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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:05:28 GMT, Cecil Moore
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Buck wrote:
If both were the same, I think he would be better off, but it should
turn into a rotatable dipole similar to a multiband beam, but without
the directors and reflectors. I see there is no reason it shouldn't
work once he gets them tuned.


How much would it weigh?


That part hadn't occurred to me. Come to think of it, I don't think
they were designed to withstand horizontal positioning, but then I
don't know the antennas. Anyway, good luck in the antenna.

Maybe a vertical dipole?


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I've done it with pairs of identical "hamsticks" ....
two feet above the cab of my pickup. It made a GREAT NVIS HF antenna!


Thanks. I don't own any of them, yet, but it sounds like a possibility.
I'm probably going to want DX, though, so NVIS isn't something that I'm
seeking. If I'm horizontal, I'll want some elevation.


The NVIS was not caused by the hamsticks, themselves,
but by their being VERY LOW!
(2 feet above my pickup cab is only 8-9 feet high)

I'm not in any way claiming hamsticks are the "best" antenna,
but if you elevated a dipole made of them, I'm sure they
would not act like cloud-burners anymore.

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"Owen Duffy" wrote in message
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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in
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I have two multiband trap verticals They are not exactly the same,
but close. Obviously they're intended to be mounted vertically above
a ground.

What happens if I mount them horizontally, base-to base? If I feed
one with coax as designed, would it see the other one as a
counterpoise? Could I remove any base matching components and feed
them both with a 1:1 balun, in effect duplicating the function of a
horizontal wire trap dipole?


Will water drain from the traps in their new configuration?

Owen


Probably not, unless I do something special, like custom drain holes. Being
in Southern California, we have a six-month virtually rain-free summer
coming up, so I suppose it cold be a fair-weather project. (What do you bet
I forget to take it down in October?)


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"Jimmie D" wrote in message news:46060d00$0$1379



Make sure your antenna is OK before you try this a lot of those old

Hustlers
are good for scrap.



Good idea.


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That part hadn't occurred to me. Come to think of it, I don't think
they were designed to withstand horizontal positioning, but then I
don't know the antennas. Anyway, good luck in the antenna.

Maybe a vertical dipole?


withstand horizontal positioning If I do this, I will have the thing
laying on the roof, at or near the peak, so support won't be a
consideration. (The far end of each unit could stick out and be
self-supporting.) Having it slide down the roof is a bigger worry.

vertical dipole Ahah! I started out with a 10m vertical dipole as my
first-ever HF antenna, last month. (It has since morphed into an OCF
horizontal dipole that I've stretched all the way to 40m with a homebrew
pi-network tuner I acquired at the swap meet.). To the point, two opposing
trap verticals as a single dipole would be a 70 foot vertical structure and
is not within my capabilities. (I would love to try it, though.)

"Sal"
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