Selling my Yeasu FT-5200,has extended rx/tx and cross band repeat mods
done.can't find mobile bracket but will include if found before shipping
works great,but with any electronics sold as is no warranty $250.00 plus
shipping and insurance (recemended) from zip code 14215 ( buffalo NY) any
qoestion reply this or
tnx de dave

dvari wrote:
Selling my Yeasu FT-5200,...
but with any electronics sold as is no warranty


Everyone on this group does
guarantee their radios. Why not you?

Everyone on this group does
guarantee their radios. Why not you?

I think that's a residual effect from Ebay. For some reason, it seems that
everyone on Ebay likes to say "As with all electronics, this item is sold
as-is". That means they know something is wrong with it but they don't want to
say, instead of saying "The following things are wrong.." and "works as
described"...
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

I think that's a residual effect from Ebay. For some reason, it seems that
everyone on Ebay likes to say "As with all electronics, this item is sold
as-is". That means they know something is wrong with it but they don't want to
say, instead of saying "The following things are wrong.." and "works as
described"...

I believe you are right. They think the "as-is"
statement gives them a license to sell their junk.
I don't think it will go over too well here.

You may be right BUT...
I sold an item on ebay about a year ago. It was a base type receive preamp that had
an RF sniffer circuit in it with an "on the air light". This was an older unit built
for ham radio. It worked PERFECTLY and was in mint shape. I tracked the item via
the post office and knew when it was delivered and signed for. After a week went by
and I received an email that it did not work. He said the preamp made things worse,
not better. I asked him many questions, like did he hook up the coax cables
correctly, radio and antenna? He said sure, but it did not work. I TOLD HIM it was
fully working here and he either blew out the preamp by hooking up the cables
backwards (out and in mix up) or he had the same unit and swapped "my" working guts
with his broken item and he now wanted to return it for a refund.. I never heard
from him again. Seems like one scenario was correct!! So "as-is" belongs in the
description. Ebay's feedback lets people know what kind of person you are dealing
with.
If someone has ALL POSITIVE feedbacks, say over 20 to infinity, it's a sure bet
that that guy is honorable and speaks the truth in his description!!
When you buy a 5 year old car from a private citizen do you get a warrantee??
just my .02 cents!

73



Harry wrote:

I think that's a residual effect from Ebay. For some reason, it seems that
everyone on Ebay likes to say "As with all electronics, this item is sold
as-is". That means they know something is wrong with it but they don't want to
say, instead of saying "The following things are wrong.." and "works as
described"...

I believe you are right. They think the "as-is"
statement gives them a license to sell their junk.
I don't think it will go over too well here.

I believe you are right. They think the "as-is"
statement gives them a license to sell their junk.
I don't think it will go over too well here.

Yup. I am always skeptical when it comes to auctions that state that a
particular piece of electronics is "untested" and sold "as-is". Any electronics
I sell, I test out to the best of my ability and I always post any known
problems. I think it goes without saying that unless you are a retailer,
nothing you sell used will have a warentee, but you should at least state the
condition that best that you can.
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

You may be right BUT...
SNIP
After a week
went by
and I received an email that it did not work.
SNIP
I TOLD HIM
it was
fully working here and he either blew out the preamp by hooking up the cables
backwards (out and in mix up) or he had the same unit and swapped "my"
working guts
with his broken item and he now wanted to return it for a refund.. I never
heard
from him again. Seems like one scenario was correct!! So "as-is" belongs in
the
description.

Your situation is different from what we're discussing. What I have a problem
with, and I think a lot of people would agree, are people that post messages
here or sell things on Ebay saying "This is a great dualbander, but "as with
all electronics, it is sold as-is"". I've seen many descriptions like that.
Where "as with all electronics" being sold "as-is" came from, I'll never know.
Electronic items, just like any other item, should be sold "as-described", not
"as-is". Warentees aren't needed, just some assurance that the item is as
described with an accurate description of any and all known problems.

When you buy a 5 year old car from a private citizen do you get a warrantee??
just my .02 cents!

From a private citizen, no. From a dealership, maybe a 90 day warentee. Just
like on Ebay - if I sell you a radio, I'm not going to guarentee that it'll be
working 30 days from now, but if you buy it from a business, it'll probably be
warenteed for a period of time. It's all a crap shoot when you buy used, but
it's also why things cost less than new!
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

now how to explain this,BUT I am not a business so there for I can not
grantee it,only that it will not be D.O.A..Just like if damaged in shipment
how goes through the hassle with the shipper? why the seller? where is the
profit if it was bought for a low price or an estate? Would you sell you car
to a private individual and give it a warranty? or is it just amateur radio
stuff that needs it? Or did I run into a bunch of news group trolls like in
alt.2600.warez, or other news groups?
OH YA i just read a few of the for sale postings and i didn't see anyone
garenteeing the stuff! So go troll on someone else,if you don't like
something about there ad or after a few questions then don't buy from them.
"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...
I believe you are right. They think the "as-is"
statement gives them a license to sell their junk.
I don't think it will go over too well here.

Yup. I am always skeptical when it comes to auctions that state that a
particular piece of electronics is "untested" and sold "as-is". Any
electronics
I sell, I test out to the best of my ability and I always post any known
problems. I think it goes without saying that unless you are a retailer,
nothing you sell used will have a warentee, but you should at least state
the
condition that best that you can.
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

OH YA i just read a few of the for sale postings and i didn't see anyone
garenteeing the stuff!

No one is saying you should have a guarentee. You should go back and read all
the replies. All we're questioning is anyone that says that an item is sold
"as-is" (and they include the phrase "as with all electronics" - where that
came from, I have no idea).

All anyone wants is an accurate description of the item being sold, a list of
what's wrong (if anything), and the general feeling that it's been described to
the best of the seller's ability. There is too much use of the phrases "As with
all electronics, this item is sold as-is" and "This item is untested". That
just gives it the appearance that the item is really junk and you're just
trying to cover yourself because you know it's a non-working radio.
Something like "Item is as-described" (after an accurate description is posted)
is more acceptable. I think everyone understands that a radio can be damaged in
shipping, and if that happens, shipping insurance can cover that loss or
repair. I also think that everyone understands that unless there is evidence of
shipping damage, when they take a radio (or any other electronic item) out of
the box, it will function "as-described", but there are no guarentees beyond
that.

I hope that clairifies my position, and what I believe is a lot of other ham's
positions.
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com