On 19 Feb, 13:52, "art" wrote:
On 19 Feb, 13:27, "KC4UAI" wrote:

On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

Oh my !! We are but one little part of the Universe all of which is
in equilibrium with each other. If everything turned the same way I
suspect you would fly off your handle as equilibrium would be lost
Don't tempt fate or Harvard will take their diploma back
Art

On 19 Feb, 13:52, "art" wrote:
On 19 Feb, 13:27, "KC4UAI" wrote:

On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.

Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.

Oh my !! We are but one little part of the Universe all of which is
in equilibrium with each other. If everything turned the same way I
suspect you would fly off your handle as equilibrium would be lost
Don't tempt fate or Harvard will take their diploma back
Art

If an Aussi stepped in some deep mud and sank thru all the way
to the U.S his feet would come out first and you want him to
demonstrate the right hand rule while standing on his head !!!!
Art

KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern
hemisphere the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or,
force/contrivance can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only
be guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more
is known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

JS

John Smith I wrote:
KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

Irrelevant.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern
hemisphere the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or,
force/contrivance can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

For real, normal, manufactured sinks, toilets, and bathtubs, this is not true.

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only
be guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more
is known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

In a perfectly smooth, level, and symetrical sink filled with absolutely
still water, it will always go the same way and this is trivially explained
by the corriolis effect.

For real world sinks, the deviations from perfect smoothness, levelness, and
symmetry overpowers the corriolis effect and the water goes which ever
way dominates from the imperfections.

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

Or one could get an education in basic physics.

The physical world is within the realm of understanding for at least
50% of the population.

I guess you are in the bottom half.

http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.asp
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99107.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

wrote:
...

You missed the point, as usual. Since with what I presented, and the
way I presented it, one would have been required to have digested the
information and have a basic understanding of known physic forces.

You waste my time. You only serve to waste the time of anyone of
interest here. Are there not some children around your neighborhood you
could amuse and be amused by, and thereby free the adults to other
pursuits.

As long as you hang around sucking air for no purpose, you may as well
make yourself useful.

Come on, be a good bloke for a change ...

JS

I did. Actually, I got a masters in it. In the words of one of my more
brilliant professors, "You suck hind tit".

Jim


Or one could get an education in basic physics.

"John Smith I" wrote in message
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KC4UAI wrote:
On Feb 19, 2:08 pm, John Smith I wrote:

... similar effects are also noted in magnetic phenomenon and
objects/properties affected by magnetic properties.


Yes, but they don't change direction.. The relationship between a
traveling electric field and associated magnetic field are still
related by a vector cross product that does not change no matter where
you are on the earth's surface or in space, (Einstein and Hawking's
black hole theories aside.) This means that a beam of electrons will
be deflected exactly the same way by the same magnetic field no matter
where you are and your TV will work the same way at the north pole,
Amundsen-Scott Station and everywhere in between.



Oxygen molecules are ever slightly magnetic ... one-third of waters
composition is oxygen molecules.

When you pull the plug in your sink, in the northern hemisphere the
"whirlpool" which forms spins in one direction, in the southern hemisphere
the opposite direction (this computed on an average, or, force/contrivance
can be applied to change the direction of normal spin.)

I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this happens
or is able to offer conclusive proof ... to say more would only be
guessing. To say the previous in any other manner would suggest more is
known than actually is ... that is simply all which IS "known."

One can extrapolate upon the above and venture guesses/theories, caution
should be used when doing so.

JS

I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.

Jimmie D wrote:

...
I t doesnt happen, water swirling down the drain in different directionn
because you are in the southern or northern hemisphere is a myth.



Obviously you have a sink, you can prove it correct.

And, indeed, it is correct. Has to do with the oxygen molecules slight
magnetic force in interaction with the appropriate pole of the earth.

My goodness. Who would have guessed so many could benefit from a simple
high school physics course, and then an introduction to antennas?

JS

John Smith I wrote:
I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ...

Here's what I was taught. In the Northern Hemisphere,
the Northernmost point in a body of water at rest is
moving slower than the Southernmost point. Consider
that the ocean water at the poles travels pi*zero miles
every 24 hours while the water at the equator travels
pi*8000 miles, i.e. about 1000 miles per hour. The extra
velocity of the Southernmost molecules is what gives the
counter-clockwise rotation of a fluid in the Northern
Hemisphere. In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southernmost
molecules are moving the fastest resulting in a clockwise
rotation.
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

On Feb 22, 10:36 am, Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
I know of NO ONE who claims to know FOR CERTAIN, EXACTLY why, this
happens or is able to offer conclusive proof ...

Here's what I was taught. In the Northern Hemisphere,
the Northernmost point in a body of water at rest is
moving slower than the Southernmost point. Consider
that the ocean water at the poles travels pi*zero miles
every 24 hours while the water at the equator travels
pi*8000 miles, i.e. about 1000 miles per hour. The extra
velocity of the Southernmost molecules is what gives the
counter-clockwise rotation of a fluid in the Northern
Hemisphere. In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southernmost
molecules are moving the fastest resulting in a clockwise
rotation.
--
73, Cecil,http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Sounds about like what my HS physics teacher told me, works great for
hurricains doesnt do a thing for toilet drains .(|)