wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote:

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I guess no one cares that Stefan come on here bitchin and moaning and
crying about the "dumbing down" of USA amateur radio, and he has no
apparent license.

How easily everyone gets fooled by these trolls.

SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
......
......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however,

There has never been any "Morse Requirement." No particular mode is
mandated.

That's right. And there's no requirement to get on the air once you do
have a license.

could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine

I suspect that Nancy is actually that grouchy Sterba, Kurt N.

I dunno. Kurt might be anybody.

and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan.

I thought the CDC was in Atlanta and World Radio was in 6-land?

You're right.

"We live in a society today that wants something for nothing."

The written exams are "nothing?"

That's exactly right. That's why it was so important to keep the Morse
Code exam, because the written exams are nothing.

A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000 licensed
ham operators in the United States

Another "first."

Well, I dunno.

and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the International
Morse Preservation Society.

That would make it "IMPS." I thought it called itself "FISTS."

I guess no one wants to be called an "Imps."

... So true, Ms. Kott...

I'm not so easily convinced, Stefan.

Maybe Stefan has some other words of wisdom?

From: on Thurs, Dec 28 2006 6:04 pm

wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote:

QRZ Search Results: There are 0 records matching +Stefan* +Wolfe*

I guess no one cares that Stefan come on here bitchin and moaning and
crying about the "dumbing down" of USA amateur radio, and he has no
apparent license.

How easily everyone gets fooled by these trolls.

Maybe he got his given name spelled wrong? Like "Steppin Wolfe?"
:-)

SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
......
......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however,

There has never been any "Morse Requirement." No particular mode is
mandated.

That's right. And there's no requirement to get on the air once you do
have a license.

Horrors! Isn't Ham Radio ALL about "working DX on HF with CW?"

Why...why...why one HAS to "get on the air" and "work" someone
by morsemanship! "Rite of passage" or some other BS myth...

One just "cannot" be a "ham" without "working someone with CW!"

:-)

could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine

I suspect that Nancy is actually that grouchy Sterba, Kurt N.

I dunno. Kurt might be anybody.

Kurt Weil? Sterba, Kurtain? :-)

[author-composer of musical "Cabaret" and a famous old wire
antenna of large dimensions once used by the pros...]


and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan.

I thought the CDC was in Atlanta and World Radio was in 6-land?

You're right.

Gosh, I thought "CDC" stood for Control Data Corporation...

"We live in a society today that wants something for nothing."

The written exams are "nothing?"

That's exactly right. That's why it was so important to keep the Morse
Code exam, because the written exams are nothing.

Riiiiight...the ultimate, the ne plus ultra of "radio
operating" is sending-receiving morse code. :-)

Like ANY other radio service ever uses it nowadays for
communications...guffaw

A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000 licensed
ham operators in the United States

Another "first."

Well, I dunno.

Nancy Kott is caught up in a "Nancy Kause" of Doing Something
To Preserve The Glory and Honor of Morsemanship."

That "Kause" is doomed...


and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the International
Morse Preservation Society.

That would make it "IMPS." I thought it called itself "FISTS."

I guess no one wants to be called an "Imps."

"FISTS" carries the emotional baggage of Virility, Strength,
Force, and is very Manly. :-)

Hmmm...that alone makes one wonder about Ms. Kott's motivation?

[now watch the response, Brian, Jimmie Noserve will be in here
with a "you're Wrong" and describe the origin of "FISTS" and
other assorted glories of morsemanship...as if He is the only
"smart" one and all no-coders are imbeciles]

... So true, Ms. Kott...

I'm not so easily convinced, Stefan.

Maybe Stefan has some other words of wisdom?

Maybe that given name is a contraction of **** that hit the fan?

One can only wonder.

Maybe this Stefan is really Mikey Deignan trying to get some new
Club Calls to replace the ones taken away from him? :-)

[the "KH6" is now a resident of Bedford, MA...no longer having a
PO box in Hawaii courtesy of Jeff Herman]

Hmmm...whatever happened to Eric June, the self-appointed
president and director of "Know Code International?" :-)

wrote:
From: on Thurs, Dec 28 2006 6:04 pm

wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote:

QRZ Search Results: There are 0 records matching +Stefan* +Wolfe*

I guess no one cares that Stefan come on here bitchin and moaning and
crying about the "dumbing down" of USA amateur radio, and he has no
apparent license.

How easily everyone gets fooled by these trolls.

Maybe he got his given name spelled wrong? Like "Steppin Wolfe?"
:-)

Very psychodelic. Don't get rug burns from the magic carpet ride.

SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
......
......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however,

There has never been any "Morse Requirement." No particular mode is
mandated.

That's right. And there's no requirement to get on the air once you do
have a license.

Horrors! Isn't Ham Radio ALL about "working DX on HF with CW?"

That's correct. Anything less than than just makes for a lesser ham.

Why...why...why one HAS to "get on the air" and "work" someone
by morsemanship! "Rite of passage" or some other BS myth...

One just "cannot" be a "ham" without "working someone with CW!"

:-)

"Hams of a Lesser God."

could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine

I suspect that Nancy is actually that grouchy Sterba, Kurt N.

I dunno. Kurt might be anybody.

Kurt Weil? Sterba, Kurtain? :-)

[author-composer of musical "Cabaret" and a famous old wire
antenna of large dimensions once used by the pros...]

A cranky (OM) who writes antenna books at World Radio.

and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan.

I thought the CDC was in Atlanta and World Radio was in 6-land?

You're right.

Gosh, I thought "CDC" stood for Control Data Corporation...

Isn't Control Data defunct?

"We live in a society today that wants something for nothing."

The written exams are "nothing?"

That's exactly right. That's why it was so important to keep the Morse
Code exam, because the written exams are nothing.

Riiiiight...the ultimate, the ne plus ultra of "radio
operating" is sending-receiving morse code. :-)

Like ANY other radio service ever uses it nowadays for
communications...guffaw

Well, well, well....

A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000 licensed
ham operators in the United States

Another "first."

Well, I dunno.

Nancy Kott is caught up in a "Nancy Kause" of Doing Something
To Preserve The Glory and Honor of Morsemanship."

A Priestess in the Church of St. Hiram?

That "Kause" is doomed...

Maybe not doomed...

and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the International
Morse Preservation Society.

That would make it "IMPS." I thought it called itself "FISTS."

I guess no one wants to be called an "Imps."

"FISTS" carries the emotional baggage of Virility, Strength,
Force, and is very Manly. :-)

Hmmmm? I guess "IMPS" is "OUT."

Hmmm...that alone makes one wonder about Ms. Kott's motivation?

[now watch the response, Brian, Jimmie Noserve will be in here
with a "you're Wrong" and describe the origin of "FISTS" and
other assorted glories of morsemanship...as if He is the only
"smart" one and all no-coders are imbeciles]

Yep. and FISTicuffS was there in WWII helping the effort.

... So true, Ms. Kott...

I'm not so easily convinced, Stefan.

Maybe Stefan has some other words of wisdom?

Maybe that given name is a contraction of **** that hit the fan?

One can only wonder.

Maybe this Stefan is really Mikey Deignan trying to get some new
Club Calls to replace the ones taken away from him? :-)

The RF Commandos are missing in action, but they still have a Club Call
to come back to if they ever have another meeting.

[the "KH6" is now a resident of Bedford, MA...no longer having a
PO box in Hawaii courtesy of Jeff Herman]

People who glom up exotic callsigns having never been to the
location...

Hmmm...whatever happened to Eric June, the self-appointed
president and director of "Know Code International?" :-)



I forgot all about him. And the other guy - Val Germann...

From: on Fri, Dec 29 2006 4:44 am

wrote:
From: on Thurs, Dec 28 2006 6:04 pm
wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote:

QRZ Search Results: There are 0 records matching +Stefan* +Wolfe*

I guess no one cares that Stefan come on here bitchin and moaning and
crying about the "dumbing down" of USA amateur radio, and he has no
apparent license.

How easily everyone gets fooled by these trolls.

Maybe he got his given name spelled wrong? Like "Steppin Wolfe?"
:-)

Very psychodelic. Don't get rug burns from the magic carpet ride.

Very psycho if you ask me... :-)


SAN FRANCISCO: It may be the ultimate SOS.

Morse Code is in distress.
......
......
While the decision had been expected, some ham radio operators fear that
their exclusive club has been opened to the unwashed masses
- and that the very survival of Morse Code is in question.
......
The demise of the Morse requirement, however,

There has never been any "Morse Requirement." No particular mode is
mandated.

That's right. And there's no requirement to get on the air once you do
have a license.

Horrors! Isn't Ham Radio ALL about "working DX on HF with CW?"

That's correct. Anything less than than just makes for a lesser ham.

Heh heh...durn near half of all US hams are "lesser" in that
case! ["lesser" in the eyes of the coded Elite...:-)]

Why...why...why one HAS to "get on the air" and "work" someone
by morsemanship! "Rite of passage" or some other BS myth...

One just "cannot" be a "ham" without "working someone with CW!"

:-)

"Hams of a Lesser God."

Obviously not of the Ruling Elite of the Acolytes of Hiram... :-)


could be a boon for ham radio
itself. After the FCC decision, demand for information
about radio licenses surged from about 200 in a typical weekend to about
500, according to the American Radio Relay League, an
organization representing ham radio operators.
......
"It's part of the dumbing down of America," said Nancy Kott, editor of World
Radio magazine

I suspect that Nancy is actually that grouchy Sterba, Kurt N.

I dunno. Kurt might be anybody.

Kurt Weil? Sterba, Kurtain? :-)

[author-composer of musical "Cabaret" and a famous old wire
antenna of large dimensions once used by the pros...]

A cranky (OM) who writes antenna books at World Radio.

Heh, heh, riiiight...he would be over 100 years then, no wonder
he would be cranky.


and a field representative for the
Centers for Disease of Control and Prevention in Metamora, Michigan.

I thought the CDC was in Atlanta and World Radio was in 6-land?

You're right.

Gosh, I thought "CDC" stood for Control Data Corporation...

Isn't Control Data defunct?

Only the Logo. With the corporations purchasing other corporations
in the electronics industry (as a whole), it has been difficult
keeping up with the new names in three decades. [it's been worse
in the microwave portion of the industry...]

However, hams who get their ONLY 'radio news' from ARRL wouldn't
know about such things. shrug


"We live in a society today that wants something for nothing."

The written exams are "nothing?"

That's exactly right. That's why it was so important to keep the Morse
Code exam, because the written exams are nothing.

Riiiiight...the ultimate, the ne plus ultra of "radio
operating" is sending-receiving morse code. :-)

Like ANY other radio service ever uses it nowadays for
communications...guffaw

Well, well, well....

Among the stodgy old morsemen, the mythos of morse is still
alive.


A female in a mostly male radio world, Kott is one of about 660,000 licensed
ham operators in the United States

Another "first."

Well, I dunno.

Nancy Kott is caught up in a "Nancy Kause" of Doing Something
To Preserve The Glory and Honor of Morsemanship."

A Priestess in the Church of St. Hiram?

A Sister, a Nun of the Above...[of the Code Cloister]

That "Kause" is doomed...

Maybe not doomed...

Maybe she's a Sara Jane Moore wannabe? A Lynette Frome wanabe?

[attempted assassins of Gerald Ford...]


and is the U.S.
leader of Fists CW Club, an organization that calls itself the International
Morse Preservation Society.

That would make it "IMPS." I thought it called itself "FISTS."

I guess no one wants to be called an "Imps."

"FISTS" carries the emotional baggage of Virility, Strength,
Force, and is very Manly. :-)

Hmmmm? I guess "IMPS" is "OUT."

Absolutely. In US ham radio all must be white male HETEROsexuals
who love honor and obey morse code.


Hmmm...that alone makes one wonder about Ms. Kott's motivation?

[now watch the response, Brian, Jimmie Noserve will be in here
with a "you're Wrong" and describe the origin of "FISTS" and
other assorted glories of morsemanship...as if He is the only
"smart" one and all no-coders are imbeciles]

Yep. and FISTicuffS was there in WWII helping the effort.

Riiiight...except that IN WWII the bulk of military messaging
was done by TTY, not by manual morse code.

Jimmie Noserve no wanna say that but it was true...but then
Jimmie never ever did serve in any US military of any kind,
not even in the government.


... So true, Ms. Kott...

I'm not so easily convinced, Stefan.

Maybe Stefan has some other words of wisdom?

Maybe that given name is a contraction of **** that hit the fan?

One can only wonder.

Maybe this Stefan is really Mikey Deignan trying to get some new
Club Calls to replace the ones taken away from him? :-)

The RF Commandos are missing in action, but they still have a Club Call
to come back to if they ever have another meeting.

Hot damn! "RF Commandos!" Force, strength, virility coming
out of every pore, J-38s at high port, conquering pileups at
every cue-so!


[the "KH6" is now a resident of Bedford, MA...no longer having a
PO box in Hawaii courtesy of Jeff Herman]

People who glom up exotic callsigns having never been to the
location...

"Book 'em, Danno!" :-)

Hmmm...whatever happened to Eric June, the self-appointed
president and director of "Know Code International?" :-)



I forgot all about him. And the other guy - Val Germann...

Google never forgets. Last night I did a quick copy of the
All-Time Posters on RRAP and here is what they had for 28
Dec 06:

K4YZ 11,945 [warrior of Seven Hostile Actions]
Cecil Moore 11,892
James Miccolis 8,836
Dick Carroll 7,091 [SK]
-me- 6,191
Eric June 5,434
David Heil 5,358
Ed Hare 5,253
Mark Morgan 4,633
James Rosenthal 4,286

Grand total of just the Top Ten: 73,919 posts!

Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna. June,
Hare, and Rosenthal haven't been here for at least two years.
Major Dud finally grabbed more archive space than Cecil (which
was expected) even though he mainly talks about HIMSELF and his
mighty "military" service while personally insulting everyone
who dares disagree with him. :-)

73,

wrote:

Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna. June,
Hare, and Rosenthal haven't been here for at least two years.
Major Dud finally grabbed more archive space than Cecil (which
was expected) even though he mainly talks about HIMSELF and his
mighty "military" service while personally insulting everyone
who dares disagree with him. :-)

73,



Sometimes I feel as though I should apologize for all hams, then I think
of Cecil and realize there may be others I don't have to be ashamed for
.... thanks for reminding me.

JS

wrote:
Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna.

Actually, I was on both rrap and rraa. My
attitude has always been of a Libertarian
flavor - freedom of choice of modes in a
free market of modes.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna.

Actually, I was on both rrap and rraa. My
attitude has always been of a Libertarian
flavor - freedom of choice of modes in a
free market of modes.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Soon, Cecil, soon.

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
Cecil has been in the newsgroup perhaps the longest, finally got
tired of it and went over to rec.radio.amateur.antenna.

Actually, I was on both rrap and rraa. My
attitude has always been of a Libertarian
flavor - freedom of choice of modes in a
free market of modes.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Roger that, Cecil. :-) Way to go...FREEDOM of choice and not
coerced, brainwashed, or anything else by some old men in
Newington. :-)

Nice Hog you got...! :-)

73,

wrote in message

Roger that, Cecil. :-) Way to go...FREEDOM of choice and not
coerced, brainwashed, or anything else by some old men in
Newington. :-)

Len, you used to argue that ham radio would benefit if only the FCC would
let the brilliant RF scientists, engineers and physicists, who only lacked
the ability or desire to learn Morse code, to enter the service. You also
used to argue that the code was a roadblock to younger people entering the
hobby. On the surface, these seemed to be some pretty noble ideals upon
which to take the high road. This is all on the record.

But now it becomes clear that, with the Morse requirement indeed no longer a
low tech obstacle to these high potential contributors, the promises of
these positive outcomes have been pretty much toned down...by about 100%.
Maybe they will happen but probably (I'm sure you agree) things will pretty
much stay the same, other than the rise of another marginal increase in the
lid factor similar towhat we saw on 75m with the advent of the 5wpm
generals.

Now you say it was all only for freedom of choice.

When did your flip turn into a flop? :-))

wrote:

(snip of wordy rant)

Google never forgets.

Remember that...

Last night I did a quick copy of the
All-Time Posters on RRAP and here is what they had for 28
Dec 06:

-me- 6,191

No, Len, that number is way too low.

According to Google, your postings to rrap since 1997 are no less than:

846 as
1230 as
10 as
39 as
1204 as
6210 as
1454 as

That's a grand total of no less than 10,993 postings to rrap, under no
less than seven different screen names, all by you. There may be more -
10,993 is a minimum number.

Google never forgets.

If your ability to count *your own postings* results in a number that
is so inaccurate, why should anyone trust your counts of other things?

If your ability to represent your own history of posting to rrap is so
error-filled, why should anyone trust your recounting of other history?