thanks for the input good fellows!
I'm obviously just playing around here.
I have looked round on the net and it's a cobweb antenna I was headed for.
I had the idea explained to me, but until I saw it, I had NO IDEA!
now it a tad clearer.

http://www.g3tpw.co.uk/

here is the website I found. clear as mud now... thanks again.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:55:59 +0100,
wrote:

thanks for the input good fellows!
I'm obviously just playing around here.
I have looked round on the net and it's a cobweb antenna I was headed for.
I had the idea explained to me, but until I saw it, I had NO IDEA!
now it a tad clearer.

http://www.g3tpw.co.uk/

here is the website I found. clear as mud now... thanks again.

First, the design you are looking is NOT a loop (nor loops).

The design you are looking is NOT a beam.

The design you are looking is NOT directional.

Aside from that, it has been around for a while, and satisfies many.
You may be one who would be happy with it, but that is obscure until
you tell us what you want to achieve without trying to shoe-horn in
presumed solutions.

The simple explanation for the design you have linked to is that it is
a "Fan Dipole." The fan is found in the common feed point (at the
left) supporting paired wires for each band spreading (fanning) out.
What makes it unusual is that it is wrapped into a box-like footprint
(without the ends meeting, look closely at the photo). The wrapping
also changes the usual dipole radiation characteristic from dipolar
(radiating in two major lobes) to nonpolar (radiating in all
directions).

Do you have a call sign?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Do you have a call sign?

no, no call sign, I have just been given a shortwave radio
Realistic DX-300 Shortwave Radio Receiver.
I was told I could just hang a good length of wire out in the tree and it
will work.
It does but thought I would have a bit of a go at improving things.
I read a lot on the ham radio news groups, but you can get bitten when you
ask a question,
so thought would try here. I quite like listening to ham types, and the
techno talk, not too keen on the 5/9 next please bust busy contacts, but
when people have real conversations about making stuff its good listening.
.. thanks anyhow.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:01:02 +0100,
wrote:

I was told I could just hang a good length of wire out in the tree and it
will work.
It does but thought I would have a bit of a go at improving things.

A good connection to ground, and a tuner will do a lot with your
established antenna.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC