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I don't have the time
I really DON'T have time to learn CW, I don't have the time I really DON'T have time to learn CW, Somebody call this guy a WAW-bulance! K0MB (I don't have the time to be a Doctor, but I want a license to practice medicine) |
So Soon we will have our HF freqs.
Then this will be meaningless. "MailfrmPA" wrote in message ... I don't have the time I really DON'T have time to learn CW, I don't have the time I really DON'T have time to learn CW, Somebody call this guy a WAW-bulance! K0MB (I don't have the time to be a Doctor, but I want a license to practice medicine) |
WHAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:23:14 GMT, "Chas" wrote: Andy, I know about time constraints. I, like you have work plus OT, home and family to take care as well, but before I was licensed, I found the time because I was motivated by the fascination of using radio. The studying was simply crammed in when I could. So what's the solution? We're all very busy, Free Licenses now? I'll bet that when CW is dropped, the NCI will change to the NTI (No Test Int.). As I read from their web site & from members, it really seems to be the direction they're going. Chuck WG2A "VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message ... 5WPM Bill, 5WPM, how much more easy does it have to be? The written is simple & the CW test a joke. I know of 7 year olds that passed a 5WPM CW test & are still licensed hams today, no Doctorates, just determined. Chuck WG2A 7 year olds have a lot more time than those of us in the working world with children of our own and spouses going back to school as well as volunteer commitments. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS) Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com |
Gasp! Lord Turner striketh me down....
"Bill Turner" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:28:14 -0500, wrote: Hamguy, Noonair and Bill Turner also post.... and post.... and post... and post some more.... ____________________ At least our posts have some useful content and some thought put into them, unlike yours which contributes nothing at all. -- Bill W6WRT |
GASP! Lord Turner striketh me down....
"Bill Turner" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:28:14 -0500, wrote: Hamguy, Noonair and Bill Turner also post.... and post.... and post... and post some more.... ____________________ At least our posts have some useful content and some thought put into them, unlike yours which contributes nothing at all. -- Bill W6WRT |
When ham radio gets easier, as evidenced by the attitude of the no-code
technician posts, it will become more caotic. Soon every car audio dealer will have all band all mode stuff out of china on the air in every car, just like they are trying to do to the GMRS radio service with the advent of the GMRS/FRS combo talkies, and all you hear on them is garbage from folks that dont know how to be respectful. And why? Because they didnt earn the PRIVILAGE (not "the right") to be on the air and therefore treat it cheaply. Brian O. "AF Four Kilo" wrote in message ... Hehe - I think he doesn't get your point at all, Mike! He he! On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:26:01 GMT, Mike Coslo wrote: Bill Turner wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:41:49 GMT, Mike Coslo wrote: We could get a lot more Hams if we dropped the writtens too! - Mike KB3EIA - __________________________________________________ _______ If you want a lot more hams, that would do it. Would that be a good idea? Heck no! My point in all this is that right now, those who want to make amateur radio reeeaaal easy are winning the game! - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Brian Oakley" wrote in message ... When ham radio gets easier, as evidenced by the attitude of the no-code technician posts, it will become more caotic. Soon every car audio dealer will have all band all mode stuff out of china on the air in every car, just like they are trying to do to the GMRS radio service with the advent of the GMRS/FRS combo talkies, and all you hear on them is garbage from folks that dont know how to be respectful. And why? Because they didnt earn the PRIVILAGE (not "the right") to be on the air and therefore treat it cheaply. Amen |
caotic???
privilage??? attitude is all yours om "Brian Oakley" wrote in message ... When ham radio gets easier, as evidenced by the attitude of the no-code technician posts, it will become more caotic. Soon every car audio dealer will have all band all mode stuff out of china on the air in every car, just like they are trying to do to the GMRS radio service with the advent of the GMRS/FRS combo talkies, and all you hear on them is garbage from folks that dont know how to be respectful. And why? Because they didnt earn the PRIVILAGE (not "the right") to be on the air and therefore treat it cheaply. Brian O. "AF Four Kilo" wrote in message ... Hehe - I think he doesn't get your point at all, Mike! He he! On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:26:01 GMT, Mike Coslo wrote: Bill Turner wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:41:49 GMT, Mike Coslo wrote: We could get a lot more Hams if we dropped the writtens too! - Mike KB3EIA - __________________________________________________ _______ If you want a lot more hams, that would do it. Would that be a good idea? Heck no! My point in all this is that right now, those who want to make amateur radio reeeaaal easy are winning the game! - Mike KB3EIA - |
Awomen
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Brian Oakley" wrote in message ... When ham radio gets easier, as evidenced by the attitude of the no-code technician posts, it will become more caotic. Soon every car audio dealer will have all band all mode stuff out of china on the air in every car, just like they are trying to do to the GMRS radio service with the advent of the GMRS/FRS combo talkies, and all you hear on them is garbage from folks that dont know how to be respectful. And why? Because they didnt earn the PRIVILAGE (not "the right") to be on the air and therefore treat it cheaply. Amen |
"ergo" wrote in message news:qNLFb.429679$Dw6.1318415@attbi_s02... caotic??? privilage??? attitude is all yours om Operating an amateur radio station is a privelege, just as is driving an automobile, and could be revoked at any time (ask any of the dozens of hams every year that have their licenses revoked for various infractions). |
well i have my station
and i will not use code it is just a mode [a poem?] most hams cant spell "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "ergo" wrote in message news:qNLFb.429679$Dw6.1318415@attbi_s02... caotic??? privilage??? attitude is all yours om Operating an amateur radio station is a privelege, just as is driving an automobile, and could be revoked at any time (ask any of the dozens of hams every year that have their licenses revoked for various infractions). |
"ergo" wrote in message news:v4MFb.626030$Tr4.1620863@attbi_s03... well i have my station and i will not use code it is just a mode [a poem?] most hams cant spell Shoot, most people can't spell anymore. Really gets me that they use computers, and don't bother with spell checkers.. :) |
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "ergo" wrote in message news:v4MFb.626030$Tr4.1620863@attbi_s03... well i have my station and i will not use code it is just a mode [a poem?] most hams cant spell Shoot, most people can't spell anymore. Really gets me that they use computers, and don't bother with spell checkers.. :) |
my longwire went up today
antenna tuner in line 706's ready to go where is fcc announcement? june i am told "ergo" wrote in message news:HqMFb.429945$Dw6.1319274@attbi_s02... "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "ergo" wrote in message news:v4MFb.626030$Tr4.1620863@attbi_s03... well i have my station and i will not use code it is just a mode [a poem?] most hams cant spell Shoot, most people can't spell anymore. Really gets me that they use computers, and don't bother with spell checkers.. :) |
"ergo" wrote in message news:xsMFb.626208$Tr4.1621844@attbi_s03... my longwire went up today antenna tuner in line 706's ready to go where is fcc announcement? june i am told Wish I had kept my 706... maybe I'll have to find another one. Great radio for portable use. I have a nice solid aluminum case meant for an old Betamovie camcorder, could mount the radio and battery inside it, with a PL-259 mounted on the back. :) |
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message news:mGOFb.785724$pl3.495502@pd7tw3no... Hmmm, HL2? I was HM1AY, wa...y back in the 60's. B4 the days of HL prefix. They don't reissue old call. Mine is retired unless I go back and reclaim it. K7BAD? K7GUD would'vew been better. No? 73, Tony, VE6CGX Ahhh.. but that wouldn't have been my inits.. :) |
ergo wrote:
my longwire went up today antenna tuner in line 706's ready to go where is fcc announcement? june i am told Your haiku sucks ass. WA7AA -- Anti-spam measu look me up on qrz.com if you need to reply directly |
"Zoran Brlecic" wrote in message ... ergo wrote: my longwire went up today antenna tuner in line 706's ready to go where is fcc announcement? june i am told Your haiku sucks ass. WA7AA ROFL!! |
get up of that dirty floor,bren
[why does he like his @$$ sucked??] "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Zoran Brlecic" wrote in message ... ergo wrote: my longwire went up today antenna tuner in line 706's ready to go where is fcc announcement? june i am told Your haiku sucks ass. WA7AA ROFL!! |
You said it all...
BYE BYE CW, and good riddance |
Fascinating,
I invite everyone to look back and read all the postings in this thread (and variations of it) and look at the level of intellect, courtesy, and technical competence displayed by each side. Now examine which group ('pro-CW and/or elevated standards' vs. 'anti-cw / free-for-all') launched personal attacks, engaged in name calling, ridicule, etc. Also look at which side views spectrum use as a 'right' vs as a 'privilege' (even though the law clearly defines it as a privilege - clearly some don't like to see it that way.) If one had to trust the keys to the kingdom to one of the groups to keep things in order, it's painfully obvious which side keeps a cleaner house. Draw your own conclusions, but with respect to others, let's get this group back to rec.radio.SWAP and not rec.radio.code.or.no.code please. I invite those truly concerned to write (not email) their appropriate government representative, the FCC, and the ARRL to voice their concerns. Dragging it repetitiously through here is not going to solve anything. Rick .... -.- |
u dont get it.
we are having fun here only the serious are upset "Rick" wrote in message ... Fascinating, I invite everyone to look back and read all the postings in this thread (and variations of it) and look at the level of intellect, courtesy, and technical competence displayed by each side. Now examine which group ('pro-CW and/or elevated standards' vs. 'anti-cw / free-for-all') launched personal attacks, engaged in name calling, ridicule, etc. Also look at which side views spectrum use as a 'right' vs as a 'privilege' (even though the law clearly defines it as a privilege - clearly some don't like to see it that way.) If one had to trust the keys to the kingdom to one of the groups to keep things in order, it's painfully obvious which side keeps a cleaner house. Draw your own conclusions, but with respect to others, let's get this group back to rec.radio.SWAP and not rec.radio.code.or.no.code please. I invite those truly concerned to write (not email) their appropriate government representative, the FCC, and the ARRL to voice their concerns. Dragging it repetitiously through here is not going to solve anything. Rick ... -.- |
Draw your own conclusions, but with respect to others, let's get this group
back to rec.radio.SWAP and not rec.radio.code.or.no.code please. Amazing, if your scaning Messages and it says BYE BYE CW, and your not inyerested in the subject, WHY DO YOU OPEN IT AND READ IT? |
Brian Oakley wrote:
When ham radio gets easier, as evidenced by the attitude of the no-code technician posts, it will become more caotic. Soon every car audio dealer will have all band all mode stuff out of china on the air in every car, just like they are trying to do to the GMRS radio service with the advent of the GMRS/FRS combo talkies, and all you hear on them is garbage from folks that dont know how to be respectful. And why? Because they didnt earn the PRIVILAGE (not "the right") to be on the air and therefore treat it cheaply. How will learning cw teach me to be respectful? Some of the hams I listen to lately sound like uneducated morons. It seems to me that nocoders will greatly improve the spelling of current ham crop! -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:08:22 GMT, "Brian Denley"
wrote: How will learning cw teach me to be respectful? You will never know unless you try! |
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:26:17 GMT, "ergo" wrote:
with you extras huh i have 4 more states on 6 needed ctrl opp on 10 repeaters acs antennas and coax donated to fire station good ham 12 years stuff it Somebody hand him a big medal please. Oh... and polish his halo while you are at it! LOL... |
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:50:50 GMT, "ergo" wrote:
So Soon we will have our HF freqs. Then this will be meaningless. Like all of your conversations, eh! |
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:31:55 -0800, "ff-paramedic"
wrote: Being that I have been a ham for over 25 years, passed the code at age 11 and passed all the exams to become an Extra class, I guess I am afforded the opportunity to be "elitist". If a few more people wanted to earn their tickets instead of having them handed to them, maybe we'd see more appropriate behavior on the bands, and more people would be opposed to the "hand them a ticket" attitude. Right on! |
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:43:16 GMT, "ergo" wrote:
i can not use my call as olde fartz wont talk to me when i get to be general Oh you mean that "HF" callsign you used to use on 27.8 MHz - no wonder! |
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:12:31 -0500, Rick wrote:
If one had to trust the keys to the kingdom to one of the groups to keep things in order, it's painfully obvious which side keeps a cleaner house. Yes, and the other side doesn't know how to use a KEY anyway! LOL! |
I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it.
You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. |
Bye Bye CW
Well believe it or not there are still plenty of Amish folks around here
with their horses. They don't care what anyone else thinks. They just do what they do. And yes, 80m phone is a pain in the ass. "hamradiostuffing" wrote in message . .. I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it. You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. -- hamradiostuffing |
Bye Bye CW
I think not ! Lovers of Morse are the musicians of WIRELESS
Always will be - CW LIVES from CW Zealot ! "hamradiostuffing" wrote in message . .. I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it. You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. -- hamradiostuffing |
Bye Bye CW
Well during the ARRL Field Day, 2005, there were over 500,000 CW contacts
made from 2212 entrants Thats just one weekend bucko. See QST December 2005 -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "hamradiostuffing" wrote in message . .. I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it. You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. -- hamradiostuffing |
Bye Bye CW
Its those other 363 1/4 days in a year you have to justify now....
FWIW, the FCC, ITU, IARU, WARC and a few other Alphabet-Soup organizations don't share the zeal that you and the ARRL do concerning CW. Maybe that should serve as a small hint. As it stands now, even the most casual disinterested observer has come to the conclusion that CW as a requirement is detrimental to the Amateur Radio Service's survival. I personally like the appeal of Nostalgia. I have some old tube items, collect old glass bottles, some coins, etc. However - I haven't tried to make that a requirement for the continuation of life for anyone around me. Your mileage may vary. I have friends who, on occaision, have to re-shoe their horses. However, they don't petition the State Police to make Shoing a Horse a requirement for getting a Driver's License. For those who seem to be a little shy on observational capabilities, digital is most likely here to stay. ISDN specs ushered in during the late 1980s and early 1990s should have been a dead give-away to this trend; and that was nearly 2 decades ago. The lack of acknowledgement of the ARRL to the changing times has already taken a large toll. I hope the coming restructuring, in regards to dropping CW, isn't too little too late. For those diehards that want to punish every one with CW as a requirement, the younger Hams have formed an organization of their own; "Pallbearers 'R Us", and they will most likely get the last word in the matter. Pound Away, David KD4NUE "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:ZN0gf.8371$qw.6219@fed1read07... Well during the ARRL Field Day, 2005, there were over 500,000 CW contacts made from 2212 entrants Thats just one weekend bucko. See QST December 2005 -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "hamradiostuffing" wrote in message . .. I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it. You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. -- hamradiostuffing |
Bye Bye CW
Well at URL:
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/contestcal.html Find at least 40 more CW Contests ONLY Not counting the ones that are both CW and SSB Just listen to the bands -- ANYTIME -- loaded with CW signals -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! wrote in message ... Its those other 363 1/4 days in a year you have to justify now.... FWIW, the FCC, ITU, IARU, WARC and a few other Alphabet-Soup organizations don't share the zeal that you and the ARRL do concerning CW. Maybe that should serve as a small hint. As it stands now, even the most casual disinterested observer has come to the conclusion that CW as a requirement is detrimental to the Amateur Radio Service's survival. I personally like the appeal of Nostalgia. I have some old tube items, collect old glass bottles, some coins, etc. However - I haven't tried to make that a requirement for the continuation of life for anyone around me. Your mileage may vary. I have friends who, on occaision, have to re-shoe their horses. However, they don't petition the State Police to make Shoing a Horse a requirement for getting a Driver's License. For those who seem to be a little shy on observational capabilities, digital is most likely here to stay. ISDN specs ushered in during the late 1980s and early 1990s should have been a dead give-away to this trend; and that was nearly 2 decades ago. The lack of acknowledgement of the ARRL to the changing times has already taken a large toll. I hope the coming restructuring, in regards to dropping CW, isn't too little too late. For those diehards that want to punish every one with CW as a requirement, the younger Hams have formed an organization of their own; "Pallbearers 'R Us", and they will most likely get the last word in the matter. Pound Away, David KD4NUE "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:ZN0gf.8371$qw.6219@fed1read07... Well during the ARRL Field Day, 2005, there were over 500,000 CW contacts made from 2212 entrants Thats just one weekend bucko. See QST December 2005 -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "hamradiostuffing" wrote in message . .. I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it. You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. -- hamradiostuffing |
Bye Bye CW
I know.
I live close to Jekyll Island. They seem to be one of the largest old car show sites in the South East. I see lots of old cars being trailered (some even driven) to shows there nearly every month. It doesn't inspire me to go out and get one to depend on to transport myself or family. But, they do exist, and the shows to display them - Just like CW and contests. The interstate is loaded with older model cars also. However, I chose to drive something that is more dependable. Many prospective Hams with highly technical minds have never given any consideration to the Amateur Radio Service due to it's nearly hysterical zeal for using CW as a "Filter". In the meantime, they use their knowledge to design the future. It is a shame we couldn't get their attention with antiquated thinking guiding the requirements for joining our ranks. And so the continuing tribulations of the relay-minded in a digital world. I hope you are still sending binary oscillations from a momentary contact push-button switch - at least using a solid state rig. I hope that you at least acknowledge that there is hope for solid state electronics over hollow state; even though tube gear still exists..... What you choose to drive or do with you radio gear is a matter of personal choice. After the first quarter of 2006, many Hams choices of operation below 50 MHz will increase; no code involved. I hope it isn't a matter of too little, too late to preserve the spectrum entrusted to us. Get over it. David KD4NUE "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:oo3gf.8395$qw.5592@fed1read07... Well at URL: http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/contestcal.html Find at least 40 more CW Contests ONLY Not counting the ones that are both CW and SSB Just listen to the bands -- ANYTIME -- loaded with CW signals -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! wrote in message ... Its those other 363 1/4 days in a year you have to justify now.... FWIW, the FCC, ITU, IARU, WARC and a few other Alphabet-Soup organizations don't share the zeal that you and the ARRL do concerning CW. Maybe that should serve as a small hint. As it stands now, even the most casual disinterested observer has come to the conclusion that CW as a requirement is detrimental to the Amateur Radio Service's survival. I personally like the appeal of Nostalgia. I have some old tube items, collect old glass bottles, some coins, etc. However - I haven't tried to make that a requirement for the continuation of life for anyone around me. Your mileage may vary. I have friends who, on occaision, have to re-shoe their horses. However, they don't petition the State Police to make Shoing a Horse a requirement for getting a Driver's License. For those who seem to be a little shy on observational capabilities, digital is most likely here to stay. ISDN specs ushered in during the late 1980s and early 1990s should have been a dead give-away to this trend; and that was nearly 2 decades ago. The lack of acknowledgement of the ARRL to the changing times has already taken a large toll. I hope the coming restructuring, in regards to dropping CW, isn't too little too late. For those diehards that want to punish every one with CW as a requirement, the younger Hams have formed an organization of their own; "Pallbearers 'R Us", and they will most likely get the last word in the matter. Pound Away, David KD4NUE "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:ZN0gf.8371$qw.6219@fed1read07... Well during the ARRL Field Day, 2005, there were over 500,000 CW contacts made from 2212 entrants Thats just one weekend bucko. See QST December 2005 -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "hamradiostuffing" wrote in message . .. I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it. You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. -- hamradiostuffing |
Bye Bye CW
First off currently THE CODE TEST IS A REQUIREMENT -- PERIOD
And if you want something bad enough, you buckle down and DO IT, whether you like, dislike, will use, or NEVER use the code. All the arguments against the code are beside the point. It is NOT the code that stops folks. It is the time, dedication, and good old Yankee can do. For example, I have tutored folks on the mores code. The average person needs about 30 hours of study and practice on the code to hit 5 wpm. More than 90% of those that stuck to it -- passed the code test. The other 10% required more time and most made it. Soon the code will go away as a requirement But then we will undoubtedly hear -- Aw gee I have to take a test on regulations, electronics, ad nausea It is the motivated can doers in this world that get ahead and succeed. The rest endlessly complain, make excuses and get no where. In Navy Aviation Electronics school, we had to pass the code test at 8 WPM in order to continue on in the school. Many hated it, complained, I'll never use it, etc. Until our old Chief instructor sed to us -- you will learn the code or you will find yourself in the boiler room of an Oil Tanker. You know what -- we ALL passed -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! wrote in message ... I know. I live close to Jekyll Island. They seem to be one of the largest old car show sites in the South East. I see lots of old cars being trailered (some even driven) to shows there nearly every month. It doesn't inspire me to go out and get one to depend on to transport myself or family. But, they do exist, and the shows to display them - Just like CW and contests. The interstate is loaded with older model cars also. However, I chose to drive something that is more dependable. Many prospective Hams with highly technical minds have never given any consideration to the Amateur Radio Service due to it's nearly hysterical zeal for using CW as a "Filter". In the meantime, they use their knowledge to design the future. It is a shame we couldn't get their attention with antiquated thinking guiding the requirements for joining our ranks. And so the continuing tribulations of the relay-minded in a digital world. I hope you are still sending binary oscillations from a momentary contact push-button switch - at least using a solid state rig. I hope that you at least acknowledge that there is hope for solid state electronics over hollow state; even though tube gear still exists..... What you choose to drive or do with you radio gear is a matter of personal choice. After the first quarter of 2006, many Hams choices of operation below 50 MHz will increase; no code involved. I hope it isn't a matter of too little, too late to preserve the spectrum entrusted to us. Get over it. David KD4NUE "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:oo3gf.8395$qw.5592@fed1read07... Well at URL: http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/contestcal.html Find at least 40 more CW Contests ONLY Not counting the ones that are both CW and SSB Just listen to the bands -- ANYTIME -- loaded with CW signals -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! wrote in message ... Its those other 363 1/4 days in a year you have to justify now.... FWIW, the FCC, ITU, IARU, WARC and a few other Alphabet-Soup organizations don't share the zeal that you and the ARRL do concerning CW. Maybe that should serve as a small hint. As it stands now, even the most casual disinterested observer has come to the conclusion that CW as a requirement is detrimental to the Amateur Radio Service's survival. I personally like the appeal of Nostalgia. I have some old tube items, collect old glass bottles, some coins, etc. However - I haven't tried to make that a requirement for the continuation of life for anyone around me. Your mileage may vary. I have friends who, on occaision, have to re-shoe their horses. However, they don't petition the State Police to make Shoing a Horse a requirement for getting a Driver's License. For those who seem to be a little shy on observational capabilities, digital is most likely here to stay. ISDN specs ushered in during the late 1980s and early 1990s should have been a dead give-away to this trend; and that was nearly 2 decades ago. The lack of acknowledgement of the ARRL to the changing times has already taken a large toll. I hope the coming restructuring, in regards to dropping CW, isn't too little too late. For those diehards that want to punish every one with CW as a requirement, the younger Hams have formed an organization of their own; "Pallbearers 'R Us", and they will most likely get the last word in the matter. Pound Away, David KD4NUE "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:ZN0gf.8371$qw.6219@fed1read07... Well during the ARRL Field Day, 2005, there were over 500,000 CW contacts made from 2212 entrants Thats just one weekend bucko. See QST December 2005 -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "hamradiostuffing" wrote in message . .. I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it. You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is. Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example. -- hamradiostuffing |
Bye Bye CW
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:BC5gf.9878$qw.9424@fed1read07... First off currently THE CODE TEST IS A REQUIREMENT -- PERIOD And if you want something bad enough, you buckle down and DO IT, whether you like, dislike, will use, or NEVER use the code. All the arguments against the code are beside the point. It is NOT the code that stops folks. It is the time, dedication, and good old Yankee can do. For example, I have tutored folks on the mores code. The average person needs about 30 hours of study and practice on the code to hit 5 wpm. More than 90% of those that stuck to it -- passed the code test. The other 10% required more time and most made it. Soon the code will go away as a requirement But then we will undoubtedly hear -- Aw gee I have to take a test on regulations, electronics, ad nausea It is the motivated can doers in this world that get ahead and succeed. The rest endlessly complain, make excuses and get no where. In Navy Aviation Electronics school, we had to pass the code test at 8 WPM in order to continue on in the school. Many hated it, complained, I'll never use it, etc. Until our old Chief instructor sed to us -- you will learn the code or you will find yourself in the boiler room of an Oil Tanker. You know what -- we ALL passed -- APPLAUSE Hell, if a no-talent hack like me can learn it, anyone can. I made it fun for myself by designing a code tutor program on my old Vic 20 computer. Coded tones to ASCII, so that as I hit a key it would give me the proper Morse equivalent. |
Bye Bye CW
Caveat Lector wrote: First off currently THE CODE TEST IS A REQUIREMENT -- PERIOD And if you want something bad enough, you buckle down and DO IT, whether you like, dislike, will use, or NEVER use the code. All the arguments against the code are beside the point. It is NOT the code that stops folks. It is the time, dedication, and good old Yankee can do. For example, I have tutored folks on the mores code. The average person needs about 30 hours of study and practice on the code to hit 5 wpm. More than 90% of those that stuck to it -- passed the code test. The other 10% required more time and most made it. Soon the code will go away as a requirement But then we will undoubtedly hear -- Aw gee I have to take a test on regulations, electronics, ad nausea It is the motivated can doers in this world that get ahead and succeed. The rest endlessly complain, make excuses and get no where. In Navy Aviation Electronics school, we had to pass the code test at 8 WPM in order to continue on in the school. Many hated it, complained, I'll never use it, etc. Until our old Chief instructor sed to us -- you will learn the code or you will find yourself in the boiler room of an Oil Tanker. You know what -- we ALL passed Very good! dxAce Michigan USA |
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