Art Unwin wrote:
On Oct 2, 6:33 pm, buzz wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Znippd shtuff
Art
Since all the strands are connected together, the entire things just
looks like one flat piece of metal. Snake oil spin.

And what is the MFJ259B measuring when it denotes a resonant frequency?

And I DO own a 259B, so let's go toe to toe on the measurements bright boy.

tom
K0TAR

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:05:13 -0500, tom wrote:

Art Unwin wrote:
On Oct 2, 6:33 pm, buzz wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Znippd shtuff
Art
Since all the strands are connected together, the entire things just
looks like one flat piece of metal. Snake oil spin.

And what is the MFJ259B measuring when it denotes a resonant frequency?

And I DO own a 259B, so let's go toe to toe on the measurements bright boy.

Then you should be able to duplicate Art's results without knowing the
parameters of Art's test. Sez who? Well Art of course! HI

I own a MFJ-259B and find it to be an useful tool. The device's OOB
accuracy was found to be lacking but after re-calibration all was FB.
Perhaps instrumentation errors are helping to 'confirm' Art's
contradictory theories and hazy explanations.

Registered User wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:05:13 -0500, tom wrote:

Art Unwin wrote:
On Oct 2, 6:33 pm, buzz wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Znippd shtuff
Art
Since all the strands are connected together, the entire things just
looks like one flat piece of metal. Snake oil spin.
And what is the MFJ259B measuring when it denotes a resonant frequency?
And I DO own a 259B, so let's go toe to toe on the measurements bright boy.

Then you should be able to duplicate Art's results without knowing the
parameters of Art's test. Sez who? Well Art of course! HI

I own a MFJ-259B and find it to be an useful tool. The device's OOB
accuracy was found to be lacking but after re-calibration all was FB.
Perhaps instrumentation errors are helping to 'confirm' Art's
contradictory theories and hazy explanations.

Or it could be he's just a loony. Ok, he _is_ just a loony.

73
tom
K0TAR

"Art Unwin" wrote
...

Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house.

I used a 8" x5" piece of mesh and it was resonant from about 110 to
140

Could you tell us the details of the mesh (the wire diameter and the
distance between them).
S*
MHZ so it is quite broad banded and easy to find the resonance The
vertical strands carry the applied current and the capacitance square
holes in between is a electrostatic field around which the
displacement current flows. What you have, basically, is a full wave
dipole folded very closely upon itself to form a closed circuit with a
low impedance. This is basically a transmission line if the ends are
open. The cross jumpers take the place of dielectric spacers that are
present on a open transmission line so that they may enclose an
electrostatic field created by the displacement current. The vertical
strands are really in series ,so you have effectively placed a long
length of wire into a small volume which you may shape into any form.
To play with this further, place it above a conductive sheet and note
the changes. Then try pinning it together into a cylinder and note the
changes.
Have fun playing with it.
Looking at the physics side of things. When a particle is generated by
the Sun it goes to the border and even tho it is extremely small it
breaks the border by applying a straight force vector together with a
circular vector. This same combination repeats itself when current is
applied to a radiator which also produces a circular current. These
same vectors are later repeated with gravity in combination with
rotation all of which are per laws of Newton. The particles that
escape from the sun sheath conductive materials on Earth. This is
explained by making the Gaussian field for statics a dynamic one so
that it becomes the same as Maxwells laws. The combination of fields
from the applied current when intersecting the electrostatic field
dislodges particles by elevation with spin while accellerating to the
maximum speed which is that of light so the particle can take on a
straight line trajectory with spin where the Gravity vector is
cancelled.
Elermentry explanation of the weak force in the Standard model
(Patents applied for)
Art

Art

On Oct 1, 8:19*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
This week end is going to be wet and cold, so I thought I would give
you a radiator to play with if you are willing to make something for
yourself.
Get yourself a piece of aluminum mesh used for window insect stopping
entering your house. Soak this piece of mesh in some watered down
muriatic acid (approx $5 a bottle at a hardware store This is to
remove the insulating coating so it becomes conductive. Now this mesh
is woven so it helps to compress the strands together by tapping with
a hammer. Connect a MFJ259B to the base corners and scan to see where
the resonant frequency is.

Who is the lunatic? Art or the one who argues with him?