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JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 14, 2:31 pm, Cecil Moore wrote: Jim Kelley wrote: Ah. So you didn't actually follow Will Rogers advice to: "Be sure you are right, and then go on ahead." I was sure I was right and then made the measurements that proved it. The established laws of physics don't require additional measurements. Have you proved Maxwell's equations lately? When one needs to delay a signal, one can install a coil to accomplish that need. Why is it so hard to accept that coils cause delays? -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com What would be the difference in the amount of time it takes a pulse to travel from feedpoint and be reflected back to the feed point comparing a 1/4 wl 40 meter antenna to a 15ft loaded antenna center loaded to resonate at 40 meters? Jimmie Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? 73, ac6xg |
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On Apr 14, 3:29*pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
JIMMIE wrote: On Apr 14, 2:31 pm, Cecil Moore wrote: Jim Kelley wrote: Ah. *So you didn't actually follow Will Rogers advice to: "Be sure you are right, and then go on ahead." I was sure I was right and then made the measurements that proved it. The established laws of physics don't require additional measurements. Have you proved Maxwell's equations lately? When one needs to delay a signal, one can install a coil to accomplish that need. Why is it so hard to accept that coils cause delays? -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, *http://www.w5dxp.com What would be the difference in the amount of time it takes a pulse to travel from feedpoint and be reflected back to the feed point comparing a 1/4 wl 40 meter antenna to a 15ft loaded antenna center loaded to resonate at 40 meters? Jimmie Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? 73, ac6xg- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would like to hear anyones opinion on it. Jimmie |
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JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:29 pm, Jim Kelley wrote: Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? I would like to hear anyones opinion on it. Jimmie Does anyone besides me suspect that JIMMIE talking to Jim is the same person? -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Apr 14, 1:09*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
JIMMIE wrote: On Apr 14, 3:29 pm, Jim Kelley wrote: Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? I would like to hear anyones opinion on it. Jimmie Does anyone besides me suspect that JIMMIE talking to Jim is the same person? -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, *http://www.w5dxp.com The voices say aye. ac6xg |
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On Apr 14, 8:16*pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
On Apr 14, 1:09*pm, Cecil Moore wrote: JIMMIE wrote: On Apr 14, 3:29 pm, Jim Kelley wrote: Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? I would like to hear anyones opinion on it. Jimmie Does anyone besides me suspect that JIMMIE talking to Jim is the same person? -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, *http://www.w5dxp.com The voices say aye. ac6xg The voices are wrong, it doesnt take a lot of digging to find out who I am if you really want to know, Ive been here for years. I just dont like my identity plastered on newsgroups. Jimmie |
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On Apr 15, 7:35*am, JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 14, 8:16*pm, Jim Kelley wrote: On Apr 14, 1:09*pm, Cecil Moore wrote: JIMMIE wrote: On Apr 14, 3:29 pm, Jim Kelley wrote: Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? I would like to hear anyones opinion on it. Jimmie Does anyone besides me suspect that JIMMIE talking to Jim is the same person? -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, *http://www.w5dxp.com The voices say aye. ac6xg The voices are wrong, it doesnt take a lot of digging to find out who I am if you really want to know, Ive been here for years. Yes, but don't you see? That's the clever deception. You could have appended three letters to your first name and typed it in all caps, and then only somebody as smart as Cecil could figure out that you are actually me. Not even we would know it. :-) 73, ac6xg |
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![]() "JIMMIE" wrote in message ... On Apr 14, 3:29 pm, Jim Kelley wrote: I would like to hear anyones opinion on it. Everyone can have an opinion... but it takes an engineer with the proper instruments to have the answer. |
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Jim Kelley wrote:
Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? If you had any idea of what you were talking about, you would know that the total phase shift is unrelated to the total delay. Some incremental phase shifts are related to the velocity factor. Some incremental phase shifts are instantaneous. If you don't already know that, you don't know how to use a Smith Chart. -- 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote: Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? If you had any idea of what you were talking about, you would know that the total phase shift is unrelated to the total delay. But you're doing all the talking, Cecil - providing profound and knowledgeable insights as in the above observation that phase shift and delay are unrelated. ac6xg |
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:52:16 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: Jim Kelley wrote: Do you want him to tell you what he believes it is, or what he has actually measured it to be? If you had any idea of what you were talking about, you would know that the total phase shift is unrelated to the total delay. But you're doing all the talking, Cecil - providing profound and knowledgeable insights as in the above observation that phase shift and delay are unrelated. Exceedingly profound. Is there a third, unpublished, cosine parameter (Suppressed Hypothetical Interval Term) for delay that is not phase nor position? This must be another one of Cecil's "you are right, but you are wrong about what you thought you were thinking about." 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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