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"Arnie Coro Antenna"
I built this years ago as a quick antenna for receiving and transmitting. It is name after Havana Cuba's Arnie Coro, since He came up with it over 20 years ago.
1. Take a 45 ft/15 meter 52 ohm Coax, or multiples up or down. 2. Dress it as center conductor and braid on both ends. 3. Solder a 50 OHM resisitor on one end, connecting the center and the braid. 4. On the other end, solder a piece of coax. with braid to center conductor, center conductor to braid. On the other end, solder a PL-259, or whatever your rig accepts.. Then connect it to your receiver/transmitter. 5. You now have a balanced, low noise antenna. I would suggest a 10 watt or hgher resistor for the amount of power you are going to use if transmitting.
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"Arnie Coro Antenna"
On Feb 4, 4:15*pm, KE5LDO wrote:
I built this years ago as a quick antenna for receiving and transmitting. It is name after Havana Cuba's Arnie Coro, since He came up with it over 20 years ago. 1. Take a 45 ft/15 meter 52 ohm Coax, or multiples up or down. 2. *Dress it as center conductor and braid on both ends. 3. Solder a 50 OHM resisitor on one end, connecting the center and the braid. 4. *On the other end, solder a piece of coax. with braid to center conductor, center conductor to braid. On the other end, solder a PL-259, or whatever your rig accepts.. Then connect it to your receiver/transmitter. 5. You now have a balanced, low noise antenna. *I would suggest a 10 watt or hgher resistor for the amount of power you are going to use if transmitting. -- KE5LDO It's not April 1, 2009 yet... :/ |
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"Arnie Coro Antenna"
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:15:09 +0000, KE5LDO
wrote: I built this years ago as a quick antenna for receiving and transmitting. It is name after Havana Cuba's Arnie Coro, since He came up with it over 20 years ago. Did Fidel put Arnie against the wall when he published how to construct a TRANSMITTING antenna? He should have if for no other reason than the arbitrary instructions: 1. Take a 45 ft/15 meter 52 ohm Coax, or multiples up or down. What significance is 45 feet (or 15 meters)? Is this a magic number? 2. Dress it as center conductor and braid on both ends. Dress right, or dress left? 3. Solder a 50 OHM resisitor on one end, connecting the center and the braid. Wouldn't a 50 Ohm resistor present a SWR of 1.04:1? This isn't about efficiency, is it? 4. On the other end, solder a piece of coax. with braid to center conductor, center conductor to braid. On the other end, solder a PL-259, or whatever your rig accepts.. Then connect it to your receiver/transmitter. Shouldn't this be 4(a) and 4(b)? For 4(a) What happened to the resistor? For 4(b) Why the connector? Just run the existing line out to 4(a) 5. You now have a balanced, low noise antenna. I would suggest a 10 watt or hgher resistor for the amount of power you are going to use if transmitting. Why would you use a resistor for receiving? If it were for transmitting, I can see why Cuba is still under domination by the Castros. Something must have been lost in translation - or maybe the process of getting through the communist censors. Perhaps this was the CIA antenna design for the Bay of Pigs. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:15:09 +0000, KE5LDO wrote: I built this years ago as a quick antenna for receiving and transmitting. It is name after Havana Cuba's Arnie Coro, since He came up with it over 20 years ago. Did Fidel put Arnie against the wall when he published how to construct a TRANSMITTING antenna? He should have if for no other reason than the arbitrary instructions: 1. Take a 45 ft/15 meter 52 ohm Coax, or multiples up or down. What significance is 45 feet (or 15 meters)? Is this a magic number? 2. Dress it as center conductor and braid on both ends. Dress right, or dress left? 3. Solder a 50 OHM resisitor on one end, connecting the center and the braid. Wouldn't a 50 Ohm resistor present a SWR of 1.04:1? This isn't about efficiency, is it? 4. On the other end, solder a piece of coax. with braid to center conductor, center conductor to braid. On the other end, solder a PL-259, or whatever your rig accepts.. Then connect it to your receiver/transmitter. Shouldn't this be 4(a) and 4(b)? For 4(a) What happened to the resistor? For 4(b) Why the connector? Just run the existing line out to 4(a) 5. You now have a balanced, low noise antenna. I would suggest a 10 watt or hgher resistor for the amount of power you are going to use if transmitting. Why would you use a resistor for receiving? If it were for transmitting, I can see why Cuba is still under domination by the Castros. Something must have been lost in translation - or maybe the process of getting through the communist censors. Perhaps this was the CIA antenna design for the Bay of Pigs. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC You can look up Arnie's website on Google, go there, and read for yourself what Arnie's idea of an antenna is. The poster is pulling a fast one. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:56:30 -0800, Richard Clark
wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:15:09 +0000, KE5LDO wrote: I built this years ago as a quick antenna for receiving and transmitting. It is name after Havana Cuba's Arnie Coro, since He came up with it over 20 years ago. Did Fidel put Arnie against the wall when he published how to construct a TRANSMITTING antenna? He should have if for no other reason than the arbitrary instructions: 1. Take a 45 ft/15 meter 52 ohm Coax, or multiples up or down. What significance is 45 feet (or 15 meters)? Is this a magic number? 2. Dress it as center conductor and braid on both ends. Dress right, or dress left? 3. Solder a 50 OHM resisitor on one end, connecting the center and the braid. Wouldn't a 50 Ohm resistor present a SWR of 1.04:1? This isn't about efficiency, is it? 4. On the other end, solder a piece of coax. with braid to center conductor, center conductor to braid. On the other end, solder a PL-259, or whatever your rig accepts.. Then connect it to your receiver/transmitter. Shouldn't this be 4(a) and 4(b)? For 4(a) What happened to the resistor? For 4(b) Why the connector? Just run the existing line out to 4(a) 5. You now have a balanced, low noise antenna. I would suggest a 10 watt or hgher resistor for the amount of power you are going to use if transmitting. Why would you use a resistor for receiving? If it were for transmitting, I can see why Cuba is still under domination by the Castros. Something must have been lost in translation - or maybe the process of getting through the communist censors. Perhaps this was the CIA antenna design for the Bay of Pigs. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC no no, that is the perfect example of a dummy load with a radiating cable. w. |
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"Tom Donaly" wrote in message ... You can look up Arnie's website on Google, go there, and read for yourself what Arnie's idea of an antenna is. The poster is pulling a fast one. Arnie Coro's website does discuss the item described. http://www.mail-archive.com/hard-cor.../msg18595.html He doesn't claim it works well (nor should he). At one point he describes burying it to stealth it. When I was moving an antenna, I had both dipole elements laying on the ground but still connected. Just for laughs, I tuned it up. I could hear a few other people but nobody could hear me. I think burying an HF antenna should be followed by a shopping trip for some writing paper and stamps. You'll need 'em. |
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"Helmut Wabnig" hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat wrote in message ... On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:56:30 -0800, Richard Clark wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:15:09 +0000, KE5LDO wrote: I built this years ago as a quick antenna for receiving and transmitting. It is name after Havana Cuba's Arnie Coro, since He came up with it over 20 years ago. Did Fidel put Arnie against the wall when he published how to construct a TRANSMITTING antenna? He should have if for no other reason than the arbitrary instructions: 1. Take a 45 ft/15 meter 52 ohm Coax, or multiples up or down. What significance is 45 feet (or 15 meters)? Is this a magic number? 2. Dress it as center conductor and braid on both ends. Dress right, or dress left? 3. Solder a 50 OHM resisitor on one end, connecting the center and the braid. Wouldn't a 50 Ohm resistor present a SWR of 1.04:1? This isn't about efficiency, is it? 4. On the other end, solder a piece of coax. with braid to center conductor, center conductor to braid. On the other end, solder a PL-259, or whatever your rig accepts.. Then connect it to your receiver/transmitter. Shouldn't this be 4(a) and 4(b)? For 4(a) What happened to the resistor? For 4(b) Why the connector? Just run the existing line out to 4(a) 5. You now have a balanced, low noise antenna. I would suggest a 10 watt or hgher resistor for the amount of power you are going to use if transmitting. Why would you use a resistor for receiving? If it were for transmitting, I can see why Cuba is still under domination by the Castros. Something must have been lost in translation - or maybe the process of getting through the communist censors. Perhaps this was the CIA antenna design for the Bay of Pigs. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC no no, that is the perfect example of a dummy load with a radiating cable. w. - At one time, I lived in an apartment and used a similar, shorter antenna for 2 meter operation via a repeater. It was easy to build, and worked fine because I didn't need much signal to hit the repeater. --Wayne |
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Wayne........That's interesting.....Can you elaborate on that 2 meter
antenna you had? I wonder if one were to make a longer version would it have gain & a wider bandwidth? "Wayne" wrote in message ... "Helmut Wabnig" hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat wrote in message ... On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:56:30 -0800, Richard Clark wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:15:09 +0000, KE5LDO wrote: I built this years ago as a quick antenna for receiving and transmitting. It is name after Havana Cuba's Arnie Coro, since He came up with it over 20 years ago. Did Fidel put Arnie against the wall when he published how to construct a TRANSMITTING antenna? He should have if for no other reason than the arbitrary instructions: 1. Take a 45 ft/15 meter 52 ohm Coax, or multiples up or down. What significance is 45 feet (or 15 meters)? Is this a magic number? 2. Dress it as center conductor and braid on both ends. Dress right, or dress left? 3. Solder a 50 OHM resisitor on one end, connecting the center and the braid. Wouldn't a 50 Ohm resistor present a SWR of 1.04:1? This isn't about efficiency, is it? 4. On the other end, solder a piece of coax. with braid to center conductor, center conductor to braid. On the other end, solder a PL-259, or whatever your rig accepts.. Then connect it to your receiver/transmitter. Shouldn't this be 4(a) and 4(b)? For 4(a) What happened to the resistor? For 4(b) Why the connector? Just run the existing line out to 4(a) 5. You now have a balanced, low noise antenna. I would suggest a 10 watt or hgher resistor for the amount of power you are going to use if transmitting. Why would you use a resistor for receiving? If it were for transmitting, I can see why Cuba is still under domination by the Castros. Something must have been lost in translation - or maybe the process of getting through the communist censors. Perhaps this was the CIA antenna design for the Bay of Pigs. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC no no, that is the perfect example of a dummy load with a radiating cable. w. - At one time, I lived in an apartment and used a similar, shorter antenna for 2 meter operation via a repeater. It was easy to build, and worked fine because I didn't need much signal to hit the repeater. --Wayne |
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"Spin" wrote in message ... Wayne........That's interesting.....Can you elaborate on that 2 meter antenna you had? I wonder if one were to make a longer version would it have gain & a wider bandwidth? Sure. However, I'm not recommending it for anything. As I recall it was a quarter wave of coax terminated in a 10 watt dummy load. The quarter wave was connected as previously described, with the shield of the quarter wave connected to the center conductor of the feedline and the shield of the feedline connected to the center conductor of tthe quarter wave. I was just trying to get a dummy load to radiate enough for a short path to a repeater. (Transmitter ran 10 watts) At a different time, I simply terminated a feedline (low quality RShack RG-58) with a 10 watt carbon resistor (unshielded and 3 inch leads). It worked about the same. However, remember that I was only trying to hit a single repeater, and a whip antenna with just a few milliwatts would have worked on that particular path. The "antenna" was very poor, but there may be paths where it is an acceptable compromise. |
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Wayne wrote:
"Spin" wrote in message ... Wayne........That's interesting.....Can you elaborate on that 2 meter antenna you had? I wonder if one were to make a longer version would it have gain & a wider bandwidth? Sure. However, I'm not recommending it for anything. As I recall it was a quarter wave of coax terminated in a 10 watt dummy load. The quarter wave was connected as previously described, with the shield of the quarter wave connected to the center conductor of the feedline and the shield of the feedline connected to the center conductor of tthe quarter wave. I was just trying to get a dummy load to radiate enough for a short path to a repeater. (Transmitter ran 10 watts) At a different time, I simply terminated a feedline (low quality RShack RG-58) with a 10 watt carbon resistor (unshielded and 3 inch leads). It worked about the same. However, remember that I was only trying to hit a single repeater, and a whip antenna with just a few milliwatts would have worked on that particular path. The "antenna" was very poor, but there may be paths where it is an acceptable compromise. Think of this as a variant on taking a 1/4 wave of wire and attaching it to the center conductor of the feedline (or, just stripping 1/4wave of shield off the coax) with no choke, balun, or anything else. It's a sort of sleeve dipole: The "outside" of the feedline coax essentially acts as the other half of the dipole. Depending on where it's installed, it might work, might not. No decoupling means that the whole feedline potentially radiates, etc. Probably no worse than a lot of other improvised antennas. Put a really good choke around the coax at the 1/4 wave point, and it starts to look better, but, having the feedline essentially hanging off the end of the dipole means that you've got conductors in the high E field part of the antenna, so there will be capacitive coupling. Doing the Coro style thing with the resistor, etc, in effect makes this another of the many "resistively loaded dipole" schemes where you give up some efficiency in exchange for a better match. No different in concept (although different in design) from the T2FD sorts of things from B&W, etc. |
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