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On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:42:31 -0400, Jon Mcleod
wrote: Mr. Clark, The control is another steak is similar size from the same grocery packaging, placed in a second apparatus that is not powered. The idea is that a certain frequencies of low-voltage e-fields inhibit cellular mitosis. The professor saw an article in Science magazine about treating cancer with these fields, and decided it would be a nice lab activity for his students to observe other effects with this type of field. http://www.rife.de/files/disruption_...eplication.pdf Hi Jon, Let's examine the hypothesis of "low-voltage e-fields" in light of the source: In Vitro Experimental Set Up. Cultures were grown in standard culture dishes (4-well cell culture chambers; SN 138121; Nalge Nunc International). The TTFields were generated by pairs of 15-mm-long, completely insulated wires (P/N K-30–1000; VT Corporation; outer diameter, 0.5 mm; ethylene tetrafluoroethylene insulation thickness, 0.125 mm; dielectric breakdown, 1800 V/mil) fixed to the bottom of each dish at a distance of 1 mm from each other. The wires were connected to an oscillator (GFG8219A; Instek) and a high-voltage amplifier (A303; A. A. Lab Systems Ltd.) that generated the required sine-wave signals (range, 300-800 V). This would equate to an average of 5,500V/cM or roughly 275kV across the chest of a convict. History reveals that this prisoner would be specially prepared with conductive paste and electrodes that were NOT insulated (such as specified in your source). Thus we have two differences: 1. Frequency (100KHz vs. 60 Hz); 2. Insulation; 3. Application (in situ vs. in vitro). Since generating an e-field in "meat" or "plant material" is not so easy, this is part of the assignment. We need to figure it out and then fully describe it in our methods section. The leaf people are using high-voltage insulated wires. With "meat", which is larger, I don't think this will work. I am wondering if I can use a low-voltage direct connection. You would then be changing the conditions from testing fields to testing conduction. Ask yourself, if faced with the prospects of sitting in the electric chair, would you care to amend the conditions to include insulative pads at all points that formerly contacted the seat? Your rational answer would suggest you already know you are redefining expectations. My problem is that our group is weak on electromagnetism. They have been floundering, and now I am floundering with them. I have some ideas, but ideas are best vetted through those with PRACTICAL experience, which you guys seem to have. I have also wasted almost 2 weeks by sitting in the wrong group. OK I am an idiot in terms of BOTH electromagnetism and reading directions. Bottom line: I need to generate a 1V/cm field across a t-bone steak. Merit or no merit (this is college). Does anyone have any place I might look on line, or any book I might buy, or any advice on how I might accomplish this? You stick to the source if you want a good grade. To replicate the experiment, you have to conform exactly to the conditions, but not necessarily the means. It follows from shallow reading (speaking of my own efforts, not yours) that there is not much current flowing (otherwise this would immediately place us in the chair with the convict). This is to your advantage. You use the function generator you have, apply it to what is called a step-up transformer to obtain the voltage specified; and you come very close to the original conditions. Your function generator should have enough power to both step-up and supply the low current (you will have to confirm this through other means). You will have to use a small portion of meat because this is an e-field experiment that is measured in volt/meter. Choosing a T-Bone exacerbates your voltage problem, and making a direct connection invalidates it. Almost any insulated wire will perform adequately, the source is simply providing information for you to choose a suitable alternative, it is not necessary to find the exact reel of wire from a specific manufacturer. Google for the topic "100 KHz voltage transformer" and you will find a design that shows you how to construct one within an hour of obtaining the cheap components. It is merely a matter of ratios (how much voltage out of your function generator, and how much do you need?). This, of course, requires you to have a voltmeter that measures voltage at that frequency. Go to the EE department and visit their second year circuits lab. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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