John Smith I wrote:
2) It ain't happened yet--because we don't yet know enough.

Frankly, I think those coming up with new ideas will subscribe to the
second ...

We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method
for conversion of ordinary mass into energy.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:

...
We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method
for conversion of ordinary mass into energy.

Cecil:

Absolutely!

However, I am much more interested in converting energy to matter.

Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight
into gold!

NO, I am NOT talking about gardening marijuana. grin

Regards,
JS

John Smith I wrote:
Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight
into gold!

m = e/c^2 That would take a heck of a lot of sunlight.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight
into gold!

m = e/c^2 That would take a heck of a lot of sunlight.

Cecil:

OK. I suspect you correct.

I'll consider the marijuana. ;-)

Regards,
JS

On 1 Jun, 11:51, John Smith I wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:

...

We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method
for conversion of ordinary mass into energy.

Cecil:

Absolutely!

However, I am much more interested in converting energy to matter.

Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight
into gold!

NO, I am NOT talking about gardening marijuana. grin

Regards,
JS

John
DO do you think that Americans are not interested in experimenting any
more because
if anything new comes about that is usefull we can hire the engineers
from India
who have already done the research? Actually it seems that it has gone
beyond that
when you see the outcry against the Gaussian antenna or even boiling
water.
Do Americans really believe really believe that all is known and it is
a waste of time
to experiment? That if you are educated under the American system you
have the
ability to determine before hand what will work and what will not
work?
As an immigrant I was asked by the media the other day do I believe
that immigrants
that do the work that Americans wont do have a different aproach to
life?
I pointed him to read this newsgroup and make up his own mind , but I
also did tell
him to look up history to see how past Empires were lost, but I am not
sure
that he got my point
Art

art wrote:

...

Art:

Well, your point is well taken here.

Correct. They want the news media to filter all for them, thus
relieving them of exercising mental muscle for themselves.

They rely on denying anything new is coming along until it already is
developed and accepted; then they claim they knew it all along.

You'd think them embarrassed over the above; but then, you'd be mistaken.

However, the gaussian antenna escapes me ... at least for the present
time. But, I don't want the news to filter you! GRIN

Regards,
JS

"art" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 1 Jun, 11:51, John Smith I wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:

...

We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method
for conversion of ordinary mass into energy.

Cecil:

Absolutely!

However, I am much more interested in converting energy to matter.

Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight
into gold!

NO, I am NOT talking about gardening marijuana. grin

Regards,
JS

John
DO do you think that Americans are not interested in experimenting any
more because
if anything new comes about that is usefull we can hire the engineers
from India
who have already done the research? Actually it seems that it has gone
beyond that
when you see the outcry against the Gaussian antenna or even boiling
water.
Do Americans really believe really believe that all is known and it is
a waste of time
to experiment? That if you are educated under the American system you
have the
ability to determine before hand what will work and what will not
work?
As an immigrant I was asked by the media the other day do I believe
that immigrants
that do the work that Americans wont do have a different aproach to
life?
I pointed him to read this newsgroup and make up his own mind , but I
also did tell
him to look up history to see how past Empires were lost, but I am not
sure
that he got my point
Art


and just how do you know who on this group was educated where??

maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common
sense to recognize snake oil when we see it??

A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new
invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced
first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show???

Dave wrote:

...
and just how do you know who on this group was educated where??

maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common
sense to recognize snake oil when we see it??

A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new
invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced
first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show???



Did you use that same argument when quantum physics was first being
discussed?

If not, how did you know that "insane phenomenon" was real?

Although we have already developed experimental quantum computers and we
can exploit the phenomenon, we do not understand the underlying physics
to any real degree ...

JS

On 1 Jun, 13:25, John Smith I wrote:
Dave wrote:

...

and just how do you know who on this group was educated where??

maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common
sense to recognize snake oil when we see it??

A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new
invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced
first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show???

Did you use that same argument when quantum physics was first being
discussed?

If not, how did you know that "insane phenomenon" was real?

Although we have already developed experimental quantum computers and we
can exploit the phenomenon, we do not understand the underlying physics
to any real degree ...

JS

Hold on now John. He was one of the first to find out that american
mathematics
was given incorrect answers. He pointed that out when that MIT doctor
gave the mathematics to prove that adding the unit of time to both
sides
of the equation ( Gaussian statics law) changed a conservative field
to a non conservative field with respect to radiation.
On top of that most of the experts on the net agree with him.
To point out that american mathematics does not support
those of Gauss and Maxwell is indeed a major achievement and has
gained him mass support from the resident experts. All resist the idea
that
equilibrium exists.
Art

On 1 Jun, 13:15, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

oups.com...





On 1 Jun, 11:51, John Smith I wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:

...

We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method
for conversion of ordinary mass into energy.

Cecil:

Absolutely!

However, I am much more interested in converting energy to matter.

Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight
into gold!

NO, I am NOT talking about gardening marijuana. grin

Regards,
JS

John
DO do you think that Americans are not interested in experimenting any
more because
if anything new comes about that is usefull we can hire the engineers
from India
who have already done the research? Actually it seems that it has gone
beyond that
when you see the outcry against the Gaussian antenna or even boiling
water.
Do Americans really believe really believe that all is known and it is
a waste of time
to experiment? That if you are educated under the American system you
have the
ability to determine before hand what will work and what will not
work?
As an immigrant I was asked by the media the other day do I believe
that immigrants
that do the work that Americans wont do have a different aproach to
life?
I pointed him to read this newsgroup and make up his own mind , but I
also did tell
him to look up history to see how past Empires were lost, but I am not
sure
that he got my point
Art

and just how do you know who on this group was educated where??

maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common
sense to recognize snake oil when we see it??

A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new
invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced
first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show???- Hide quoted text -

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David,
I pointed him to this newsgroup because I considered you and others
with your
level of education and aproach to life was typical of the average
american.
If he read thru the this particular thread for instance I would allow
him
to figure out for himself from the educational responses the level of
education.
As for fear of the new or experimentation I suspect he would be as
baffled as I am tho I am sure he can recognise arrogance when he sees
it.
I pointed out to him what some of you see yourselfs as being the best
of America,
frankly I believe I did a diservice to the America of old, and
immigration
of the sciences from other countries is our only hope Check what Roy
has to say
with respect to the education of the masses, he considers himself to
be of
a higher level and more qualified than most that allows him to be a
judge.
Art