Cecil Moore wrote:

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Please prove that the "Holy Spirit" exists outside
of the human mind.

Remember, "Holy" and "Grain" both have the same name. Most likely come
from the same lineage; they might even be brothers!

Some ancient text from the bible I once read, if I remember correctly,
said something akin to, " ... take a little wine for the spirit ..."
Obviously a toast to one, or both, of those brothers!

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
What am I missing?

Even if an omnipotent being is not omniscient, he is.:-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:

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Even if an omnipotent being is not omniscient, he is.:-)

As soon as I "cement" what can happen in my mind, or the realm of
possibilities, I also change what will happen ...

How can I limit a God (aliens, etc.) I cannot even begin to fathom,
indeed, how can anyone?

Perhaps time is like an infinite building of rooms, the past is but a
series of rooms in one direction from the "present room", the future an
endless series of rooms stretching the other direction. And, perhaps
God walks these rooms with the ease I do my own home ...

I hate to even do this speculation, as I begin to place limits which may
divert me away from envisioning other possibilities ... when we know
more about time, we will finally be able to make far better guesstimates.

When something is truly "unknown", it is truly unknown ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
When something is truly "unknown", it is truly unknown ...

Unfortunately, with an omniscient God, the future is known
and cannot be changed by your "free will".
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

On Sep 1, 3:31*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
A common mode choke is used in RF applications, very true, but it
serves a filtering purpose, not a conversion of unbalanced to
balanced energy transfer or vice
versa. A common mode choke that operates well will turn
unwanted RF into heat or cause it to dissipate in its core or a
resistor etc..

The common "W2DU balun" works well as both choke and
balun function.
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73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com

Yes and I have to partially take back what I said; a balun CAN double
as a CM "choke" and a CM choke can double as a balun. If
one wishes to balance an unbalanced line with a CM choke, then the
impedance of the CM choke must match the source and the load, which
makes the CM choke a balun and no longer a choke :-)

On Sep 1, 3:25*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
I use an ugly balun with an attic GRrV and do not suffer significant
back-RFI to my transceiver in the regular frequency ranges. I think
that by chosing 1Kohm that may be a bit conservative. In (old)
engineering school, we tended to use an order of magnitude (X10) as
our highly arbitrary cut-off point for impedances that have a
significant effect. You are doing that too but by using 1000 ohms, you
are using (X10 times 2) as your arbitrary cutoff point. Since the
filter is an exponential curve, if you chose 500 ohms instead of 1000
ohms, you might even get a 4 or 5 to 1 frequency range. In my case I
use two different turns chokes so that is why I think I am covered
pretty well. Your information is very interesting; good to see people
are actually measuring things!

Actually, 1000 ohms is pretty liberal. For instance, on
15m, the G5RV coax sees 36+j230 ohms or about 233 ohms.
The balun needs to be 10x that value or 2330 ohms.
--
73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com

Why not 500 ohms, assuming a 50 ohm source and transmission line?

Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
When something is truly "unknown", it is truly unknown ...

Unfortunately, with an omniscient God, the future is known
and cannot be changed by your "free will".

Well, we are now focused on the crux of the matter, alright.

However, I see him/her/it/the-aliens only being able to view the after
effects of my free will ... in my speculation(s) of how-this-all-works,
of course.

I see the mind of God as having similarities to my own (man created in
Gods' image--it is most difficult for me to see it any other way.) He
would not conduct an "experiment" in which he controlled all action;
the reason? Too boring. The variable is my freewill which provides the
seed-of-chaos, however, one piece of equipment in "his laboratory"
allows him to view the final outcome(s), and ahead of me experiencing
the same.

But then, I have nothing to argue against the way you would envision it
.... can we agree to wonder until some point in the future offers a proof
worth extrapolating from?

Or, in other words, the only horse I have in the race is curiosity of
"the truth."

Regards,
JS

wrote:

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Yes and I have to partially take back what I said; a balun CAN double
as a CM "choke" and a CM choke can double as a balun. If
one wishes to balance an unbalanced line with a CM choke, then the
impedance of the CM choke must match the source and the load, which
makes the CM choke a balun and no longer a choke :-)



Although this URL:

http://www.radioelectronicschool.net.../ocfdipole.pdf

deals with a Windom Antenna, his text on the design, construction,
function and implementation of baluns is well worth the read.

Regards,
JS

wrote in news:6f4f9e36-af26-4f1b-9244-383494f77b26
@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

On Sep 1, 3:25*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
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Actually, 1000 ohms is pretty liberal. For instance, on
15m, the G5RV coax sees 36+j230 ohms or about 233 ohms.
The balun needs to be 10x that value or 2330 ohms.
--
73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com

Why not 500 ohms, assuming a 50 ohm source and transmission line?


The common mode impedance of the balun acts in the common mode
transmission line (which is mutually coupled to the nominal radiator).

How is the differential mode transmission line characteristic impedance
relevant to the determination of common mode current in the antenna
system scenario described?

Owen

"John Smith" wrote in message
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wrote:

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Yes and I have to partially take back what I said; a balun CAN double
as a CM "choke" and a CM choke can double as a balun. If
one wishes to balance an unbalanced line with a CM choke, then the
impedance of the CM choke must match the source and the load, which
makes the CM choke a balun and no longer a choke :-)



Although this URL:

http://www.radioelectronicschool.net.../ocfdipole.pdf

deals with a Windom Antenna, his text on the design, construction,
function and implementation of baluns is well worth the read.

Regards,
JS

It's a trivial point, I agree, but there is one error in the url JS provided
above that needs correcting. The VK author tells us that the Windom antenna was
invented by Loren G. Windom. Tain't so. It was invented (developed) by William
Everitt, then the Dean of the EE Dept at Ohio State U. Everitt was doing the
grunt work and taking measurements along with another OSU professor. However.
Loren Windom was a student of Everitt's, and was tagging along and observing.
Then, later on he wrote up the experiment and had it published in QST sometime
in 1929, and as well as I can remember, he failed to give Everitt any credit for
having done the actual work. Consequently, readers of QST assumed it was
Windom's invention, while it actually was not.

Walt, W2DU