This week end is going to be wet and cold, so I thought I would give
you a radiator to play with if you are willing to make something for
yourself.
Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house. Soak this piece of mesh in some watered down
muriatic acid (approx $5 a bottle at a hardware store This is to
remove the insulating coating so it becomes conductive. Now this mesh
is woven so it helps to compress the strands together by tapping with
a hammer. Connect a MFJ259B to the base corners and scan to see where
the resonant frequency is.
I used a 8" x5" piece of mesh and it was resonant from about 110 to
140
MHZ so it is quite broad banded and easy to find the resonance The
vertical strands carry the applied current and the capacitance square
holes in between is a electrostatic field around which the
displacement current flows. What you have, basically, is a full wave
dipole folded very closely upon itself to form a closed circuit with a
low impedance. This is basically a transmission line if the ends are
open. The cross jumpers take the place of dielectric spacers that are
present on a open transmission line so that they may enclose an
electrostatic field created by the displacement current. The vertical
strands are really in series ,so you have effectively placed a long
length of wire into a small volume which you may shape into any form.
To play with this further, place it above a conductive sheet and note
the changes. Then try pinning it together into a cylinder and note the
changes.
Have fun playing with it.
Looking at the physics side of things. When a particle is generated by
the Sun it goes to the border and even tho it is extremely small it
breaks the border by applying a straight force vector together with a
circular vector. This same combination repeats itself when current is
applied to a radiator which also produces a circular current. These
same vectors are later repeated with gravity in combination with
rotation all of which are per laws of Newton. The particles that
escape from the sun sheath conductive materials on Earth. This is
explained by making the Gaussian field for statics a dynamic one so
that it becomes the same as Maxwells laws. The combination of fields
from the applied current when intersecting the electrostatic field
dislodges particles by elevation with spin while accellerating to the
maximum speed which is that of light so the particle can take on a
straight line trajectory with spin where the Gravity vector is
cancelled.
Elermentry explanation of the weak force in the Standard model
(Patents applied for)
Art

Art

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...
This week end is going to be wet and cold, so I thought I would give
you a radiator to play with if you are willing to make something for
yourself.
Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house. Soak this piece of mesh in some watered down
muriatic acid (approx $5 a bottle at a hardware store This is to
remove the insulating coating so it becomes conductive. Now this mesh
is woven so it helps to compress the strands together by tapping with
a hammer. Connect a MFJ259B to the base corners and scan to see where
the resonant frequency is.
I used a 8" x5" piece of mesh and it was resonant from about 110 to
140
MHZ so it is quite broad banded and easy to find the resonance The
vertical strands carry the applied current and the capacitance square
holes in between is a electrostatic field around which the
displacement current flows. What you have, basically, is a full wave
dipole folded very closely upon itself to form a closed circuit with a
low impedance. This is basically a transmission line if the ends are
open. The cross jumpers take the place of dielectric spacers that are
present on a open transmission line so that they may enclose an
electrostatic field created by the displacement current. The vertical
strands are really in series ,so you have effectively placed a long
length of wire into a small volume which you may shape into any form.
To play with this further, place it above a conductive sheet and note
the changes. Then try pinning it together into a cylinder and note the
changes.
Have fun playing with it.
Looking at the physics side of things. When a particle is generated by
the Sun it goes to the border and even tho it is extremely small it
breaks the border by applying a straight force vector together with a
circular vector. This same combination repeats itself when current is
applied to a radiator which also produces a circular current. These
same vectors are later repeated with gravity in combination with
rotation all of which are per laws of Newton. The particles that
escape from the sun sheath conductive materials on Earth. This is
explained by making the Gaussian field for statics a dynamic one so
that it becomes the same as Maxwells laws. The combination of fields
from the applied current when intersecting the electrostatic field
dislodges particles by elevation with spin while accellerating to the
maximum speed which is that of light so the particle can take on a
straight line trajectory with spin where the Gravity vector is
cancelled.
Elermentry explanation of the weak force in the Standard model
(Patents applied for)
Art


Since you're lecturing on physics, as I said before, you should post this to
sci.physics and sci.physics.research and see what they think.

Chris

christofire wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...
This week end is going to be wet and cold, so I thought I would give
you a radiator to play with if you are willing to make something for
yourself.
Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house. Soak this piece of mesh in some watered down
muriatic acid (approx $5 a bottle at a hardware store This is to
remove the insulating coating so it becomes conductive. Now this mesh
is woven so it helps to compress the strands together by tapping with
a hammer. Connect a MFJ259B to the base corners and scan to see where
the resonant frequency is.
I used a 8" x5" piece of mesh and it was resonant from about 110 to
140
MHZ so it is quite broad banded and easy to find the resonance The
vertical strands carry the applied current and the capacitance square
holes in between is a electrostatic field around which the
displacement current flows. What you have, basically, is a full wave
dipole folded very closely upon itself to form a closed circuit with a
low impedance. This is basically a transmission line if the ends are
open. The cross jumpers take the place of dielectric spacers that are
present on a open transmission line so that they may enclose an
electrostatic field created by the displacement current. The vertical
strands are really in series ,so you have effectively placed a long
length of wire into a small volume which you may shape into any form.
To play with this further, place it above a conductive sheet and note
the changes. Then try pinning it together into a cylinder and note the
changes.
Have fun playing with it.
Looking at the physics side of things. When a particle is generated by
the Sun it goes to the border and even tho it is extremely small it
breaks the border by applying a straight force vector together with a
circular vector. This same combination repeats itself when current is
applied to a radiator which also produces a circular current. These
same vectors are later repeated with gravity in combination with
rotation all of which are per laws of Newton. The particles that
escape from the sun sheath conductive materials on Earth. This is
explained by making the Gaussian field for statics a dynamic one so
that it becomes the same as Maxwells laws. The combination of fields
from the applied current when intersecting the electrostatic field
dislodges particles by elevation with spin while accellerating to the
maximum speed which is that of light so the particle can take on a
straight line trajectory with spin where the Gravity vector is
cancelled.
Elermentry explanation of the weak force in the Standard model
(Patents applied for)
Art


Since you're lecturing on physics, as I said before, you should post this to
sci.physics and sci.physics.research and see what they think.

Chris



What I'd like to know is how the vertical and horizontal strands know
which role they are supposed to play? And if I rotate the mesh by 90
degrees but still keep the feed the same, why don't those roles change?

What if the whole thing is parallel to the ground? It should stop
working completely. Hell, it could even explode for all we know. The
poor strands wouldn't know what to do and the energy would build up
until there was too much and - BOOOOOM!!!

And what happens if this antenna is in space? Does it stop working? Do
the bits remember what orientation they used to be in when they were on
earth?

Or is this all just some fantasy dreamed up by someone who needs serious
medication?

Most likely the latter.

tom
K0TAR

On Oct 1, 7:55*pm, "christofire" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...



This week end is going to be wet and cold, so I thought I would give
you a radiator to play with if you are willing to make something for
yourself.
Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house. Soak this piece of mesh in some watered down
muriatic acid (approx $5 a bottle at a hardware store This is to
remove the insulating coating so it becomes conductive. Now this mesh
is woven so it helps to compress the strands together by tapping with
a hammer. Connect a MFJ259B to the base corners and scan to see where
the resonant frequency is.
I used a 8" x5" piece of mesh and it was resonant from about 110 to
140
MHZ so it is quite broad banded and easy to find the resonance The
vertical strands carry the applied current and the capacitance square
holes in between is a electrostatic field around which the
displacement current flows. What you have, basically, is a *full wave
dipole folded very closely upon itself to form a closed circuit with a
low impedance. This is basically a transmission line if the ends are
open. The cross jumpers take the place of *dielectric spacers that are
present on a open transmission line so that they may enclose an
electrostatic field created by the displacement current. The vertical
strands are really in series ,so you have effectively placed a long
length of wire into a small volume which you may shape into any form.
To play with this further, place it above a conductive sheet and note
the changes. Then try pinning it together into a cylinder and note the
changes.
Have fun playing with it.
Looking at the physics side of things. When a particle is generated by
the Sun it goes to the border and even tho it is extremely small it
breaks the border by applying a straight force vector together with a
circular vector. This same combination repeats itself when current is
applied to a radiator which also produces a circular current. These
same vectors are later repeated with gravity in combination with
rotation all of which are per laws of Newton. The particles that
escape from the sun sheath conductive materials on Earth. This is
explained by making the Gaussian field for statics a dynamic one so
that it becomes the same as Maxwells laws. The combination of fields
from the applied current when intersecting the electrostatic field
dislodges particles by elevation with spin while accellerating to the
maximum speed which is that of light so the particle can take on a
straight line trajectory with spin where the Gravity vector is
cancelled.
Elermentry explanation of the weak force in the Standard model
(Patents applied for)
Art

Since you're lecturing on physics, as I said before, you should post this to
sci.physics and sci.physics.research and see what they think.

Chris

Why? Hams will deny it without trying. Physics! all will deny it as it
comes from an engineer.
Somewhere in between some one will try it. Then curiousity will take
over and the question will be asked " Why is this" And then the
naysayers will answer" you didn't measure it correctly or the MFJ 259B
was not intended for that" Then a person with a small garden will get
a bigger piece to try it out on Top Band. "You have to prove it" say
the naysayers
together with " you are an engineer so you can know nothing of
physics" "Well I just followed Einstein" I said " He was convinced
that the secret of the weak force lies with radiation" So you are
comparing yourself with Einstein?" said the naysayers. So I said that
"Gauss showed the way with the static field to which I made dynamic
and added radiators
so that it became the same as Maxwells law since I maintained
equilibrium!"
":You can't do that" said the naysayers " that is not in any of the
physics books" ":I know "
I said " be patient ": What you seek you will find" . Now who is the
next person to argue with Einstein and his prediction? Newton stated
that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The big bang
started from inside a arbitrary boundary. Equilibrium was broken when
the smallest of particles from the Sun ventured towards the boundary.
When this happened that little of little particle became an opposing
force which was off centre from the opposite force such that it also
applied a torque vector (spin). That chain of force vectors end with
the combination of gravity with the rotation vector of Earth, where
the chain of events passed along the phenomina of radiation as
predicted by Einstein. No. I am certainly not going to argue with
Einstein. PS try it for yourself with the many computer programs so
you can argue that the programs are wrong where only the vendor is
left to argue against. Now you have a bigger question, How does a
particle propagate while neutralizing gravity?. Ponder on that for a
while. Now for the biggy Will Cern change there minds when they read
this? No we are going to find the Higgs field that nobody has found
even if we have to blow up the tunnel. We want five forces to make up
the Standard Model so we can go down in history!
Cheers and beers
Art
Cheers
Art

On Oct 1, 7:55*pm, "christofire" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...



This week end is going to be wet and cold, so I thought I would give
you a radiator to play with if you are willing to make something for
yourself.
Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house. Soak this piece of mesh in some watered down
muriatic acid (approx $5 a bottle at a hardware store This is to
remove the insulating coating so it becomes conductive. Now this mesh
is woven so it helps to compress the strands together by tapping with
a hammer. Connect a MFJ259B to the base corners and scan to see where
the resonant frequency is.
I used a 8" x5" piece of mesh and it was resonant from about 110 to
140
MHZ so it is quite broad banded and easy to find the resonance The
vertical strands carry the applied current and the capacitance square
holes in between is a electrostatic field around which the
displacement current flows. What you have, basically, is a *full wave
dipole folded very closely upon itself to form a closed circuit with a
low impedance. This is basically a transmission line if the ends are
open. The cross jumpers take the place of *dielectric spacers that are
present on a open transmission line so that they may enclose an
electrostatic field created by the displacement current. The vertical
strands are really in series ,so you have effectively placed a long
length of wire into a small volume which you may shape into any form.
To play with this further, place it above a conductive sheet and note
the changes. Then try pinning it together into a cylinder and note the
changes.
Have fun playing with it.
Looking at the physics side of things. When a particle is generated by
the Sun it goes to the border and even tho it is extremely small it
breaks the border by applying a straight force vector together with a
circular vector. This same combination repeats itself when current is
applied to a radiator which also produces a circular current. These
same vectors are later repeated with gravity in combination with
rotation all of which are per laws of Newton. The particles that
escape from the sun sheath conductive materials on Earth. This is
explained by making the Gaussian field for statics a dynamic one so
that it becomes the same as Maxwells laws. The combination of fields
from the applied current when intersecting the electrostatic field
dislodges particles by elevation with spin while accellerating to the
maximum speed which is that of light so the particle can take on a
straight line trajectory with spin where the Gravity vector is
cancelled.
Elermentry explanation of the weak force in the Standard model
(Patents applied for)
Art

Since you're lecturing on physics, as I said before, you should post this to
sci.physics and sci.physics.research and see what they think.

Chris
Chris
I took your advice and sent an E mail to sci.physics research
explaining what I have found
and asking for comment. I am not a member of that group so it may well
not be picked up.
Tomorrow I will add to my home page.... Unwin Antennas...... copies of
both patent requests where the last one contains graphs of results of
mesh style radiators with other things. As time passes I will add my
other antenna patent requests from the past just for the hell of it.
Initial patent request costs were $515 each which is a lot less than
the UK and I believe it is about $200 for maintenance fees on each of
them due in about two years from now. I recommend that those with
EZNEC model the helical antenna shown as I am sure they will find it
of interest.
Regards
Art

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...

Chris
I took your advice and sent an E mail to sci.physics research
explaining what I have found
and asking for comment. I am not a member of that group so it may well
not be picked up.
-snip-
Regards
Art


* Unfortunately I can't see your message when I look at
sci.physics.research, but I believe it's a moderated group so it may not
have made its way over the moderator's desk yet, as it were. Can you see
your message there? ... and, if so, what title did you give it?

Chris

On Oct 4, 5:52*am, "christofire" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...

Chris
I took your advice and sent an E mail to sci.physics research
explaining what I have found
and asking for comment. I am not a member of that group so it may well
not be picked up.
-snip-
Regards
Art

* Unfortunately I can't see your message when I look at
sci.physics.research, but I believe it's a moderated group so it may not
have made its way over the moderator's desk yet, as it were. *Can you see
your message there? ... and, if so, what title did you give it?

Chris

re Weak force
Yes, it goes directly to the moderator so I imagine that it will take
time. The question being that 2 vectors can be traced from the big
bang to the boundary of earth. If it is not the weak force then where
does it fit in with GUT? This also was predicted by Einstein with
respect to radiation so if this is not it we have more searching to
do. We will have to wait and see what the technical level is and it
may well be as low as this group! Time will tell.

"Art Unwin" wrote in message
...
On Oct 4, 5:52 am, "christofire" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...

Chris
I took your advice and sent an E mail to sci.physics research
explaining what I have found
and asking for comment. I am not a member of that group so it may well
not be picked up.
-snip-
Regards
Art

* Unfortunately I can't see your message when I look at
sci.physics.research, but I believe it's a moderated group so it may not
have made its way over the moderator's desk yet, as it were. Can you see
your message there? ... and, if so, what title did you give it?

Chris

re Weak force
Yes, it goes directly to the moderator so I imagine that it will take
time. The question being that 2 vectors can be traced from the big
bang to the boundary of earth. If it is not the weak force then where
does it fit in with GUT? This also was predicted by Einstein with
respect to radiation so if this is not it we have more searching to
do. We will have to wait and see what the technical level is and it
may well be as low as this group! Time will tell.


* I don't think the 'technical level' of this group is low - some of the
posts are very well informed - but a group devoted to physics research must
be a more appropriate forum for airing thoughts about fundamental physics
and the Universe, thoughts that go way beyond amateur radio. I look forward
to seeing your posting there and, if you've read much of what appears there,
I think you'll find the 'technical level' there is very high.

Chris

Art Unwin wrote:

Elermentry explanation of the weak force in the Standard model
(Patents applied for)


Heeees baaaack. For his next act, he is developing a spellchecker.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:19:38 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

This week end is going to be wet and cold, so I thought I would give
you a radiator to play with if you are willing to make something for
yourself.
Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house. Soak this piece of mesh in some watered down
muriatic acid (approx $5 a bottle at a hardware store This is to
remove the insulating coating so it becomes conductive. Now this mesh
is woven so it helps to compress the strands together by tapping with
a hammer. Connect a MFJ259B to the base corners and scan to see where
the resonant frequency is.
I used a 8" x5" piece of mesh and it was resonant from about 110 to
140
MHZ so it is quite broad banded and easy to find the resonance The
vertical strands carry the applied current and the capacitance square
holes in between is a electrostatic field around which the
displacement current flows. ....................

What a nonsense.

Everything resonates somewhere,
just give it n * lamda/4 dimensions.


A piece of wood would do it, when it rains.

w.