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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:26:23 -0700, Jim-NN7K .
wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:05:19 -0700, Jim-NN7K . wrote: Thanks- just was curious- while still working had sites with wedge shaped antennas- one broke its ray-dome - these (Scala?) were on 960MHz , and the antenna itself appeared to be a Log-Periodic , on a double sided Printed Circuit board- Just curious as to the effects on impedence, and element lengths-spacing , as to how this antenna was designed. Jim NN7K Would a photo help? This is the guts of a Sinclair SRL441-2P: http://11junk.com/jeffl/antennas/Sinclair%20SRL441-2P/index.html Data sheet at: http://www.sinclairtechnologies.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=962 Yep, Thats the Beast! These used by railroad, for double track installations, for boxcar readers (Automatic Equipment Identification) and mounted at ground level, aimed up about 30 degree angle,to read ID tags. Thanks, Jim NN7K We'll, there's not much that I can tell you about the design. It's a log-periodic antenna built onto a PCB. It's not G10/FR4 and might be Polysulfone. Like the LPDA acronym suggests, it's nothing but a mess of dipoles at varying frequencies, which results in lots of bandwidth and not much gain. This might help with the numbers: http://www.changpuak.ch/electronics/lpda.html Use Frequency 800-1000MHz and 180mm boom length. It's not exactly the same as the Sinclair LPDA uses staggered elements. Other calculators: http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/jolt/345/LogCalc.html LPDA Excel Spreadsheet calcs: http://www.astro.hr/ucionica/radioastronomy/antenna/lpda.zip Another LPDA calculator (that I haven't tried): http://www.astro.hr/ucionica/radioastronomy/antenna/lpcad23.zip More light reading: http://www.wolfgang-rolke.de/antennas/ant_400.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log-periodic_antenna A $40 commerical LPDA for 400-1000GHz. http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=LPY41 If you want to see the effects of juggling spacing, element count, and boom length, it's probably best to use an antenna modeling program. Looks like you have EZNEC, which will work. If you download the 4NEC2 antenna modeling program, you'll also get a mess of example NEC2 files. There's a directory under: c:\4nec2\models\logper\ with 4 log periodic antennas, mostly for HF. EZNEC can read them. I can probably conjur my bad guess of a model of the Sinclair antenna, but I'm playing vacation and would rather be doing something else. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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