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The photon/wave properties of rf still remains a mystery ... and proof
hard to come by.

Regards,
JS


My photon emitters a a flashlight, TV, computer monitor
and
my photon receivers are : eyes, cameras, and binoculars
my antenna only reflects incidental photons.
The amount of photons reflected is proportional to the exposed surface area.
amazing.
can you capture a photon and release it at Will?
Would Will need to duck, or would blinking suffice?
Is a photon a particle, or does it conform to the wave theory?
Since light cannot escape a black hole, can we assume light consists of
particles with mass?
Can these particles move slower than the so-called 'speed of light'?
Does high tide affect the speed of a photon?
At what point does a gravity wave affect a photon or light wave?
These questions need answers, gentlemen, so lets get with it.
Let me know when you're done.




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can you capture a photon and release it at Will?

YES, DONE WITH LASERS IN A COLD TRAP

Would Will need to duck, or would blinking suffice?

DEPENDS UPON THE ENERGY OF THE PHOTON - IF IT IS A GAMMA, THEN DUCK!
Is a photon a particle, or does it conform to the wave theory?

YES
Since light cannot escape a black hole, can we assume light consists of
particles with mass?

NO. IT IS ENERGY AND E=MC^2
Can these particles move slower than the so-called 'speed of light'?

YUP.... REMEMBER SPEED IS PROPORTIONAL TO TIME AND TIME IS
PROPORTIONAL TO VELOCITY IT IS ALL RELATIVE
Does high tide affect the speed of a photon?

YUP BUT MY STOPWATCH HAS TROUBLE WITH SUCH SMALL TIME CHANGES
At what point does a gravity wave affect a photon or light wave?

AT ALL POINTS
These questions need answers, gentlemen, so lets get with it.
Let me know when you're done.

DONE

WHAT DO I WIN?

denny / k8do

BTW, while this is done in the spirit of fun all answers are accurate
as best I can make them based on my understanding of physics

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Denny wrote:

...
WHAT DO I WIN?

denny / k8do

BTW, while this is done in the spirit of fun all answers are accurate
as best I can make them based on my understanding of physics


For that, you get the golden quantum badge of know-it-all-ism. However,
it has been misplaced; and, everyone is claiming they never touched
it--only looked at it!

Regards,
JS
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WHAT DO I WIN?

denny / k8do

BTW, while this is done in the spirit of fun all answers are accurate
as best I can make them based on my understanding of physics


Good answers! - you win my respect.
I saw a program on Public TV a while back, and they were trying to tie Macro
and micro mechanics together with a String theory. There were several
dimensions, and according to that program, It appears gravity waves might be
the only common 'thread' between the several dimensions, and may hold the
key to communications from one dimension to another.

Now I want THAT transceiver! A gravity-wave transceiver.
CQ, CQ, CQ 8th Dimension Dahdidi dit diDahdah dididididah didahdahdit
dahdah didahdahdah
How can we modulate graviry waves Then demodulate them and make sense of
the result?

We need Radio shack for some answers. Yes sir, do you have a Gravity-Wave
Walkie-Talkie?



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Hal Rosser wrote:

...
Now I want THAT transceiver! A gravity-wave transceiver.
...


If I remember correctly, Alexander Graham Bell was working on a device
to communicate with the dead, just before his end?

Regards,
JS


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Hal Rosser wrote:
How can we modulate graviry waves


Modulating a gravity wave would probably distort the
space-time occupied by the operator. Maybe best to
limit operation to QRP levels.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
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John Smith wrote:
"The photon/wave properties of rf still remains a mystery ... and proof
is hard to come by."

Proof of the wave property is abundant. Electrical energy escapes into
free space in the form of waves. Countless observations prove it.
The wavefront is composed of the electric and magnetic fields at right
angles to each other and both are at right angles to the direction of
travel.

Direction of the electric flux is called the polarization of the wave.

Voltage on a wire properly aligned with the electric field varies along
the length of the wire and not very much across the width of the wire.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

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Richard Harrison wrote:
John Smith wrote:
"The photon/wave properties of rf still remains a mystery ... and proof
is hard to come by."

Proof of the wave property is abundant. Electrical energy escapes into
free space in the form of waves. Countless observations prove it.
...
Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


Richard:

You sing to the choir, and waves need a media to propagate through/on
.... plus, just as an extra kicker, they appear enough as particles to
have an arguable point--which brings us here.

Well, unless that thinking is wrong and there is no ether (medium.)
And, radio "waves" are nothing but flying packets of energy stings ...
scratches head

Warmest regards,
JS
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On 30 Aug, 10:32, John Smith wrote:
Richard Harrison wrote:
John Smith wrote:
"The photon/wave properties of rf still remains a mystery ... and proof
is hard to come by."


Proof of the wave property is abundant. Electrical energy escapes into
free space in the form of waves. Countless observations prove it.
...
Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


Richard:

You sing to the choir, and waves need a media to propagate through/on
... plus, just as an extra kicker, they appear enough as particles to
have an arguable point--which brings us here.

Well, unless that thinking is wrong and there is no ether (medium.)
And, radio "waves" are nothing but flying packets of energy stings ...
scratches head

Warmest regards,
JS


Agreed. Evidence is that the particles are separated from its
companion radiator
into space and those that do not escape are drawn back to the
radiatior where it decay's.
There is no "abundance" of evidence to either side of the particle
wave debate,
only the evidence that has been chosen for the moment at least until
the printer of science books get back to work again.
Ofcourse some say if it is in a book then that is what is correct,
just like on the web!
Of course if one considers that a particle that is projected into
space creates a magnetic field
then the question is what came first, the particulate or the magnetic
field of constant polarity.
Art

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art wrote:

...
only the evidence that has been chosen for the moment at least until
the printer of science books get back to work again.
Ofcourse some say if it is in a book then that is what is correct,
just like on the web!
...
Art


Art:

When we make this final leap, explain that one-more-thing which will
trigger that flood of understanding, that revelation, that epiphany--we
will only look back and marvel that it took us so long--that we were so
close, for so long ...

An example is the atomic bomb. We always knew that if you pile up a lot
of pure radioactive material--you get heat--we speculated with a great
belief that an explosion from this process was possible. But putting it
all together, getting the right isotope with the extra atomic particles
available and a system to SLAM! enough of the material together (~2.2Kg)
and an "exploding bottle" of force to surround it and keep it together
so it didn't just melt/vaporize/weak-poof but would burst out in a
healthy explosion, until then, we hadn't really discovered the atomic
bomb ...

We stand such a threshold now, this "silence of new discovery" only
leads before the "storm of revelation(s)", that very next step may take
us there ... or, so I hope.

Somewhere out there is the mind(s) which will accomplish it. We simply
need to continue the discussion and search--keep the candle in the window.

Simply put, we need an Einstein and a Manhattan Project.

Or, perhaps we only just need a bunch more high IQ "kooks" in their
basements with wires and reactances--thinking and building from their
imaginations.

Regards,
JS



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