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Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:
I guess you still cannot get over your fixation on traveling waves.
Too bad; you miss so much when wearing blinders.


Sloshing EM energy is only a math shortcut which
violates the laws of physics and exists only in
your mind (and others). Traveling EM waves agree
with the laws of physics and can be observed with
one's own eyes.

When math shortcuts become one's religion, one
has a definite problem.


Cecil,

I will not argue with you about mobile antenna shootouts.

However, I will compare my physics education to yours any day. Which
law(s) of physics do you think I have violated?

8-)

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Gene Fuller wrote:
However, I will compare my physics education to yours any day. Which
law(s) of physics do you think I have violated?


"Sloshing" EM waves violates the conservation
of momentum principle.

What reverses the momentum of an EM wave at the
point where it starts "sloshing" around when
there is no physical impedance discontinuity?

In terms of optics, how does light energy just
start "sloshing" around in free space when
there is no change in index of refraction in
the medium?

Given Hecht's equation for a light standing wave
in free space, where are the terms that cause
the "sloshing"?
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:
However, I will compare my physics education to yours any day. Which
law(s) of physics do you think I have violated?


"Sloshing" EM waves violates the conservation
of momentum principle.

What reverses the momentum of an EM wave at the
point where it starts "sloshing" around when
there is no physical impedance discontinuity?

In terms of optics, how does light energy just
start "sloshing" around in free space when
there is no change in index of refraction in
the medium?

Given Hecht's equation for a light standing wave
in free space, where are the terms that cause
the "sloshing"?


Cecil,

That's a good one. I did not know that a transmission line is "free space".

Try again.

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Gene Fuller wrote:
That's a good one. I did not know that a transmission line is "free space".


It doesn't matter what the medium is - EM waves
obey the conservation of momentum principle in
any medium. Your "sloshing" waves violate that
accepted principle of physics. Sorry.
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:
That's a good one. I did not know that a transmission line is "free
space".


It doesn't matter what the medium is - EM waves
obey the conservation of momentum principle in
any medium. Your "sloshing" waves violate that
accepted principle of physics. Sorry.


Cecil,

This entire thread is silly beyond belief. In any case, no matter how
irrelevant, there is no problem at all in balancing momentum when there
is lots of stuff around. Momentum is a completely useless concept in
this example.

But I will declare you to be the winner. 8-)

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Gene
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Gene Fuller wrote:
Momentum is a completely useless concept in this example.


Obviously useless for your side of the argument. :-)
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