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Old May 25th 05, 05:22 AM
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Default People loving xian NC church sign says: " Flush a Koran down a toilet " (nooz)

And here friends, for your reading enjoyment
is an excellent example of the core group
of Red State xian Bush voters who 'hate Islam
but love Islamics.......' : ) : ) : ) ENJOY! (story below)

Let's see now if this event precipitates another near-insanity atmosphere
amongst the masses of the populace in Iraq and elsewhere
along with a healthy new round of IED and Car Bomb events
directed at US personnel in the region eh...? Thanks you supremely
ignorant Bible-Belt A-H's ! Praize da Laaaaawd!!!

I wonder if this have shown up on Al Jazeera yet?

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http://www.thedigitalcourier.com/art...ews/news01.txt
By JOSH HUMPHRIES Daily Courier Staff Writer

FOREST CITY NC -- A sign in front of a Baptist church
on one of the most traveled highways in the county stirred
controversy over religious tolerance and first-amendment
rights this weekend. A sign in front of Danieltown Baptist
Church, located at 2361 U.S. 221 south reads "The Koran
needs to be flushed," and the Rev. Creighton Lovelace, pastor
of the church, is not apologizing for the display.

"I believe that it is a statement supporting the word of God and
that it (the Bible) is above all and that any other religious book
that does not teach Christ as savior and lord as the 66 books
of the Bible teaches it, is wrong," said Lovelace. "I knew that
whenever we decided to put that sign up that there would
be people who wouldn't agree with it, and there would be
some that would, and so we just have to stand up for what's right."

Seema Riley, a Muslim, who was born in Pakistan and
reared in New York, was one of those upset by the sign.
She moved to Rutherford County for the "small town friendly"
atmosphere, she said. When she saw the sign on the side
of the highway Saturday she felt angered and threatened.
"We need a certain degree of tolerance," said Riley.
"That sign doesn't really reflect what I think this county is about."

She said that according to Islamic faith, a follower does not
even touch the Koran without going through a ritual cleansing.
Muslims believe the physical book to be a sacred item that is
treated with respect and reverence, much like the image of
Jesus in Christianity, according to a report on National Public
Radio. (NPR) "For someone to put that sign up -- the person
just didn't understand -- didn't take into consideration what
putting up that sign means," said Riley. "I don't think it should
be posted on a sign in public viewing on the highway to create
a hostile environment for me."

The appearance of the sign follows a national news story
from last week. Newsweek magazine retracted a story
reporting that military guards at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay
flushed a copy of the Koran down the toilet during interrogation
of a detainee. The Newsweek story sent Washington in a
frenzy and was blamed for igniting Muslim riots and deaths
abroad, including a particularly violent outburst in Afghanistan.

"Our creed as a Christian, or a Protestant, or a Baptist church
of course we don't have a creed but the bible but we do have
the Baptist faith and message that says that we should cling
to the 66 books of the Holy Bible and any other book
outside of that claiming to know the way of God or claiming
to be God's word is automatically written off and is trying to
defeat people from the way of true righteousness inside of
our viewpoint in how we view the word of God," Lovelace said.

"Putting such a sign in a public place is an un-American
example of intolerance, of aggressive disrespect for other
citizens' deeply held views," said Donald Searing, Burton
Craige Professor of Political Science at the University
of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. "This is the sort of
attitude and action that seriously endangers the liberty
which lies at the heart of our democracy. It is also a good
reminder that just because one may have the legal right to
say something, doing so may not be morally, socially or
politically desirable."

When Lovelace was asked whether he considered
before he put the sign up that there may be some
consequences or that some people may be
angered, he said he was aware of the likelihood of
angering some people. "Well, I thought about it and
I said there may be people who are offended by it but
the way I look at it, Jesus told his followers that if the
world hates you, don't feel bad because they hated
me first," said Lovelace. "If we stand for what is right
and for God's word and for Christianity then the
world is going to condemn us and so right away
when I got a complaint I said 'well somebody's
mad, somebody's offended, so we must be doing
something right.'"

Danieltown Baptist Church belongs to the Sandy
Run Baptist Association and the association's
Director of Missions the Rev. Jim Diehl said that
Lovelace's opinion does not necessarily reflect that
of that organization. "Each of the churches of the
Sandy Run Baptist Association are autonomous bodies,"
said Diehl. "Each church can develop a stance on
doctrinal issues and can develop its own stance on moral issues."
The Rev. Billy Honeycutt, of the Green River Baptist
Association said that he hopes that those who see the
sign keep tolerance in mind. "Respecting religion is important
and respecting other people is important," said Honeycutt.
"Hopefully, a lot of people will have that thought when they
see the sign."

Following the religious controversy at a church in
Waynesville where several members were asked
to leave in what was termed a dispute over
politics, several groups threatened to boycott the
entire town due to the actions of one preacher.
Director of the Rutherford County Chamber of
Commerce Bill Hall said he does not think that
the Danieltown sign will have a negative impact
on the county's tourism or economic vitality.
"It is unfortunate that things like that happen and it
certainly doesn't represent Rutherford County,"
said Hall. "I think that most people will understand
that that is not a common attitude in this community."

Lovelace said he felt it was the Work of God to
display the sign and that no one in the church has
spoken up against it to him. He said the church has
55 members on the roster and he has only received
one angry phone call since the sign was posted.
"We have a good group of people," said Lovelace.
Lovelace said the sign changes every week.
"About Friday or Saturday we will have a new sign,"
he said. "It should state to some effect 'Where are
your treasures? Are they at the flea market or are
they in heaven?'"

Lovelace said that he does not
have anything against the flea market that
recently opened up down the street from the church.
"I enjoy a good flea market, but if people can be
down there at eight o'clock why can't they be at
church at 11," he said.

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A sign in front of Danieltown Baptist
Church, located at 2361 U.S. 221 south reads "The Koran
needs to be flushed," and the Rev. Creighton Lovelace, pastor
of the church, is not apologizing for the display.


Move along folks.

Nothin' to see here, just another American asshole.

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Maybe someone should reply with a sign saying "Flush a Baptist down the
toilet." I'm sure there'd be no end of brick-sh-tting.

Hudley Pearse

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Old May 29th 05, 10:43 AM
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hudleypearse wrote:
Maybe someone should reply with a sign saying "Flush a Baptist down the
toilet." I'm sure there'd be no end of brick-sh-tting.

Hudley Pearse


Yeah, I've been waiting for someone to flush a Bible,
or burn a cross, or light-up a spliff.

If there's anything left to profane, I'm sure we'll get around to it.





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