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Old January 23rd 07, 06:02 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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"Denny" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, there is the Moxon Rectangle, Discone, Sloper, Delta Loop, Big
Wheel, Circular Loop, Orthogonal loops with periodic feed, Vee,
Rhombic, Helix, Parabolic Dish, Cone with spiral lip, G String, Surface
fed half sphere, BirdCage, Lazy Vee, Moon Bounce, and a bunch of others
that escape me at the moment...



You left out the King of them all:
http://members.aol.com/ve3bmv/Razors.htm
Da VE3BMV Razor Beam, which may have escaped the Art da Antenna Wiz.
Let's not forget this 3D champion that decimated Yagis and other inferior
contraptions by the antenna gurus and professoirs and scientwists. :-)))

73 Yuri da BUm da father of Razors


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Yuri, I didn't remember that.. Thanks for the memory jog...
And the blurb on the cover about local rtty loops brings back lots of
good memories.. Every time I get a fresh whiff of WD-40 I hear a model
19 rattling in my head for a split second... Autostart thunder from
the basement at 2AM the xyl hated that after the guys got home from
work at the auto plant and started trading the latest rtty pictures....
Remember the topless girl in the indian head dress / the american flag
done with a red and black ribbon / lots others?

denny

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yuri I put my money where my mouth is, it cost me a lot to apply
for another patent. Ask yourself the question why do you
experiment and why are you at at odds so many times with the experts?
I'll tell you why because you are pursueing the truth that may well
oppose the books so why hit me when I do the same?
art

Yuri Blanarovich wrote:
"Denny" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, there is the Moxon Rectangle, Discone, Sloper, Delta Loop, Big
Wheel, Circular Loop, Orthogonal loops with periodic feed, Vee,
Rhombic, Helix, Parabolic Dish, Cone with spiral lip, G String, Surface
fed half sphere, BirdCage, Lazy Vee, Moon Bounce, and a bunch of others
that escape me at the moment...



You left out the King of them all:
http://members.aol.com/ve3bmv/Razors.htm
Da VE3BMV Razor Beam, which may have escaped the Art da Antenna Wiz.
Let's not forget this 3D champion that decimated Yagis and other inferior
contraptions by the antenna gurus and professoirs and scientwists. :-)))

73 Yuri da BUm da father of Razors


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yuri I put my money where my mouth is, it cost me a lot to apply
for another patent. Ask yourself the question why do you
experiment and why are you at at odds so many times with the experts?
I'll tell you why because you are pursueing the truth that may well
oppose the books so why hit me when I do the same?
art

Yuri Blanarovich wrote:
"Denny" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, there is the Moxon Rectangle, Discone, Sloper, Delta Loop, Big
Wheel, Circular Loop, Orthogonal loops with periodic feed, Vee,
Rhombic, Helix, Parabolic Dish, Cone with spiral lip, G String, Surface
fed half sphere, BirdCage, Lazy Vee, Moon Bounce, and a bunch of others
that escape me at the moment...



You left out the King of them all:
http://members.aol.com/ve3bmv/Razors.htm
Da VE3BMV Razor Beam, which may have escaped the Art da Antenna Wiz.
Let's not forget this 3D champion that decimated Yagis and other inferior
contraptions by the antenna gurus and professoirs and scientwists. :-)))

73 Yuri da BUm da father of Razors


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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:25:56 -0800, art wrote:

yuri I put my money where my mouth is, it cost me a lot to apply
for another patent.


Getting a patent merely proves that one is able to hire a competent
enough patent attorney to convince the patent examiners that the
application in question isn't the rehash of prior patents. Enough bogus
software patents are issued on an ongoing bases to bear this out. A
patent is not proof of sound engineering even though the public at large
has been hoodwinked into believing otherwise.

Without field strength/antenna range data, any other claims are akin to
shouting in the wind. Your money doesn't matter, show us the data.

- Nate

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the pessimist fears this is true."


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Nate I know what patents are all about. In this country alone
I have been involved with three patents for G.E where naturally
an attorney is hired. For patents outside the workplace I do
my own without hiring an attorney. As far as providing the
data up front why should I do that, as a former teacher I found
that when someone does homework memory alone is not enough.
it takes two people to share information and I am doing my part.

On this newsgroup I have given plenty of data that when pursued
by personal work will provide agreement, the dissent from couch
recliners is to be expected.
I have put my money down in earnest, I am not just waving my hands.


Nate Bargmann wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:25:56 -0800, art wrote:

yuri I put my money where my mouth is, it cost me a lot to apply
for another patent.


Getting a patent merely proves that one is able to hire a competent
enough patent attorney to convince the patent examiners that the
application in question isn't the rehash of prior patents. Enough bogus
software patents are issued on an ongoing bases to bear this out. A
patent is not proof of sound engineering even though the public at large
has been hoodwinked into believing otherwise.

Without field strength/antenna range data, any other claims are akin to
shouting in the wind. Your money doesn't matter, show us the data.

- Nate

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"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
the pessimist fears this is true."


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On Jan 23, 1:20 pm, "art" wrote:

I have put my money down in earnest, I am not just waving my hands.


Reminds me of a Pink Floyd song... "Your lips move, but I can't hear
what yer
saying..." ooooooohhhhhh, oooohhhh, I've become comfortably numb"

MK

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On Tue, "Yuri Blanarovich" K3BU wrote:


Let's not forget this 3D champion that decimated Yagis and other inferior
contraptions by the antenna gurus and professoirs and scientwists. :-)))

73 Yuri da BUm da father of Razors


Hey Yuri,
Is it true, I've heard you can't operate a Razor over dry land, or
where there is flamable material nearby because of the fire hazard?

How about we put one up over a salt marsh, would that be safe enough
to not endanger the population?

Rick K2XT


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The reason for the original design was because in rarified locations
such as
Quito, Equador the yagi produces excessive corona at the element tips.

The quad solved the perceived problem. I say perceived because the
corona will eat away at the yagi antenna element lengths , In a
hazardous
area the quad is more suitable than any other antenna.
Art

Rick wrote:
On Tue, "Yuri Blanarovich" K3BU wrote:


Let's not forget this 3D champion that decimated Yagis and other inferior
contraptions by the antenna gurus and professoirs and scientwists. :-)))

73 Yuri da BUm da father of Razors


Hey Yuri,
Is it true, I've heard you can't operate a Razor over dry land, or
where there is flamable material nearby because of the fire hazard?

How about we put one up over a salt marsh, would that be safe enough
to not endanger the population?

Rick K2XT


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No reason for saying "percieved". It was a very real and obvious
problem.

On Jan 23, 3:56 pm, "art" wrote:
The reason for the original design was because in rarified locations
such as
Quito, Equador the yagi produces excessive corona at the element tips.

The quad solved the perceived problem. I say perceived because the
corona will eat away at the yagi antenna element lengths , In a
hazardous
area the quad is more suitable than any other antenna.
Art



Rick wrote:
On Tue, "Yuri Blanarovich" K3BU wrote:


Let's not forget this 3D champion that decimated Yagis and other inferior
contraptions by the antenna gurus and professoirs and scientwists. :-)))


73 Yuri da BUm da father of Razors


Hey Yuri,
Is it true, I've heard you can't operate a Razor over dry land, or
where there is flamable material nearby because of the fire hazard?


How about we put one up over a salt marsh, would that be safe enough
to not endanger the population?


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