s
- full break-in keying with sidetone
- single-signal receiver
- power output is about 65 Watts on 80, 50 Watts on 40,
and 35 Watts on 15
These can be bought in working condition for about $75 give
or take a few, and the VFO goes for $50 to $75. Crystals are
getting "spendy" these days ($10 to $20 each these days). I
would spend the extra money and buy the VFO. For about $150,
you'll have a lot of fun! Oh, you will need a speaker, too.
Any 8-Ohm communications speaker will do fine.

I just picked up an HW-16 with HG-10B at a swap meet this past
weekend. I got 'em running last night, although I still need
to perform alignment on the VFO and give it a light cleaning.
No, they're not for sale... been wanting a set for myself for
a while now!

73,
Dean K5DH


In article ,
says...

Hello,

Can someone suggest a CW only, all tube tranceiver for me? Nothing
QRP, more like between 20 and 100 watts, no transmitter/receiver
separate boxes, and no SSB transmitting capability. I want glowing
tubes and CW, in one box (power supply, of course, on the side).

Thanks!

MW




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Old September 24th 03, 11:29 AM
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 01:09:23 UTC, (N2EY) wrote:

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(M Wilson) writes:

Can someone suggest a CW only, all tube tranceiver for me? Nothing
QRP, more like between 20 and 100 watts, no transmitter/receiver
separate boxes, and no SSB transmitting capability. I want glowing
tubes and CW, in one box (power supply, of course, on the side).


What you describe is what I've been seeking for 30+ years. There ain't none
made. So I built my own. Three of them, in fact. My latest one runs 100

watts
out on 80, 40, and 20, has RIT, cascaded 8 pole 500 Hz filters, beam

deflection
mixer, no AGC, dial drive/capacitor from a BC-221, and lots more. The only
semiconductors are a pair of 1N34s in the SWR bridge.

807s in the final, 866As in the power supply....


The result is known as the "Southgate Type 7"

The HW-16 comes close, but it is not a *true* transceiver - it's a

transmitter
and receiver in one box with a common power supply. You have to re-zero the
external VFO every time you QSY.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Suppose you started with a Heathkit SB-101 (the 102 had a solid
state LMO), and removed the mike amp tube.


Not a good idea because the heaters in the '101 are in series-parallel.

It would be a CW only
tube transceiver, 2 6146's give you 100 Watts out.


Yup. But the AGC isn't defeatable. And the pinchdrive dial isn't as solid nor
as slow as some prefer.

Same tricks could be done with the HW-101, too.

You could cascade two Heathkit 400 Hz filters, using the space for
the SSB filter and just jumpering around the switch.


Definite possiblity. Or spend the money on an 8 pole Inrad filter.


Relatively compact. 1 kHz readout, great stability. No RIT though.


Which is a real problem in my book. Might be worth opening up the LMO to add
it.

The same tricks could be applied to the SB-100, which lacks the filter switch.
Or even the venerable HW-100 and HW-101, whose VFOs are not as nice as the
SB-series LMO.

Of course, for "a little more money", one could get an SB-300 or 301 and the
matching SB-400 or 401, and simply not use the SSB.

The Drake TR-4Cw probably comes closest to the original request. The last
version had both a 500Hz filter and RIT. But the dern AGC is not defeatable,
the finals are sweep tubes, and the PTO is solidstate.

For those who like to tinker, a Tempo One might make a good starting point.
Convert finals to 6146s, replace the SSB filter with a 9 MHz Inrad, and install
AGC defeat. Already has RIT and a nice dial.

You can probably buy a fixer for about $150.
--


The Southgate Type 7 cost me less than $100. But I have a big junkbox.

73 de Jim, N2EY


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